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1. I have not heard of any plans to change the law. If they do, they do and there will not be much you can do about it. Can you move earlier than October? It is possible that you have to stay longer than 25 extra days because once you have been a PR for more than 5 years, your earliest days in Canada start to move outside the 5 year window. You can only count days in the past 5 years when you apply to renew. Days more than 5 years ago do not count.

2. I think it would happen individually. It is not uncommon for a family to live in Canada while the husband works overseas.

3. If they report him on entry, he would get the chance to appeal but if he is still working outside Canada and has left again by the time they call him for interview, he will have little chance to succeed. Do not sponsor him back until you meet the residency requirements yourself.

4. They look for the past 4 years so you must have 1095 days in Canada + when you apply for citizenship counting only in the past 4 years at the time you apply. If you apply in October 2015, they will look at October 2011 to October 2015.
 

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Thanks Leon,

You are right I should look for Sep12 flight. So in case I will fly at the end Sep12, I will be safe and will legally reside in Canada, Am I right? Can I travel across the Canada, will these days be counted in 730 days or I shoud be careful with such travels as well. Please advise.

I am counting again and again my days in order to fill these 730 days. So within 5 years I was there 4 month 23 days, now remaining 19 month 7 days. From Oct12 till May14 I am gaining remaing 19 month and 7 days, plus extra 5 days. If I land at the end of Sep12 I will have extra more 3 days. Let me know what do you think?

Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
 

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Sounds good. You can travel inside Canada as much as you want. Try to keep proof of your staying in Canada, bank records, phone bills, boarding cards from your flights etc. Best if you have a steady job or studies.
 

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Thanks Leon,

One more issue, if I will travel trough US border by car to buy food staff from Vancouver, will they stamp my possport? I will be back same day, so will it be risky for me? Please advise.
 

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Dear Leon,

I am just reviewing posts of other people, and see that even with 730 days their cases are sent to Local offices for further review. I have next questions and appreciate if you will advise me.

1. First time I landed in 2009 to apply for PR for 4 or 5 days and left back that was 29 Apr12, should me count those 4 days in time of renewal of PR, please note that PR was issued by 14 May09, should me count days from first landing date or from PR issuance date.

2. Second I landed in 2010 on 29 Jun10 and left on 20 Nov10, will landing and deprture dates will be counted as present day in Canada?

Just want to be sure that I can arrive more than 730 days. Thanks in advance.
 

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Immigration may decide to pick applications for special review if they believe that the person may not meet the residency requirements. This is more likely to happen if you apply with exactly 730 days, if some of your info does not match info that immigration has about your travels or if you have have a lot of travels and no steady full time job in Canada or other proof of having stayed for 730 days. However, as long as you can prove 730 days within the past 5 years at the time you applied to renew, they can not refuse.

1. Because you are not able to meet the residency requirements, you can not apply to renew your PR card as soon as it expires. You said you are missing 25 days. You have to stay longer before you can apply. However, every day you stay, another day from your first landing moves outside the 5 year window so the 4 days from your first landing can not be used.

2. You will be able to use the days from your 2nd trip to Canada in 2010. Counting both travel days as you do for PR, you can count 145 days for that stay. You need 585 more days to apply. You will reach 730 days on May 20th 2014. You can give it a couple of more weeks or one month extra before you apply just to make it a little bit less likely that they will pull your application out for a residency questionnaire. Also try to include some documentation to prove your 145 day stay in 2010 as well as the date you arrived in 2012.
 

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Hi Leon,

Thanks for your explanation, as per your advise earlier I changed my ticket in order to meet residency requirements in my first 5 year period. So as of today I have next:

1. First landing - 4 days ( I have to check dates, but remember that I stayed in hotel less than 5 days).
2. Second landing - 145 days. ( I am counting landing date, but not departure date, is it right?)-29 Jun10-20Nov2010.
3. Third landing (as per airticket landing should be 30Sep12) till 12May14 will be 588 days.
4. Total days should be spent in canada for my first 5 year period from the date of landing till PR expiration date 12 May14 is 737.

Is it right? So that means we should count days from the date of landing and complete by last date mentioned on PR? Please affirm. Thanks again.
 

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2817 said:
Hi Leon,

Thanks for your explanation, as per your advise earlier I changed my ticket in order to meet residency requirements in my first 5 year period. So as of today I have next:

1. First landing - 4 days ( I have to check dates, but remember that I stayed in hotel less than 5 days).
2. Second landing - 145 days. ( I am counting landing date, but not departure date, is it right?)-29 Jun10-20Nov2010.
3. Third landing (as per airticket landing should be 30Sep12) till 12May14 will be 588 days.
4. Total days should be spent in canada for my first 5 year period from the date of landing till PR expiration date 12 May14 is 737.

Is it right? So that means we should count days from the date of landing and complete by last date mentioned on PR? Please affirm. Thanks again.

1. Like I said before, you can not count the initial 4 days unless they are still within the window of the previous 5 years when you apply. If you landed in Canada say April 24th 2009 and left on April 29, they would give you 5 days for that but then you must apply to renew on April 24th 2014 if you want to count those 5 days. However, you will not have stayed in Canada long enough if you apply then. However, if you apply later, these days will move outside the 5 year window.

2. Both travel dates count. In June, they count 2 days, 29th and 30th. July = 31, Aug = 31, Sept = 30, Oct = 31, Nov = 20. That equals 145 days.

3. If you want to apply on May 12th 2014, you will have enough days, even without counting your days from your first landing. You will have 734 days total. I think it is still a better idea to wait a couple of more weeks so you are not applying with exactly the limit.

4. Your date of landing to expiry of PR card is not a 5 year period. It is more than 5 years. You really should meet the requirements both for your first 5 years as a PR, counting from landing date to landing date anniversary as well as any other rolling 5 year period, that is for example from expiry date of your PR card counting backwards 5 years.

What is most important anyway is that you do not apply to renew unless and until you have 730 days or more in Canada in the 5 year period immediately prior to your renewal application.
 

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Hi Leon,

I was really confused with my first landing date, so now it is clear for me. Thanks alot.
 
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Hi, I had lived in Canada on student visa for 10 months in the past (my study visa was issued for total time period for 27 months Multi-entry, 27 months stamp), and during that time-period I finished one semester completely of master's degree, and left next semester in-between and returned to India due to family problems. I did not even told to university and to any Canadian visa authorities. Later on university sent me email to apply for withdrawal from Master degree as I did not wrote / appeared in any exams in second semester and returned to India, and never returned back. I just returned back without informing university and Canadian embassy. I just quit that master's degree in-between.

Now I have few questions, please reply to each questions and share your views and please advise me.
1. Will they bar or ban me for any further entry to Canada in future on any other visa (temporary visa, permanent resident immigration application) ?
2. If someone left Master's degree in-between and return to India / home country without informing anyone, does that mean he or she had broken immigration laws, rules, or study permit rules ? In such condition, If he qualify, and want to apply for immigration in future will they reject permanent residence application on the basis that He or she had not finished Master's degree and returned to their home country / country of origin.
I had not stayed overtime, I just left Canada after 10 months. I did not get any letter from Immigration authorities regarding anything till date. I did not commit any crime, nor broken any law in Canada while during 10 months stay as student visa.
3. During that time, when I applied for student visa application, I mentioned I do not have any relatives in Canada, but now a time no such column is mentioned in student visa application. So, should I show relative this time during Canadian federal fast track immigration this time, as I can get 5 points towards blood-relative.
Please advise and guide me. I am also consulting immigration lawyer, but your suggestions are also value-able guys.
Thanks.
 

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Dear Leon and Others,

I would like to share with my landing expierence, I landed early morning at YVR airport, passed to Custom border for stamping my passport. First Custom officer asked me about father's permission to travel with baby, since I did not have I presented her legal document which was done in 2010. Then she was asking how long we were absent, after that she had short conversation with an other custom officer concerning PR requirements. Then she just handed over mine and baby passport and said that I do not need to meet with immigration officer and can pass. I think that in case If she would be suspiciose she would send me to immigration department, since I had still remaining days to meet my residency requirements I just passed.

Leon, after sometimes I found that she did not stamp my baby passport, i do not know what can be the reason? Do you have any idea?

So now I am planing to stay in BC untill I will not meet final 730 days.

Thanks Leon and others for everything.
 

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2817 said:
Leon, after sometimes I found that she did not stamp my baby passport, i do not know what can be the reason? Do you have any idea?

So now I am planing to stay in BC untill I will not meet final 730 days.
I am happy to hear that you did not have any problems on entry. You should now stay in Canada at least until you have enough days to renew your PR card. That would be at least 730 days in the past 5 years before you want to apply to renew.

The reason they did not stamp your baby's passport is because she is Canadian. She is coming home when she comes to Canada and there is no limit how long she can stay. Therefore they have no reason to register in her passport when she arrived.
 

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2817 said:
Dear Leon and Others,

I would like to share with my landing expierence, I landed early morning at YVR airport, passed to Custom border for stamping my passport. First Custom officer asked me about father's permission to travel with baby, since I did not have I presented her legal document which was done in 2010. Then she was asking how long we were absent, after that she had short conversation with an other custom officer concerning PR requirements. Then she just handed over mine and baby passport and said that I do not need to meet with immigration officer and can pass. I think that in case If she would be suspiciose she would send me to immigration department, since I had still remaining days to meet my residency requirements I just passed.

Leon, after sometimes I found that she did not stamp my baby passport, i do not know what can be the reason? Do you have any idea?
Hi 2817,
She didn't stamp your baby's passport but she just scanned it and that enters in the system what date she enter Canada like when they swipe the PR card. I have a question for your "what kind of legal documents u showed to officer when she asked you about permission of the baby's father to travel with you"? I'm travelling with my kid soon and would like to have some ideas about that if possible.

Thanks LEON as usual and congrats again 2718.
 

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Dear Leon,

Thank you again for your advises. They really help people to make right decision.

Dear Yazmost,

They were asking legal authorization from one of the parents to carry baby in my case it has to be from father, since in 2010 nobody asked me about this document, I was just keeping it with me notorised copy. It is as ussually, you should go to notary with you your couple and they will arange you with copy of passport and notary stamps. Just note two parents should be presented in notary office. If both of you will accompany baby, no need anything.

I wish you good luck and have safe trip . Bye.