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My brother-in-law is an Ass$#%#@#. Wants to report my marriage as fake! Help!

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Hi everyone, So if anyone has every read my other post recently I am in the middle of a Sponsorship application with My canadian Husband. We have been together since 2010 but just got married in 2012. And he applied inland at the Vegreville office to sponsor me just a month after getting married.

We love each other so much and the relationship is well known to all our family and friends even my family who is still in my home country.
However, in the beginning of 2011 my sister in law and brother in law, (I guess they were not then yet but son enough) started showing sign that they hate me. It started by her sending my hubby an email saying that he should be careful with me, blah blah blah, even me getting a better cellphone than my hubby ( I was due for an upgrade) was a big deal to them suddenly. His parents gave as their old vehicle so I can use it cause my work was far from the location of our new house. And they were jealous about that too. In the beginning my husband was trying to defend her sister because of course they are family. But eventually everything changed when they started to give us offensive emails, with threats and bad words such as they would get me deported etc. At this time I was working full time as a supervisor, which would eventually entitle me to apply for my own PR, But you know life it give you more challenges, my hubby lost his job and there was a point we used up our saving and we had to ask help from his parents. At this time his sister and brother in law, started attacking us again especially me saying that I was using their parents for money etc. But in reality I give all the penny I make into the relationship to make ends meet. But I guess they do not understand that and just see that we ask money. btw we OWED this money to his parents and it was not given FREE. Eventually life got better and my hubby got a job but in a different city. and we tried living separately for quite a bit and he was only home during the weekends, whichc sucks eventually we decided to move there BUT the catch was i would have to give up my skilled worker job to move with him. He knew that I was sacrificing a lot so he finally decided to propose to me and asked me to marry him. so even though I lost the skilled worker job He can still sponsor me. Which showed me how much he cared about me. So anyways on top of all this he and his sister never talks anymore and still has conflict, there was a time that I actually met up with her sister before Christmas, just for the holiday spirit to maybe fix some stuff up. I thought it was gonna be better from then But when my brother-in-law contacts us, he always just to flips us and say threats to us. So my hubby finally said he will not deal with that anymore and will never talk to my sister in law until he gets rid of the guy, (which might not be happening soon she got pregnant) anyways his last threat made me really upset he said this is war and he will tell the immigration officers that our marriage was fake and that I gave him money to marry me and sponsor me. My hubby has been approved to sponsor and I am getting my medicals done next week, so the application is far from over.

Do you think my brother-in-law can actually do that? and what will immigration do about it?

I know I have people I have that can testify for us and our relationship is true and he will be lying, but it just makes me upset that my application might be delayed because of this monster of a person. What do I do? :(
 

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Re: My brother-in-law is an Ass$#%# @ #. Wants to report my marriage as fake! Help!

Keep all his threatening emails. If he ever try to do fake declaration, sue him for harassment and fake declaration, he will be more in trouble then you will be.

Now relax and don't reply to him, or go to a lawer and send him an official letter asking him to stop his threats and harassment, or you will sue him. This will really calm him down.

Also keep all your proof of realtaionship documents, and also the gift your inlaws gave you and all will be fine :)

Good luck
 

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Re: My brother-in-law is an Ass$#%# @ #. Wants to report my marriage as fake! Help!

good advice pardesifr, but dont forget that nothing can hurt your application, if the officers see any red flags like people calling or email that your relationship is fake, they will call you for an interview and at that interview you will plead your case, so like parde said keep all records of their threats and go to lawyer and also keep all and every record it might work to your benifit, but dont threat about them.
 

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Re: My brother-in-law is an Ass$#%# @ #. Wants to report my marriage as fake! Help!

Assuming you have documentation to corroborate your story (e.g., e-mails) then even if they were to choose to investigate, you'd be able to rebut their arguments. Further, they should be aware that threatening and intimidation like this is itself a criminal offence.

Note: even if they were to file a complaint with CIC, it would require that CIC consider it credible and then they would investigate. They are not going to "deport" you and they are not going to refuse your application on something like this - these are known as "poison pen" letters and I've read court cases about them. They are generally considered of dubious value because most of the time they are actually vendettas against someone.

My best advice is to keep your own evidence and ignore them. In the unlikely event they do something AND CIC follows up on it, then you can respond by showing the long-term pattern of harassment and intimidation. This is likely all it will take for CIC to set their issues aside and decide your application.

Good luck!
 

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Re: My brother-in-law is an Ass$#%# @ #. Wants to report my marriage as fake! Help!

unfortunately, this is not uncommon. I dont think it will be a problem. However, best to keep all threatening letters etc.

Believe me, it wouldnt be the first time CIC has seen it and it wont be the last time.
 

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Re: My brother-in-law is an Ass$#%# @ #. Wants to report my marriage as fake! Help!

millslu said:
good advice pardesifr, but dont forget that nothing can hurt your application, if the officers see any red flags like people calling or email that your relationship is fake, they will call you for an interview and at that interview you will plead your case, so like parde said keep all records of their threats and go to lawyer and also keep all and every record it might work to your benifit, but dont threat about them.
pardesifr said:
Keep all his threatening emails. If he ever try to do fake declaration, sue him for harassment and fake declaration, he will be more in trouble then you will be.

Now relax and don't reply to him, or go to a lawer and send him an official letter asking him to stop his threats and harassment, or you will sue him. This will really calm him down.

Also keep all your proof of realtaionship documents, and also the gift your inlaws gave you and all will be fine :)

Good luck
computergeek said:
Assuming you have documentation to corroborate your story (e.g., e-mails) then even if they were to choose to investigate, you'd be able to rebut their arguments. Further, they should be aware that threatening and intimidation like this is itself a criminal offence.

Note: even if they were to file a complaint with CIC, it would require that CIC consider it credible and then they would investigate. They are not going to "deport" you and they are not going to refuse your application on something like this - these are known as "poison pen" letters and I've read court cases about them. They are generally considered of dubious value because most of the time they are actually vendettas against someone.

My best advice is to keep your own evidence and ignore them. In the unlikely event they do something AND CIC follows up on it, then you can respond by showing the long-term pattern of harassment and intimidation. This is likely all it will take for CIC to set their issues aside and decide your application.

Good luck!
Thanks everyone for wishes of luck greatly appreciated.
I have proof of emails from them and their texts saved in my phone. So I do have proof. btw we have blocked their numbers from calling or texting us. Cause we are sick of getting this bad stuff from them especially from him.
My husband's aunt advised us to go to the police or a lawyer and get a restraining order against them for harassment and such. Does anyone know if by doing this, It maybe a negative for our application. because they do a background check and police check to everyone. If not I am not hesitating to do legal action against them.
 

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Re: My brother-in-law is an Ass$#%# @ #. Wants to report my marriage as fake! Help!

gsize said:
unfortunately, this is not uncommon. I dont think it will be a problem. However, best to keep all threatening letters etc.

Believe me, it wouldnt be the first time CIC has seen it and it wont be the last time.
Thanks Gsize. I hope he believes in karma, cause this will backfire on him.
 

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Re: My brother-in-law is an Ass$#%# @ #. Wants to report my marriage as fake! Help!

As I think more about your situation, sending a letter from your lawyer MIGHT be a good idea. I think you are wise to be pro active !
 

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Re: My brother-in-law is an Ass$#%# @ #. Wants to report my marriage as fake! Help!

I'm afraid of this happening to us also. I don't have any advice, but I wish you the best of luck. Stay strong.
 

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Re: My brother-in-law is an Ass$#%# @ #. Wants to report my marriage as fake! Help!

I think they get more letters like that then would seem normal. They don't even seem to have time to deal with opening our files let alone opening and reading letters from nutjobs. I bet they just throw those out if they don't have a file number attached.