my bf has been living in canada for 6 years illegally and we are having a baby

[screech339]

There was a person (yata520) who Apply last summer, I believe he was in the same situation, even longer than your bf. He got his PR with no problem & now living a happy life. As long you love each other just try for the best!! Good luck!!

Yes the person was out of status and was able to get PR. As Ponga mentioned, it doesn't affect the timeline of the PR because he/she was out of status. The issue is whether the bf was "working illegally" during this time. There has been cases of being deported despite PR application in process. There is a difference between "staying in Canada illegally" and "working in Canada illegally".

So as long as the bf didn't get caught "working illegally" then the PR process will move as usual.

Screech339

 

[Awesomeg]

Yes the person was out of status and was able to get PR. As Ponga mentioned, it doesn't affect the timeline of the PR because he/she was out of status. The issue is whether the bf was "working illegally" during this time. There has been cases of being deported despite PR application in process. There is a difference between "staying in Canada illegally" and "working in Canada illegally".

So as long as the bf didn't get caught "working illegally" then the PR process will move as usual.

Screech339

Every year around 1/2 a million persons cross the USA-Mexico border in unregulated way,
It is estimated that 20 million live in USA without permanent status (not regulated status),
In Canada the numbers are not as dramatic as those from USA, but there are many that live here
without regulated status, that is not a secret,
and as it was mentioned,
the forum has seen this case before and they succeeded in obtaining permanent residence when
sponsored by his/her spouse or common law partner. There is no reason to feel that
a person that has not regulated status in Canada is a criminal or similar.
Naturally, the process of obtaining permanent residence status will open a background check
and naturally, any person that is found inadmissible to Canada will not get the residence,
the rules are for everybody.

 

[canadianwoman]

Prelove, your inbox is full, so no one can send you new messages right now.

 

[canadianwoman]

To get married in Ontario the requirements are listed here: http://www.ontario.ca/government/get-married-ontario
Note both parties need two pieces of government-issued ID. So sponsoring him as your common-law partner is the way to go. As people have mentioned, other forum members have successfully applied even though they were out of status in Canada. You need proof you two have lived together for at least one year. The proof that your relationship is genuine should be easy for you, since you have had a long relationship and have a baby on the way.

 

[yata520]

There was a person (yata520) who Apply last summer, I believe he was in the same situation, even longer than your bf. He got his PR with no problem & now living a happy life. As long you love each other just try for the best!! Good luck!!

aye. Yata as your service. Someone say my name? what may i help you? 8)

 

[yata520]

Yes the person was out of status and was able to get PR. As Ponga mentioned, it doesn't affect the timeline of the PR because he/she was out of status. The issue is whether the bf was "working illegally" during this time. There has been cases of being deported despite PR application in process. There is a difference between "staying in Canada illegally" and "working in Canada illegally".

So as long as the bf didn't get caught "working illegally" then the PR process will move as usual.

Screech339

yes.once sent application he have to stop work. Coz onform it do clear say how you get your income or stay in Canada. If working under table is fine as long you filled up who .you work for. Where and time. Then will be safe. But once sent must stop work completed.
For me was my parents didn't know i was illegal stay for X years also i have some collection items(yugioh.naruto magic. ..etc) to sell so i have saving.

 

[bajashawn]

What if you are a Canadian born citizen, with 2 Canadian children and your wife has been here almost 3 years illegally ? What can I do? I never got residency because I lost my job and could not afford to get the residency for my wife.

 

[dominokitty]

I am confused as to why some members of this forum are so sympathetic towards those who have violated immigration law? To encourage others to lie to the border people, and stay in Canada illegally, then apply inland as yet another way to game the system? Am I missing something here??? To me this seems a clear cut case of a person violating the law, and people suggest that they should marry and apply inland to remain in Canada? Is that not the definition of a marriage of convenience? Why are people encouraging this??

Is there some legitimate reason that I am not seeing about why a person without legal status should be allowed to stay in Canada, when it is simple to apply for a visitor visa extension and they have continued to live in Canada with no respect for our laws whatsoever for 6 years, possibly working illegally? Is it really so difficult to follow the legal process that is laid out before us?

Am I the only one here who is angered beyond belief at this? It is people like this who ruin the immigration system for the rest of us who are just trying to close the gap in a legitimate, legal manner, and have to wait upwards of 2 years to do so. It is people like this who are keeping my family separated.

Prelove, I know that you are pregnant but are you absolutely certain beyond any kind of reasonable doubt that your boyfriend entered into your relationship for legitimate reasons? Objectively speaking he seems like just the type of person who would benefit from tricking a Canadian into a relationship with the sole goal of achieving PR status... I might be completely out of line here and I apologize if I've offended you I'm just concerned with the information you've shared with us...

 

[dominokitty]

Every year around 1/2 a million persons cross the USA-Mexico border in unregulated way,
It is estimated that 20 million live in USA without permanent status (not regulated status),
In Canada the numbers are not as dramatic as those from USA, but there are many that live here
without regulated status, that is not a secret,
and as it was mentioned,
the forum has seen this case before and they succeeded in obtaining permanent residence when
sponsored by his/her spouse or common law partner. There is no reason to feel that
a person that has not regulated status in Canada is a criminal or similar.
Naturally, the process of obtaining permanent residence status will open a background check
and naturally, any person that is found inadmissible to Canada will not get the residence,
the rules are for everybody.

I disagree. Perhaps I am just ignorant, and correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems to be fairly easy to maintain legal status in Canada. All you have to do is pay the minimal fee and apply for an extension on your visa. I have seen people who have extended a visitor visa by a year by simply stating that they wanted to explore a relationship with someone. It really is not that hard and to me, it seems like anyone who does not do so must have a reason for it, even if the reason is only that they have a complete and utter disregard for immigration law in Canada.

I feel like, if you can't respect our laws, you really should not be in our country in the first place. The whole point of immigrating to Canada is to integrate yourself into Canadian society as a working, law abiding citizen.

Sorry if I come across as a little harsh, but this situation has definitely rubbed me the wrong way.

 

[Christoph100]

I feel like, if you can't respect our laws, you really should not be in our country in the first place. The whole point of immigrating to Canada is to integrate yourself into Canadian society as a working, law abiding citizen.

Sorry if I come across as a little harsh, but this situation has definitely rubbed me the wrong way.

Well said and not really harsh just reality.
Like yourself my wife is on the other side of the world and we are following the proper procedures for her PR. She is from a non visa exempt country. It does irk me as well when an overstay can continue to stay here get married or through common law apply for PR. While I have to wait for the procedure to complete to have my wife here with me.

There is no excuse for over stay period.

Two options

1. Send those people back to their own country and apply for PR the proper and legal way like the rest of us.

2. Canada should start levying fines against over stays such as other countries do.
It would seem to be really be easy to catch them once the application for PR is submitted and with that 2 choices offered pay the overstay fines (chances are there was illegal employment for long overstays) with the ability to stay and continue the application or be forced to leave if the fines are not paid

Now that may seem harsh or even mean to those involved in that sort of thing but the simple matter is you did not follow our Canadian laws.

Why should you get special treatment and be able to stay with out consequences.

 

[Mariac819]

I have visitor status in Canada and I am overwhelmed with not having an Ontario Drivers License, or SIN or Healthcare etc... I can't imagine how your boyfriend must feel being here 6 years illegally. Honestly, coming from a family of immigrants in the USA. That is NO WAY to live. You have options and you should try to legalize his status.

Like others said before you can apply as common law inland. I am not TOO familiar with the process but I believe (someone please correct me if I am wrong) after the initial approval he can get an temporary status? Or something down that line? ... I am not 100% familiar with inland. I hope someone can help Good LUck!

 

[ckwilson93]

I'm a husband being sponsored from the states, and I'm with DOMINOKITTY on this. I sympathize with PRELOVE about being pregnant, it's a hell of a situation to be in, but my wife, WHO HAS WORKED HER ASS OFF to keep me here, had to spend our last $150 dollars at the time my visitor permit was about to expire just to keep me here. We were broke, and we've been in tough financial settings because it's much tougher for her to get a job that can support both of us without going to school or getting a trade, whereas I can get $25+ plus jobs with NO EDUCATION. And I'm not allowed to DO ANYTHING!

I've even had people give me sh*t about me not working or finding something under the table, and it made my blood boil because I'm a hard worker, and this whole thing forces the out-of-work spouse into a very deep hole, where no one really gets what it's like when you are NOT ALLOWED TO WORK, instead some think you're CHOOSING the lifestyle you're pushed into with inland sponsorship. People actually tried to GUILT me into working illegally. I'm naturally paranoid, and fearful I would be discovered and deported. Threads like this, like DOMINOKITTY said, make me red hot.

If you're out of status, you apply for an extension. Unless you've *censored word*ed up big time and aren't eligible for one, that's the way it works, and besides, do you really wanna be THAT PERSON who disrespects not only Canada but the members of this forum who, like DOMINOKITTY said, have gone through the appropriate channels to stay legal and stay respectful to other folks who are going through this bs just to be able to live with those they love.

This pilot program for spouses is the biggest break we've gotten I think, and it's people trying to find loopholes in a system like canada, one of the last havens of the industrial world, where people don't have to get a college degree to make a million dollars, where buying your own home, your own land and not having debt hang over your head like it does in other less fortunate countries, that make this so soul-consuming as it is.

 

[chipolopolo]

I am confused as to why some members of this forum are so sympathetic towards those who have violated immigration law? To encourage others to lie to the border people, and stay in Canada illegally, then apply inland as yet another way to game the system? Am I missing something here??? To me this seems a clear cut case of a person violating the law, and people suggest that they should marry and apply inland to remain in Canada? Is that not the definition of a marriage of convenience? Why are people encouraging this??

Is there some legitimate reason that I am not seeing about why a person without legal status should be allowed to stay in Canada, when it is simple to apply for a visitor visa extension and they have continued to live in Canada with no respect for our laws whatsoever for 6 years, possibly working illegally? Is it really so difficult to follow the legal process that is laid out before us?

Am I the only one here who is angered beyond belief at this? It is people like this who ruin the immigration system for the rest of us who are just trying to close the gap in a legitimate, legal manner, and have to wait upwards of 2 years to do so. It is people like this who are keeping my family separated.

Prelove, I know that you are pregnant but are you absolutely certain beyond any kind of reasonable doubt that your boyfriend entered into your relationship for legitimate reasons? Objectively speaking he seems like just the type of person who would benefit from tricking a Canadian into a relationship with the sole goal of achieving PR status... I might be completely out of line here and I apologize if I've offended you I'm just concerned with the information you've shared with us...

they have been together 6 years. Alot of people get caught up in this situation. Its hard to leave your loved one. Atleast they are being honest and trying to correct it using the right and legal means

 

[brucem]

they have been together 6 years. Alot of people get caught up in this situation. Its hard to leave your loved one. Atleast they are being honest and trying to correct it using the right and legal means

I'm sorry that still doesn't make it right. Again as with the others above we have spent thousands of dollars doing everything the correct way and I have vented on this forum many times about those who knowingly stay illegally and then appear to have their PR applications processed without problem or even fastracked on some occasions because they dont have legal status.

The only sympathy I have is when people get confused by poor advice through CIC call centre staff or immigration lawyers, which often leave then out of status through no fault of their own. Otherwise each and every one of us has personal responsibility to proceed through the correct avenues to the best of our knowledge. Being illegal for 6 years is certainly not exhibiting that kind of responsibility... end of.

 

[Mariac819]

I'm sorry that still doesn't make it right. Again as with the others above we have spent thousands of dollars doing everything the correct way and I have vented on this forum many times about those who knowingly stay illegally and then appear to have their PR applications processed without problem or even fastracked on some occasions because they dont have legal status.

The only sympathy I have is when people get confused by poor advice through CIC call centre staff or immigration lawyers, which often leave then out of status through no fault of their own. Otherwise each and every one of us has personal responsibility to proceed through the correct avenues to the best of our knowledge. Being illegal for 6 years is certainly not exhibiting that kind of responsibility... end of.

I have to agree with you. I lived apart from my husband for 5 years only seeing him here and there because I didn't want to be illegal and I wanted to finish my education. We are finally married and going through the immigration process (waiting for DM). So even though I do see how Sh**t happens its still 6 long years of being illegal. At some point you have to sit back and realize this isn't right. Its not like there aren't options. After living together one year they had an option to legalize him.