MPNP Application 2012

[marky14]

for CIC?

Yes CIC tabs179

 

[tabs179]

Yes CIC tabs179

In my case, I actually didn't certified all of it. Just my educational documents as proof of English (that's because I had certified copies already. I was suppose to apply MPNP by post but ended applying online in January 2013). ;D

The document checklist will state if they want them notarized or not. Check the list again and look into this guideline: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/EP7TOC.asp

If they don't ask for notarized copy, then there is no need to have them notarized.

 

[warblade25]

Just want share!!!!!!!

New report says immigrants fiscally burden Canada
By Harvey I. Barkin
INQUIRER.net US Bureau
8:48 am | Saturday, October 26th, 2013
8 770 213

Academic Herbert Grubel. CONTRIBUTED PHOTO

TORONTO, Canada – A recently released report by the Fraser Institute implied that immigrants are costing Canadian taxpayers Canadian $20 billion a year.

It also calls for an end to sponsorships of parents and grandparents of immigrants and that Canadian immigration selection require employment by the private sector rather than the government.

At the center of the controversial report is Economics Professor Emeritus at Simon Fraser University Herbert Grubel, who wrote Canada’s Immigration Selection Policies in which he noted that immigrants who arrived since 1986 earned less and paid less taxes than the benefits they received from the government.

Unlike the US, Canada’s points system of selecting principal immigrants has remained largely unchanged since the 1960s. Candidates’ work experience, education, language competency and other factors give them higher points and more likely acceptance for immigration to Canada.

In 2011 about 30 percent of Canada’s immigrants were selected this way. But with spouses and under-age children coming with them, their number rose to about 63 percent.

Grubel recommended stopping the “fiscal drain” by abandoning the points system, replacing it with pre-arranged work contracts as the main criterion to immigrate to Canada.

Early this month, Grubel was quoted by The Philippine Reporter: “Instead of relying on university certificates assessed by civil servants who are in turn instructed by politicians, I would like to see accepted as landed (the Canadian term for citizenship status) immigrants only people who have a job offer from a Canadian employer.”

But the Victoria Filipino-Canadian Association reacted, calling the study exaggerated and partial. They further expressed alarm at the impact the study would bring to Canada’s future immigration policies. The group plans to dispute the study’s conclusion.

The Reporter also quoted Pia Enriquez, director for leadership development of the Ministry of Social Development and Social Innovation, as saying, “I would really like to challenge this. I’m really sorry that (Grubel) was just looking at one part of society. He’s targeting the immigrants and I think immigrants bring so much with them.”

In August immigration lawyer Zool Suleman told the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation News (CBC News), “Parents and grandparents do a lot of undocumented, necessary work inside and outside of the home, allowing Canadians to actually be out in the labor force. Let alone intangible, important things around values and family structures and trying to enshrine a variety of things important to Canada.”

Suleman also warned that changes to the immigration selection process could result in the loss of highly skilled immigrants to Canada.

But Citizenship and Immigration Minister Jason Kenney in May had already announced new criteria for sponsoring parents and grandparents for immigration.

Grubel said that the changes were “in the right direction,” but he was still doubtful that the new criteria were enough to stop the unbalanced tax payment vs. government benefits from immigrants.

In the US, Harvard Economics Professor George Borjas parallels Grubel’s work. Borjas once reported that immigrants in the US raised the annual national income to US$1.6 trillion annually. But US$1.565 trillion go to immigrant wages and benefits, with only US$35 billion going to the native population. Consequently, Borjas advocates for the reduction of immigrants to the US.

Grubel, writing in National Post, compared the cost of immigration between the US and Canada.

“Immigrants make up 18.8 percent of the population in Canada and 12.8 percent in the US. Assuming the economies of the two countries are very similar in most other respects, applying Borjas’ findings to Canada implies that labor loses CA$40 billion a year and employers gain CA$43.5 billion, including the migration effect of $3.5 billion.”

Nevertheless, the average incomes of immigrants in Canada are below the average incomes of the native population. But in Canada, immigrants are entitled to free education, health care, other welfare benefits and benefits that may result from research and cultural projects.

Parents and grandparents lower average incomes of all immigrants. They are elderly, can’t speak English or French (a necessity in Quebec) and may no longer have marketable skills. Also, at their age, their medical services would be at their highest costs.

Grubel’s proposed solution is to have immigrants attain landed status first before getting their parents and grandparents to live with them. The new landed Canadians must then first post bond to pay for their parents’ and grandparents’ health care and other budgets.

In May the Federal Immigration Minister’s list of occupation in demand for Canada was mostly for different engineers. Doctors and nurses were not on the list, except for Quebec, which listed a need for about 20,000 nurses.

Canada’s immigration policy frequently changes. Much like the US, the flux makes for some uneven and spotty development.

Canada’s Supervisa, for example, allows parents and grandparents to visit family members for up to two years at a time, but does not allow landed status, employment and health benefits. In fact, a year’s worth of private medical insurance coverage is also required. Moreover, the temporary visitor’s child or grandchild in Canada must meet a minimum income based on the number of dependents.

In September Mexico’s Ambassador Francisco Suarez railed against Canada’s Harper administration. Quoted from Taliba, “We’re now really mad. Canada has the most stringent visa system for Mexicans by any country in the world.”

Suarez told Taliba that it is easier to get a visa to the US where there are more illegal border crossings from Mexico. “The Canadians require 10 times more information than the Americans.”

“I had to put the date when my mother and father died, 15 and 20 years ago. What’s the use of putting in that date?”

Prime Minister Stephen Harper said that he wanted to remove the policy, in place since 2009. But Harper decided to first relieve the large immigration backlog. The issue is even touchier with the planned visit to Canada of Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto.


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[ramcal]

hi warblade,

my opinion here is whatever canada wants to require us, we should always follow. the reason why we are planning to migrate is for us to get the best life that we have ever dreamed of.

i think the author of the report has a concrete basis and should really be heard. but for us who are still on the process of applying, this is bad news.

if we will look at a macro point of view (without emotions involved) , parents and grandparents are really a heavy burden for the government, you know what i am talking about. but on other hand, immigrants can adapt immediately,work more effectively, live peacefully as a good citizen with the presence of their loveones. this was not included in the report. this i believe is the most important aspect that is being considered right now.

today, Canada is considering not only the skills of those who are applying but they are also looking at the long term, this is why they are considering "heart".

if they will change this scheme, canada will become a nation without heart, only looking out for themselves, earning money is first option and this will be the start of culture change which will definitely hurt their economy in the future.


in short, the existing process should not stop and should not be changed.

anyway, its just my opinion...

 

[tabs179]

Just want share!!!!!!!

New report says immigrants fiscally burden Canada
By Harvey I. Barkin
INQUIRER.net US Bureau
8:48 am | Saturday, October 26th, 2013
8 770 213

TORONTO, Canada – A recently released report by the Fraser Institute implied that immigrants are costing Canadian taxpayers Canadian $20 billion a year....

Prime Minister Stephen Harper said that he wanted to remove the policy, in place since 2009. But Harper decided to first relieve the large immigration backlog. The issue is even touchier with the planned visit to Canada of Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto.

Read more: http://globalnation.inquirer.net/88693/new-report-says-immigrants-fiscally-burden-canada#ixzz2j9rxYNcY
Follow us: @ inquirerdotnet on Twitter | inquirerdotnet on Facebook

This is quite alarming, especially for those who are still starting their process of application. This reminded me of the changes of immigration policy in UK. I took a post-graduate degree in UK to achieve the requirements to obtain a Permanent Residency Status as it was the only missing requirements for me. Three months later, they changed the immigration policy. They made it into point based system and achieving the points were very close to impossible for me. To obtain the minimum points, I have to have a job that entails a minimum of 40,000 pounds annual salary. In UK, that amount of salary is placed for senior managers. So, I was already enrolled and couldn't back out of studying. Post-graduate wasn't my plan at that time but I did it immediately because I wanted to get a PR.

Another possible route for me was to obtain a full-time job before the six month expiration of my post-study work visa. So, I tried this as well, looked for full-time jobs. Not easy either, most companies have application forms which asks this question: Are you eligible to work in UK? Most companies in UK do not want to sponsor employees, this is because it's tedious and they have to undergo scrutiny from the Home Office. End of the day, they can hire a not so competent European and train them well without the hassle of dealing with the Home Office. A friend of mine in HR told me that they don't bother calling non-Europeans for an interview even if they were qualified for the job.

Bottom line is, UK is trying to reduce the number of immigrants entering their country to decrease unemployment. As they cannot control the influx of immigrating Europeans, they are then trying to control the non-EU nationals from entering UK because they can. It is quite understandable, but unfortunate for us. A year before my visa expired, I told my uncle in Canada that I will try to go for MPNP.

Comparing this situation to Canada, however, they are still very open to immigration. UK and other EU countries do not have super visas. And so far, their point based system (for PNPs) is achievable. Although, we have no idea how long these will last.

And I agree with ramcal that parents and grandparents can be a heavy burden (no offense, just stating it as well on a macro point of view) to immigrants, especially newly landed immigrants. As they themselves are just starting to get settled in a new country.

On the other hand, provinces have their own different labour demands, therefore, the federal government will have to consider this as well before they make any final decision. For instance, there is a report in 2012 that Manitoba's immigration was at its lowest and that they are worried that they are losing younger workforce as most of the earlier immigrants in Manitoba are starting to retire. They are worried about pensions (who will pay them when there are lesser people paying taxes). So, if this continues, the federal government might have to agree with certain immigration rules. In fact, even today, if you look into the immigration policies of other provinces, they aren't exactly the same. I think only Manitoba provides points in having a friend as a sponsor in adaptability section.

Let's just hope that opposition groups will be able to convince the federal government to maintain their current immigration policies.

 

[warblade25]

Hi guys,

Thanks for the opinion, I just share this report, just to give a heads up to our fellow applicants,

All I want to say is; that someone is trying to stir the policy on immigration.

Thanks guys!!!!

 

[kurtsebastian]

Actually, CIC has already published that they will be adapting the Expression of Interest being used in Oz. They will start the scheme in 2015 replacing the FSW, they want the immigrants to be work-ready once they have landed in Canada. On the other news, Provincial Nominations will be prioritized, they want to make sure that major cities will not be saturated by new comers.

 

[tabs179]

Actually, CIC has already published that they will be adapting the Expression of Interest being used in Oz. They will start the scheme in 2015 replacing the FSW, they want the immigrants to be work-ready once they have landed in Canada. On the other news, Provincial Nominations will be prioritized, they want to make sure that major cities will not be saturated by new comers.

That's what I was hoping they will maintain the PNP. Good news in making it into a priority.

 

[kurtsebastian]

That's what I was hoping they will maintain the PNP. Good news in making it into a priority.

Yes. As long as PNP is still there, chances are quite massive, i think they will add more CAP every province. Plus, MPNP needs more people until 2020, this is my interpretation upon reading the publication of MPNP's annual report.

 

[ohanne]

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[MB1234]

Please, I need an urgent help on this.
I have received an email from Ottpilot-immigration requesting me to pay RPRF, and the instruction in the email is for online payment. I am an outside applicant and don't have a credit card.
Can my brother who is Canada pay using his credit card?
What is the information to be filled on the receipt and how can I fill them if using credit card for someone who live in Canada?is a sgniture is requierd on the receipt? after scaning the receipt should it be sent from my email or from the payer email?
What should I write in The email (subjest,...etc)?

 

[tabs179]

Please, I need an urgent help on this.
I have received an email from Ottpilot-immigration requesting me to pay RPRF, and the instruction in the email is for online payment. I am an outside applicant and don't have a credit card.
Can my brother who is Canada pay using his credit card?
What is the information to be filled on the receipt and how can I fill them if using credit card for someone who live in Canada?is a sgniture is requierd on the receipt? after scaning the receipt should it be sent from my email or from the payer email?
What should I write in The email (subjest,...etc)?

I paid my PR application and RPRF application at the same time, online.

Let your brother pay online, he will receive a copy of the receipt on his email. He can send you a copy of that receipt via email and you can fill it in.

Now I am not sure if you can scan it and send it via email to CIC. Although, I think it should be okay as it is an online payment.

/hth

 

[MB1234]

I paid my PR application and RPRF application at the same time, online.

Let your brother pay online, he will receive a copy of the receipt on his email. He can send you a copy of that receipt via email and you can fill it in.

Now I am not sure if you can scan it and send it via email to CIC. Although, I think it should be okay as it is an online payment.

/hth

In the email they said to scan, attach and send via email, but what confusing me is the information on the receitp, should it be mine or that of the card holder(card holder info already enterd on line).

 

[tabs179]

In the email they said to scan, attach and send via email, but what confusing me is the information on the receitp, should it be mine or that of the card holder(card holder info already enterd on line).

The information on the receipt should be yours, because it's for your RPRF.

 

[kidlat]

ECAS updated today! DECISION MADE!

ppr oct 22..oct 23 sent passport thu DHL..oct 24 received