Moving out from Quebec for faster Spousal Sponsorship

[Mandeep2354]

Hi Guys, My wife and I live in Quebec and we just got married, I am already PR and my wife is on work permit which will expire soon. Will apply for Spousal sponsorship soon in coming days.
I don't have much knowledge about Spousal sponsorship. However , if someone can answer my questions and help me.
1 - As Quebec takes longer to process application is there something I can do to make Non-Quebec (Ontario Specific) application while living in Quebec to make my application process faster ?


2 - Should we both first move outside Quebec and then apply from outside Quebec to make the processing faster? If this is the case, how many days after moving to another province can we apply for the sponsorship application?

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks

 

[scylla]

Hi Guys, My wife and I live in Quebec and we just got married, I am already PR and my wife is on work permit which will expire soon. Will apply for Spousal sponsorship soon in coming days.
I don't have much knowledge about Spousal sponsorship. However , if someone can answer my questions and help me.
1 - As Quebec takes longer to process application is there something I can do to make Non-Quebec (Ontario Specific) application while living in Quebec to make my application process faster ?


2 - Should we both first move outside Quebec and then apply from outside Quebec to make the processing faster? If this is the case, how many days after moving to another province can we apply for the sponsorship application?

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks

1. No. If you are living in Quebec then you have to go through the Quebec process.
2. Yes, you can do this. You can submit your application immediately after moving.

 

[armoured]

2 - Should we both first move outside Quebec and then apply from outside Quebec to make the processing faster? If this is the case, how many days after moving to another province can we apply for the sponsorship application?

I agree with below - you can apply after moving - but I'd suggest you should at least get basics like Ontario DL, apply for health card.

And note, if you should move back to Quebec during the process, you would have to advise IRCC - and probably then be subject to the Quebec extended processing time.

 

[canuck78]

Hi Guys, My wife and I live in Quebec and we just got married, I am already PR and my wife is on work permit which will expire soon. Will apply for Spousal sponsorship soon in coming days.
I don't have much knowledge about Spousal sponsorship. However , if someone can answer my questions and help me.
1 - As Quebec takes longer to process application is there something I can do to make Non-Quebec (Ontario Specific) application while living in Quebec to make my application process faster ?


2 - Should we both first move outside Quebec and then apply from outside Quebec to make the processing faster? If this is the case, how many days after moving to another province can we apply for the sponsorship application?

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks

Moving may also not be enough and will complicate returning to Quebec for your spouse. Will you be leaving your employment in Quebec? Will your spouse be working outside Quebec?

 

[ImmSen]

Moving may also not be enough and will complicate returning to Quebec for your spouse. Will you be leaving your employment in Quebec? Will your spouse be working outside Quebec?

Moving back would not complicate anything after PR is approved. Permanent residents are free to live anywhere in Canada. So once PR is approved. Good to go. All that IRCC requires to my knowledge, to accept an Ontario or other province application is a residential address. Not sure you even need to prove that you live there: I am verifying this at the moment.

 

[ImmSen]

Hi Guys, My wife and I live in Quebec and we just got married, I am already PR and my wife is on work permit which will expire soon. Will apply for Spousal sponsorship soon in coming days.
I don't have much knowledge about Spousal sponsorship. However , if someone can answer my questions and help me.
1 - As Quebec takes longer to process application is there something I can do to make Non-Quebec (Ontario Specific) application while living in Quebec to make my application process faster ?


2 - Should we both first move outside Quebec and then apply from outside Quebec to make the processing faster? If this is the case, how many days after moving to another province can we apply for the sponsorship application?

Any help will be appreciated. Thanks

I am thinking of doing the same thing. I have been asking chatgpt. I am also thinking of talking to a lawyer about doing that. I know a lawyer I have had several consultancy with. He is good. I can ask him if he would see us both together about doing this without risk. He is 225+tax. We can split the cost. and prepare our questions together if you like and then do a zoom meeting with him.

Would you be interested?

 

[canuck78]

Moving back would not complicate anything after PR is approved. Permanent residents are free to live anywhere in Canada. So once PR is approved. Good to go. All that IRCC requires to my knowledge, to accept an Ontario or other province application is a residential address. Not sure you even need to prove that you live there: I am verifying this at the moment.

Of course it will because your spouse will need CSQ to qualify for RAMQ and other services. You have to prove settlement outside of Quebec. For example if you move to Ottawa but keep working for your employer in Montreal even remotely that indicates you are likely to return to Quebec and trying to bypass the Quebec immigration system. Many are trying to do so and so there will be extra scrutiny.

 

[ImmSen]

Of course it will because your spouse will need CSQ to qualify for RAMQ and other services. You have to prove settlement outside of Quebec. For example if you move to Ottawa but keep working for your employer in Montreal even remotely that indicates you are likely to return to Quebec and trying to bypass the Quebec immigration system. Many are trying to do so and so there will be extra scrutiny.

You are highly wrong. You do not need CSQ to be eligible to RAMQ. You become eligible after you establish residence. You are also not an immigration lawyer. Nor a consultant. You just like to be important. and you do so by spreading worrisome disinformation here. I see you are very active on here, but your profile restrict viewing all your posts and comments history. No one can see it. Which shows to me you are not genuine.

I have observed you have spread enough disinformation when I came across your posts to think you are just some type of online loonie. Like people cat fishing on social media. You have obscure motives to spreading such bogus and wrong claims.

I will not interact nor respond to you anymore. And I am appalled at your blatant will to hurt people on this forum seeking real information.

I have several friends who hold PR from other provinces and moved here to Quebec. Here is my proof. Besides, I verified your claim with chatgpt. You are so wrong. Morally and factually.

 

[canuck78]

You are highly wrong. You do not need CSQ to be eligible to RAMQ. You become eligible after you establish residence. You are also not an immigration lawyer. Nor a consultant. You just like to be important. and you do so by spreading worrisome disinformation here. I see you are very active on here, but your profile restrict viewing all your posts and comments history. No one can see it. Which shows to me you are not genuine.

I have observed you have spread enough disinformation when I came across your posts to think you are just some type of online loonie. Like people cat fishing on social media. You have obscure motives to spreading such bogus and wrong claims.

I will not interact nor respond to you anymore. And I am appalled at your blatant will to hurt people on this forum seeking real information.

I have several friends who hold PR from other provinces and moved here to Quebec. Here is my proof. Besides, I verified your claim with chatgpt. You are so wrong. Morally and factually.

First of all I didn’t intentionally block my posts from anyone so I will have to look how that happened. I am not wrong you just have to look at the website. Yes you can move after getting PR although provinces are now become much more strict about whether people remain in provinces that awarded them PNP and Quebec is the worst to deal with if they think you manipulated the immigration system and always intended on settling in Quebec. Also PRs moving from another province to Quebec likely already had longterm insurance in another province so may have escaped the proof of CSQ. That is fairly abnormal for spouses being sponsored where it is standard to have to show CSQ for both RAMQ and access to things like language classes. Perhaps look at RAMQ website not ChatGPT

https://www.ramq.gouv.qc.ca/en/newcomers-register-health-insurance-online

 

[ImmSen]

First of all I didn’t intentionally block my posts from anyone so I will have to look how that happened. I am not wrong you just have to look at the website. Yes you can move after getting PR although provinces are now become much more strict about whether people remain in provinces that awarded them PNP and Quebec is the worst to deal with if they think you manipulated the immigration system and always intended on settling in Quebec. Also PRs moving from another province to Quebec likely already had longterm insurance in another province so may have escaped the proof of CSQ. That is fairly abnormal for spouses being sponsored where it is standard to have to show CSQ for both RAMQ and access to things like language classes. Perhaps look at RAMQ website not ChatGPT

https://www.ramq.gouv.qc.ca/en/newcomers-register-health-insurance-online

I looked at the RAMQ link, and basically, the CSQ is not necessarily required. Read again, it says "some" documents are needed, based on your situation. Among which PR card. Chatgpt has been highly accurate for me. And I also rely on google. And friends with PR who moved to Quebec. They did not need a CSQ and were able to get RAMQ.

You say: "If they think you manipulated the immigration system": they would need proof of that, they cannot make you lose PR on a hunch. If you maintain valid residence in a province, like a lease as primary residence, that is what they have to go off of. and that is problematic, because PR have the right to live anywhere in Quebec. Unless their PR is conditional to a particular stream of immigration, and spousal sponsorhsip are not.

Now perhaps they could scrutinize prior to giving PR, I haven't looked into that. But once they issue PR, this is the end.

 

[ImmSen]

I looked at the RAMQ link, and basically, the CSQ is not necessarily required. Read again, it says "some" documents are needed, based on your situation. Among which PR card. Chatgpt has been highly accurate for me. And I also rely on google. And friends with PR who moved to Quebec. They did not need a CSQ and were able to get RAMQ.

You say: "If they think you manipulated the immigration system": they would need proof of that, they cannot make you lose PR on a hunch. If you maintain valid residence in a province, like a lease as primary residence, that is what they have to go off of. and that is problematic, because PR have the right to live anywhere in Quebec. Unless their PR is conditional to a particular stream of immigration, and spousal sponsorhsip are not.

Now perhaps they could scrutinize prior to giving PR, I haven't looked into that. But once they issue PR, this is the end.

Correction. I meant to PR have the right to live anywhere in "Canada". That includes Quebec.

 

[ImmSen]

First of all I didn’t intentionally block my posts from anyone so I will have to look how that happened. I am not wrong you just have to look at the website. Yes you can move after getting PR although provinces are now become much more strict about whether people remain in provinces that awarded them PNP and Quebec is the worst to deal with if they think you manipulated the immigration system and always intended on settling in Quebec. Also PRs moving from another province to Quebec likely already had longterm insurance in another province so may have escaped the proof of CSQ. That is fairly abnormal for spouses being sponsored where it is standard to have to show CSQ for both RAMQ and access to things like language classes. Perhaps look at RAMQ website not ChatGPT

https://www.ramq.gouv.qc.ca/en/newcomers-register-health-insurance-online

Also. IRCC would verify address of residence based on which province you file your taxes. Giving you PR in any other provinces but Quebec is not attached to the province and is entirely a federal matter. SO if you list primary residence in BC and file taxes in BC, and then get PR, and then move to Quebec: well Quebec is stuck with you and that's that. and federal would not care. For spousal sponsorship, it is not attached to a province, but entirely based on proof of relationship authenticity.

 

[canuck78]

Also. IRCC would verify address of residence based on which province you file your taxes. Giving you PR in any other provinces but Quebec is not attached to the province and is entirely a federal matter. SO if you list primary residence in BC and file taxes in BC, and then get PR, and then move to Quebec: well Quebec is stuck with you and that's that. and federal would not care. For spousal sponsorship, it is not attached to a province, but entirely based on proof of relationship authenticity.

For economic migration they certainly look at more than where you filed your taxes. Also many provinces are starting to look if you remained in the province you applied to reside in under PNP and questioning whether you misrepresented your intention to remain in the province. For all forms of PR applications ties to Quebec are considered especially now that there are significant differences in processing times.

 

[ImmSen]

For economic migration they certainly look at more than where you filed your taxes. Also many provinces are starting to look if you remained in the province you applied to reside in under PNP and questioning whether you misrepresented your intention to remain in the province. For all forms of PR applications ties to Quebec are considered especially now that there are significant differences in processing times.

can you cite sources to the claims you are making..

 

[canuck78]

can you cite sources to the claims you are making..

I have been hearing reports from immigration consultants and lawyer and I believe some posts on this forum that many provinces are getting more strict about PNP applicants and whether they remain in Canada. Quebec has always been an issue although more of an issue now as they try to reduce volume of newcomers and they know people are trying to avoid processing times and program pauses. There is no point of being in control of your immigration if a large portion approved in the rest of Canada move to Quebec right after they get PR. We are in a new age of enforcement and with limited quotas provinces will want to ensure that people approved remain and contribute to their province at least initially.