Mississauga Citizenship Applicants

[bluesami]

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Items 3 and 4 might have contributed to this RQ request.

May be @dpenabill can provide a deeper insight but IMO, long periods of unemployment (and sometimes being self employed through out) might raise some eyebrows about residence requirements. The reason is because before June 2020, CBSA did NOT track the exits out of the country. They used to only track entries into the country. Because of this, when IRCC queries CBSA DB, they would see only entry records. They had to ascertain that you have truthfully declared the date when you left the country and this RQ might have been a result of that.

How long does it take to finish the process of the RQ ?
I sent it in Feb 2020 ( almost 16 months ) !!

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

How long does it take to finish the process of the RQ ?
I sent it in Feb 2020 ( almost 16 months ) !!

I don't know, I'm sorry. I have no idea what the timelines are because it'll only be a guess. Let's see if @dpenabill can provide a deeper insight.

Also, do you remember if you answered 'Yes' or 'No' to the following question on your citizenship application form?

14 (b) I hereby give my consent to the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) to disclose the details of my history of travel to IRCC in order to assist IRCC in determining my citizenship eligibility. I also hereby authorize IRCC to collect the history of my travel from CBSA.

Most people answer "Yes" to this question.

 

[bluesami]

I don't know, I'm sorry. I have no idea what the timelines are because it'll only be a guess. Let's see if @dpenabill can provide a deeper insight.

Also, do you remember if you answered 'Yes' or 'No' to the following question on your citizenship application form?

14 (b) I hereby give my consent to the Canada Border Services Agency (CBSA) to disclose the details of my history of travel to IRCC in order to assist IRCC in determining my citizenship eligibility. I also hereby authorize IRCC to collect the history of my travel from CBSA.

Most people answer "Yes" to this question.

My answer is YES

 

[dpenabill]

. . . requested :

1.Rental agreements, leases or mortagage documents.
2.Records of employment or pay stubs.
3.Official education records
4.Income Tax option C printout for (2014,2015,2016,2017,2018).

. . . IMO, long periods of unemployment (and sometimes being self employed through out) might raise some eyebrows about residence requirements. The reason is because before June 2020, CBSA did NOT track the exits out of the country. They used to only track entries into the country. Because of this, when IRCC queries CBSA DB, they would see only entry records. They had to ascertain that you have truthfully declared the date when you left the country and this RQ might have been a result of that.

@bluesami -- unfortunately there is very little available information about the timeline for applications subject to RQ-related (Residence Questionnaire related) non-routine processing.

As @rajkamalmohanram noted, and you appear to be aware, the requests for additional documents are what we generally refer to as "RQ" or "RQ-related," meaning they are requests for additional information and documents regarding proof of meeting the actual physical presence requirement for a grant of citizenship.

Who and why, are each separate, complicated subjects, and frankly off-topic in this thread.

When is currently, it appears, usually at or following the test and interview event. This is clouded more than a little, currently, given the extent to which Covid-19 has skewered things. Leading to . . .

What is the impact on the processing timeline, or how much longer will it take because of RQ, is less complicated because we really do not know. Cannot say much about it beyond it "DEPENDS," and that is a partial answer at most. But, currently, given the extent to which Covid-19 has skewered things, RQ-related non-routine processing does not appear to be seeing much if any progress, so waiting and continuing to wait, with potentially some rather long processing timelines looming, seems likely.

@rajkamalmohanram -- RQ-related non-routine processing has been, probably, the number one focus of my interests here for more than a decade now. I appreciate any and all efforts to gather, digest, collate, and analyze information about this aspect of processing and deciding grant citizenship applications. If you at least copy or comment about what you learn in the topic titled: RQ versus Physical Presence Questionnaires, including CIT 0205 here: https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/rq-versus-physical-presence-questionnaires-including-cit-0205.534082/ that might help to keep access to a somewhat centralized repository of such information.

I will quote your list there and attempt to address it later (been up all night to get a day-job manuscript submitted way past its deadline, so what's left of my brain is slip-sliding away for the day).

For now it warrants noting that ANYONE, ANY APPLICANT, can get RQ-related requests. IRCC does not need a "reason" to make such requests. In the topic I referenced, for example, one version was clearly being issued randomly as a quality control exercise.

In that topic, and in many others, I have often discussed factors which increase the risk of RQ-related non-routine processing, to a significant extent based on legacy information about what were known reasons-to-question-residency, called triage criteria in the File Requirements Checklist introduced during the Harper years. The criteria has been confidential now for nearly a decade.

But for any applicant who has received RQ-related requests, the *why* does not matter all that much. Likewise, really, for anyone who has already submitted an application. Discussions about what triggers RQ is more about recognizing what can increase the risk of RQ, and thus is mostly of interest and use for PROSPECTIVE applicants, PRs still considering when to make the application.

There is no way to avoid RQ. There are ways to minimize increasing the risk. Just getting the travel history complete and accurate, for example, is among the biggest; applying with a decent margin over the minimum, probably a big one. Following the instructions and making few mistakes overall, likewise.

In the past, certain factors like self-employment were big factors (for a time in 2012 ANY period of self-employment triggered RQ, as did any period of unemployment). Probably still a factor, but its weight is largely unknown.

I have already wandered enough into the weeds here . . . but, it demands a reminder: for most of the relevant factors, it is not so much about a particular factor in itself, but far more about how various circumstances relate to one another. Note, for example, if the applicant is a U.S. citizen who reports zero travel abroad, that's going to trigger some questions; in contrast, for a PR in Canada as refugee, no travel abroad is not likely to invite concerns; for a factory worker, holidays abroad for months at a time probably invites some probing, but for a university professor not so much. It gets complicated.

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

@bluesami -- unfortunately there is very little available information about the timeline for applications subject to RQ-related (Residence Questionnaire related) non-routine processing.

As @rajkamalmohanram noted, and you appear to be aware, the requests for additional documents are what we generally refer to as "RQ" or "RQ-related," meaning they are requests for additional information and documents regarding proof of meeting the actual physical presence requirement for a grant of citizenship.

Who and why, are each separate, complicated subjects, and frankly off-topic in this thread.

When is currently, it appears, usually at or following the test and interview event. This is clouded more than a little, currently, given the extent to which Covid-19 has skewered things. Leading to . . .

What is the impact on the processing timeline, or how much longer will it take because of RQ, is less complicated because we really do not know. Cannot say much about it beyond it "DEPENDS," and that is a partial answer at most. But, currently, given the extent to which Covid-19 has skewered things, RQ-related non-routine processing does not appear to be seeing much if any progress, so waiting and continuing to wait, with potentially some rather long processing timelines looming, seems likely.

@rajkamalmohanram -- RQ-related non-routine processing has been, probably, the number one focus of my interests here for more than a decade now. I appreciate any and all efforts to gather, digest, collate, and analyze information about this aspect of processing and deciding grant citizenship applications. If you at least copy or comment about what you learn in the topic titled: RQ versus Physical Presence Questionnaires, including CIT 0205 here: https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/rq-versus-physical-presence-questionnaires-including-cit-0205.534082/ that might help to keep access to a somewhat centralized repository of such information.

I will quote your list there and attempt to address it later (been up all night to get a day-job manuscript submitted way past its deadline, so what's left of my brain is slip-sliding away for the day).

For now it warrants noting that ANYONE, ANY APPLICANT, can get RQ-related requests. IRCC does not need a "reason" to make such requests. In the topic I referenced, for example, one version was clearly being issued randomly as a quality control exercise.

In that topic, and in many others, I have often discussed factors which increase the risk of RQ-related non-routine processing, to a significant extent based on legacy information about what were known reasons-to-question-residency, called triage criteria in the File Requirements Checklist introduced during the Harper years. The criteria has been confidential now for nearly a decade.

But for any applicant who has received RQ-related requests, the *why* does not matter all that much. Likewise, really, for anyone who has already submitted an application. Discussions about what triggers RQ is more about recognizing what can increase the risk of RQ, and thus is mostly of interest and use for PROSPECTIVE applicants, PRs still considering when to make the application.

There is no way to avoid RQ. There are ways to minimize increasing the risk. Just getting the travel history complete and accurate, for example, is among the biggest; applying with a decent margin over the minimum, probably a big one. Following the instructions and making few mistakes overall, likewise.

In the past, certain factors like self-employment were big factors (for a time in 2012 ANY period of self-employment triggered RQ, as did any period of unemployment). Probably still a factor, but its weight is largely unknown.

I have already wandered enough into the weeds here . . . but, it demands a reminder: for most of the relevant factors, it is not so much about a particular factor in itself, but far more about how various circumstances relate to one another. Note, for example, if the applicant is a U.S. citizen who reports zero travel abroad, that's going to trigger some questions; in contrast, for a PR in Canada as refugee, no travel abroad is not likely to invite concerns; for a factory worker, holidays abroad for months at a time probably invites some probing, but for a university professor not so much. It gets complicated.

Thank you. If I find anything about the RQ process / nuances, I will post it in the thread that you've linked.

 

[bluesami]

@bluesami -- unfortunately there is very little available information about the timeline for applications subject to RQ-related (Residence Questionnaire related) non-routine processing.

As @rajkamalmohanram noted, and you appear to be aware, the requests for additional documents are what we generally refer to as "RQ" or "RQ-related," meaning they are requests for additional information and documents regarding proof of meeting the actual physical presence requirement for a grant of citizenship.

Who and why, are each separate, complicated subjects, and frankly off-topic in this thread.

When is currently, it appears, usually at or following the test and interview event. This is clouded more than a little, currently, given the extent to which Covid-19 has skewered things. Leading to . . .

What is the impact on the processing timeline, or how much longer will it take because of RQ, is less complicated because we really do not know. Cannot say much about it beyond it "DEPENDS," and that is a partial answer at most. But, currently, given the extent to which Covid-19 has skewered things, RQ-related non-routine processing does not appear to be seeing much if any progress, so waiting and continuing to wait, with potentially some rather long processing timelines looming, seems likely.

@rajkamalmohanram -- RQ-related non-routine processing has been, probably, the number one focus of my interests here for more than a decade now. I appreciate any and all efforts to gather, digest, collate, and analyze information about this aspect of processing and deciding grant citizenship applications. If you at least copy or comment about what you learn in the topic titled: RQ versus Physical Presence Questionnaires, including CIT 0205 here: https://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/threads/rq-versus-physical-presence-questionnaires-including-cit-0205.534082/ that might help to keep access to a somewhat centralized repository of such information.

I will quote your list there and attempt to address it later (been up all night to get a day-job manuscript submitted way past its deadline, so what's left of my brain is slip-sliding away for the day).

For now it warrants noting that ANYONE, ANY APPLICANT, can get RQ-related requests. IRCC does not need a "reason" to make such requests. In the topic I referenced, for example, one version was clearly being issued randomly as a quality control exercise.

In that topic, and in many others, I have often discussed factors which increase the risk of RQ-related non-routine processing, to a significant extent based on legacy information about what were known reasons-to-question-residency, called triage criteria in the File Requirements Checklist introduced during the Harper years. The criteria has been confidential now for nearly a decade.

But for any applicant who has received RQ-related requests, the *why* does not matter all that much. Likewise, really, for anyone who has already submitted an application. Discussions about what triggers RQ is more about recognizing what can increase the risk of RQ, and thus is mostly of interest and use for PROSPECTIVE applicants, PRs still considering when to make the application.

There is no way to avoid RQ. There are ways to minimize increasing the risk. Just getting the travel history complete and accurate, for example, is among the biggest; applying with a decent margin over the minimum, probably a big one. Following the instructions and making few mistakes overall, likewise.

In the past, certain factors like self-employment were big factors (for a time in 2012 ANY period of self-employment triggered RQ, as did any period of unemployment). Probably still a factor, but its weight is largely unknown.

I have already wandered enough into the weeds here . . . but, it demands a reminder: for most of the relevant factors, it is not so much about a particular factor in itself, but far more about how various circumstances relate to one another. Note, for example, if the applicant is a U.S. citizen who reports zero travel abroad, that's going to trigger some questions; in contrast, for a PR in Canada as refugee, no travel abroad is not likely to invite concerns; for a factory worker, holidays abroad for months at a time probably invites some probing, but for a university professor not so much. It gets complicated.

Thank you

 

[peedvar]

My ecas status changed to Decision Made. I haven't followed the thread for a while. Is Mississauga office sending Oath invites?

 

[soumya2k2]

Congratulations !! Whats your timeline?

 

[rai786]

Hi guys so I received invitation to take the test next month so do they ask question only from discover canada or also about your local municipality members ?

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

Hi guys so I received invitation to take the test next month so do they ask question only from discover canada or also about your local municipality members ?

AFAIK, all questions will be from Discover Canada. I haven't seen reports of people being asked about names of political figures (may be except the PM and the Premier).

 

[peedvar]

Congratulations !! Whats your timeline?

Sept, 2019.

 

[rai786]

AFAIK, all questions will be from Discover Canada. I haven't seen reports of people being asked about names of political figures (may be except the PM and the Premier).

Oh thanks I just did some of the online test and there was some questions about the local government

 

[mandhaata]

Lots of members (Mississauga applicants) from a Facebook group shared updates in that group today that the new tracker tool was updated for them with an “Attend the Interview” message.

for most of these guys interviews are scheduled for tomorrow (June 24) and almost none of them received any email (only tracker update).

Will wait to see what happens tomorrow.

For me, I am still waiting for next update on our files. Last update was from April 06 (when our Citizenship tests were marked as Completed)!

 

[rajkamalmohanram]

Lots of members (Mississauga applicants) from a Facebook group shared updates in that group today that the new tracker tool was updated for them with an “Attend the Interview” message.

for most of these guys interviews are scheduled for tomorrow (June 24) and almost none of them received any email (only tracker update).

Will wait to see what happens tomorrow.

For me, I am still waiting for next update on our files. Last update was from April 06 (when our Citizenship tests were marked as Completed)!

Almost all of those interviews will be cancelled. There might be a glitch in the tool. Also, IRCC has been calling applicants and cancelling interviews about 10 minutes before the interview. Applicants are instead requested to email all pages of passports. I think they are slowly decommissioning the interview process over MS teams.

 

[mandhaata]

Almost all of those interviews will be cancelled. There might be a glitch in the tool. Also, IRCC has been calling applicants and cancelling interviews about 10 minutes before the interview. Applicants are instead requested to email all pages of passports. I think they are slowly decommissioning the interview process over MS teams.

Yes, that seems to be the trend lately (schedule an interview and then cancel). IRCC and its weird ways
I am surprised though that not too many Mississauga applicants posting updates on this forum anymore. I guess everyone is just so tired of this arduous wait!!

Anywayz, I will post an update as I get thru that FB group.