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tsjunx said:
Hi guys,

can someone please tell me what the SSP stands for? Thanks!
Secretaria de Seguridad Publica
 

tsjunx

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mc1234

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OhCanadiana said:
Glad it makes sense now :)

If you have any questions/doubts left, don't be shy about asking.
Gracias. :) Just one more for now :) How long are they valid for? The PGR and SSR? I am sure when the time comes I will have about a million more, but right now I am going to focus on getting our approval!
 

am19

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OhCanadiana said:
CIC added the SSP requirement recently! The SSP requirement is it's own can of worms ... for people in Mexico, it can only be done in Mexico City, and even there they up and moved offices across the city with no real notice ... for people outside Mexico, there's still the question of how to do it if you aren't in Mexico and don't have family in Mexico City (CIC thinks Mexican Embassies will do it, but they aren't playing ball - yet?) Alas, we'll sort it out and get to the finish line :)
SSP means Secretaría de Seguridad Pública (ssp.gob.mx) but what does a "SSP certificate" means?
Does anyone have the link from the Secretaría de Seguridad Publica website or the actual name for this certificate?

People should understand is not that easy for us to go from one dependency to another just asking for "certificates", specially when you know how people are in México and the bureaucracy.

I think it would be more helpful if the information comes from someone who just got this document.
 

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am19 said:
SSP means Secretaría de Seguridad Pública (ssp.gob.mx) but what does a "SSP certificate" means?
Does anyone have the link from the Secretaría de Seguridad Publica website or the actual name for this certificate?

People should understand is not that easy for us to go from one dependency to another just asking for "certificates", specially when you know how people are in México and the bureaucracy.

I think it would be more helpful if the information comes from someone who just got this document.
Hello, and welcome :)

The easiest place to see the details on the SSP certificates that CIC requires is CIC's website How to obtain a police certificate - Mexico.

By the way, you may not realize this if you just read the last post that was posted when you popped in - the post you quoted was part of an ongoing conversation in which the participants were well aware of what the SSP certificate is and in which we were discussing how to get a police certificate for a particular person's situation.

We've had a lot of more general dialogue on this with specific reports from people who got them within a week of the new requirement showing up. Here's a few posts to start you off: our conversation about the new requirement started on page 190 and went on for a few pages including a discussion where we figured it out together for the first folks going to get it, then we had the pioneers report back(edgarsitow, Americana in T.O., and Nessa). After that, sillymemo reported on the change of address (which is still incorrect on the various official websites, BTW). There's some aspects we are still sorting out (and which CIC/SSP/Embassies will likely still evolve on too) that I was alluding to in my post responding to LeisaP's question. If you do a search for SSP on this thread you can find additional information.

Bottom line: if you are or a direct family member (parents, sibling, aunt/uncle) is in Mexico City, it's quite easy to get (they process it same day, couple hours and you're done). If you're not in Mexico City and don't have a direct family member there, then you or a direct family member either need to go to Mexico City to get it or, if you are abroad, explore if your Embassy/consulate will do it (so far, the ones in Canada have said they have instructions from SRE - Secretaría de Relaciones Exteriores / Foreign Affairs - not to get involved, however the SSP folks and CIC seems to think Embassies and Consulates can do it). Do if you are in Mexico City or can get there, it's not a big deal. If not, then it may be a bigger headache in the short term while the new requirement gets sorted out by all involved.

Also, if you're willing to share a bit more about your situation, there's many folks here who have a wealth of info who are willing to help you navigate the bureaucracy. You're really joining a community here in the Mexico thread :)
 

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Nessa said:
Did you have to pay anything to get the police check? Because the SSP is free. The PGR costs something like 135 pesos (I can´t remember the exact price).
umm im not entirely sure.
we just sent the finger prints and carta de poder.
i am assuming if we had to pay something my mother in law would have paid it. but i dont know for sure.

but the police check we got was one that stated he had no criminalities in all of mexico. i remeber this because when we had it translated i read through it.

:-\
 

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Gracias. :) Just one more for now :) How long are they valid for? The PGR and SSR? I am sure when the time comes I will have about a million more, but right now I am going to focus on getting our approval!
Technically, one year. However, I've seen them ask for updates ... and have seen them not ask for updates (what's new?!?)

You may want to start to start the process to explore getting the letter from the Embassy, etc. You should get your approval soon (*goose bumps*) and I don't know what the lead-time is for appointments at the Embassy now. To capture the time savings, you want the certificate in your file when Mexico looks at it when they get it from CPC-M :)
 

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LeisaP said:
umm im not entirely sure.
we just sent the finger prints and carta de poder.
i am assuming if we had to pay something my mother in law would have paid it. but i dont know for sure.

but the police check we got was one that stated he had no criminalities in all of mexico. i remeber this because when we had it translated i read through it.

:-\
Do you perchance have a copy of it somewhere? Or, does your suegra remember if she got it same day (maybe even the address?) ... back then the SSP was on Xola near the Torre de Mexicana? If you didn't have an official request letter from a government entity, it's unlikely that it was the PGR...
 

LeisaP

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OhCanadiana said:
Also, the SSP you get same day; the PGR one you have to go back 10 days later. That may help your detective work, LeisaP :)
haha yeah no kidding!

i am going to send my mother in law an email. which may be difficult. my spanish is still progressing and she knows almost no english. lol thank god for google translate.
and im going to find out if she received it the same day or 10 days later this will pretty much tell me for sure which one it was

thanks!!
 

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OhCanadiana said:
Do you perchance have a copy of it somewhere? Or, does your suegra remember if she got it same day (maybe even the address?) ... back then the SSP was on Xola near the Torre de Mexicana? If you didn't have an official request letter from a government entity, it's unlikely that it was the PGR...
nah we dont have a copy of it.

but i will find out how long it took her to get it. than ill know which one we got :)
thanks everyone!!
 

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OhCanadiana said:
Technically, one year. However, I've seen them ask for updates ... and have seen them not ask for updates (what's new?!?)

You may want to start to start the process to explore getting the letter from the Embassy, etc. You should get your approval soon (*goose bumps*) and I don't know what the lead-time is for appointments at the Embassy now. To capture the time savings, you want the certificate in your file when Mexico looks at it when they get it from CPC-M :)
Oh really?! I was going to wait until we recieved Mexico City AOR. Do you think thats the ideal time for us?? how long does it take the file to transfer from cic-m to mexico city??
 

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Oh really?! I was going to wait until we recieved Mexico City AOR. Do you think thats the ideal time for us?? how long does it take the file to transfer from cic-m to mexico city??
I would actually do it when you get your sponsorship approval from CPC-M (or CPP-O). That way you'll have a file number you can attach to the document when your MiL drops it off. That way it will be in your file when an officer takes a look at it (and maybe even before your AOR, which is generated by locally-engaged-staff reviewing your application for completeness and making a summary for the officer).
 
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Edgar: any sign of the FBI yet? We are still waiting. Called to follow up and the #*&! credit card was declined !!! Why does that always happen when I use my USD MasterCard in the U.S. even when there are no charges on it !!!! :mad: Anyway, payment was just resubmitted using the regular MC so I guess it will be at least another month before that is done. Not that it was actually requested, but I guess glitches are par for the course regardless.

I am sitting on my hands trying to keep myself from emailing the embassy yet again for status but don't know how long that will last.

Any bets on when the next 'batch' will come out? Arrrghhhhhh. And, a deep breath :)
 

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mc1234 said:
Oh really?! I was going to wait until we recieved Mexico City AOR. Do you think thats the ideal time for us?? how long does it take the file to transfer from cic-m to mexico city??
IF you receive AOR.
hopefully you do!!.
but if you get unlucky like us... :mad: we never recieved one and its been 3 months since the transfer.

i would say it takes about 1-2 weeks. from sponsor approval email.