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May 2022 - Citizenship Applications

smash1984

Champion Member
Oct 7, 2018
2,084
850
Hello Guys,
Can I do Fingerprints upfront if I have not received a request yet? Because I need to leave to US for few months.

My timeline is:

Physical Days: 11XX
Method: Online
Applicants: Single
Application sent: May 20, 2022
Delivered: May 20, 2022
AOR : May 27, 2022
Ghost Update: May 30, 2022

IRCC encourages to apply Online because it's easy for them to not scan all the paper applications to make pdfs. Submit PDFs online. But it seems like paper applications are processing alot faster such as in 90-100 days all done.
Paper applications are much much faster.

Unfortunately you can't just submit fingerprints because the IRCC letter which is sent to you is required by the agency before they take your prints. Additionally the letter also tells you which office the fingerprints have to be sent to. So, unfortunately you can't preemptively send FPs.

How long do you have to leave for? I wouldn't expect to hear anything from IRCC on the May online applications until January 2023 probably. I submitted mine on March 5th and there has been radio silence since. So you should be good for a few months at least.
 

iceman55

Hero Member
May 1, 2022
518
259
There are hundreds of thousands of citizenship applications pending with IRCC and here on the forum and the spreadsheet about 3-4% of that volume is tracked - at best.

Some paper applications are definitely processed faster that doesn't mean all the paper applications are. There are still many early stage updates like 'test invite' from paper applicants from mid-2021 and many paper applicants still waiting for tests, you just have to look.

It's obviously important IRCC to synchronize application times for all modes. But in a system like this there will always be issues. Posts on this forum dating back to 2014 complain others who submitted after them were being processed before them.

Online applications from late 2020 and early 2021 were way faster than paper for a while, there were some complaints, - mostly regrets - but I don't believe it was anything nearly as toxic as it has become now.

Now it's just a couple of people that divided the forum and pitting online applicants against paper and made the forum too toxic to visit even once a day.

Again, IRCC needs to do a better job but I'm more unhappy they still have huge 2019/20 backlogs. There are some posts from those applicants in other threads - mostly about hiring attorneys and stuff like that - but I don't see them going to every single thread on the citizenship forum and start hijacking every conversation.

Imagine if they go to the 2021 forum or come here and start quoting update posts on this thread and telling "this is not justified" or "why are they processing 2021/22 applications before 2019/20".

Then, there are geographic discrepancies among offices. Typically GTA, Windsor, Niagara Falls have the best processing times, Montreal , Vancouver, Sydney and Eastern Provinces, Saskatchewan locations have average case times, Edmonton and Alberta in general seems to have the worst times. Imagine if someone from Edmonton goes to Ontario threads and starts calling out every update. For some reason that doesn't happen this often.

I think the reason is many people understand when they see Ontario is faster, it's just some applications from Ontario are faster. There are people from 2019 from some of the fastest processing offices in Ontario still waiting for DM and oath and it's not a small number.

This forum has essentially become a place where people show up and ask for the 2022 spreadsheet link and as soon as they see some applications are processing faster than theirs, they start writing. I bet most of them haven't ever bothered to look at 2019 to 2021 spreadsheets or threads.

How many people here would be happy if IRCC comes out and says they're going into a strict first-in-first-out mode and will process only backlogged 2019-2020 applications for the next full year and everyone else will have to wait?

Or if they start issuing DM and oath at once for online applicants and paper becomes a lower priority, will the same people demand equality?

Also at times, temporary workers and PR visas are processed much faster than citizenship, some people here mention that I don't think a lot of them went to the visa forums and start asking people there why their applications are faster.

Again, IRCC needs to do a much better job especially with older applications and also different intake modes like paper and online. Online tests, interviews and oath are all a huge step towards that. There also appears to be a significant progress in different offices sharing workloads.

I also believe most online citizenship applicants use the mode for convenience than speed.

I'm not saying people shouldn't speak up for their personal goals but making every single conversation about online vs paper will eventually make this forum completely unusable and bring it to all noise, zero data.

Irrespective of how many times it's asked, paper applicants won't know why they got that update and someone else didn't get it.
 

smash1984

Champion Member
Oct 7, 2018
2,084
850
There are hundreds of thousands of citizenship applications pending with IRCC and here on the forum and the spreadsheet about 3-4% of that volume is tracked - at best.

Some paper applications are definitely processed faster that doesn't mean all the paper applications are. There are still many early stage updates like 'test invite' from paper applicants from mid-2021 and many paper applicants still waiting for tests, you just have to look.

It's obviously important IRCC to synchronize application times for all modes. But in a system like this there will always be issues. Posts on this forum dating back to 2014 complain others who submitted after them were being processed before them.

Online applications from late 2020 and early 2021 were way faster than paper for a while, there were some complaints, - mostly regrets - but I don't believe it was anything nearly as toxic as it has become now.

Now it's just a couple of people that divided the forum and pitting online applicants against paper and made the forum too toxic to visit even once a day.

Again, IRCC needs to do a better job but I'm more unhappy they still have huge 2019/20 backlogs. There are some posts from those applicants in other threads - mostly about hiring attorneys and stuff like that - but I don't see them going to every single thread on the citizenship forum and start hijacking every conversation.

Imagine if they go to the 2021 forum or come here and start quoting update posts on this thread and telling "this is not justified" or "why are they processing 2021/22 applications before 2019/20".

Then, there are geographic discrepancies among offices. Typically GTA, Windsor, Niagara Falls have the best processing times, Montreal , Vancouver, Sydney and Eastern Provinces, Saskatchewan locations have average case times, Edmonton and Alberta in general seems to have the worst times. Imagine if someone from Edmonton goes to Ontario threads and starts calling out every update. For some reason that doesn't happen this often.

I think the reason is many people understand when they see Ontario is faster, it's just some applications from Ontario are faster. There are people from 2019 from some of the fastest processing offices in Ontario still waiting for DM and oath and it's not a small number.

This forum has essentially become a place where people show up and ask for the 2022 spreadsheet link and as soon as they see some applications are processing faster than theirs, they start writing. I bet most of them haven't ever bothered to look at 2019 to 2021 spreadsheets or threads.

How many people here would be happy if IRCC comes out and says they're going into a strict first-in-first-out mode and will process only backlogged 2019-2020 applications for the next full year and everyone else will have to wait?

Or if they start issuing DM and oath at once for online applicants and paper becomes a lower priority, will the same people demand equality?

Also at times, temporary workers and PR visas are processed much faster than citizenship, some people here mention that I don't think a lot of them went to the visa forums and start asking people there why their applications are faster.

Again, IRCC needs to do a much better job especially with older applications and also different intake modes like paper and online. Online tests, interviews and oath are all a huge step towards that. There also appears to be a significant progress in different offices sharing workloads.

I also believe most online citizenship applicants use the mode for convenience than speed.

I'm not saying people shouldn't speak up for their personal goals but making every single conversation about online vs paper will eventually make this forum completely unusable and bring it to all noise, zero data.

Irrespective of how many times it's asked, paper applicants won't know why they got that update and someone else didn't get it.
Some great points in here.

Have you seen the internal memos from IRCC where they say they will prioritize paper applications for the year?
 

cara269

Hero Member
Mar 23, 2018
232
130
Ontario
Category........
FAM
Hey quick question just took in my days review i spent as a PR is 1082 with 13 days absent ,equals 1095
but i have days , OWP 246 days add up to 1328 , im i good to go with ircc Total physical Presence ,
i got my AOR 5TH May , or will they require me to do it over .
 

appslove19

Member
May 1, 2019
12
12
Location: Toronto
Physical Days: 1142
Method: Paper based
Number of Applicants: 2
Application sent: May 27, 2022
Delivered: May 31, 2022
AOR: June 15, 2022
Background check completed: July 21, 2022
Test Invite: Aug 4, 2022 (Test to be completed between Aug 8th to Aug 28)
Location: Toronto
Physical Days: 1142
Method: Paper based
Number of Applicants: 2
Application sent: May 27, 2022
Delivered: May 31, 2022
AOR: June 15, 2022
Background check completed: July 21, 2022
Test Invite: Aug 4, 2022 (Test to be completed between Aug 8th to Aug 28)
Test Completed: Aug 21, 2022
 

Tommy2581

Hero Member
May 15, 2017
207
192
Everything is showing Completed except 'Citizenship Ceremony - Not Started' on my spouse and my profile on https://cst-ssc.apps.cic.gc.ca/en/login.
Checked on ECAS (https://services3.cic.gc.ca/ecas/introduction.do?app=ecas) and it is showing 'Decision Made' for both of us.
Location: Brampton
Physical Days: 1307
Method: Paper
Applicants: Family (2 Adults, 1 Minor)
Application sent: April 30, 2022
Delivered: May 6, 2022
AOR : May 31, 2022
Ghost Update: June 22, 2022
Background Verification Completed: June 24, 2022
Citizenship Test Invite: July 14, 2022 (Test between July 18 - August 7)
Test Taken: July 28, 2022
Test Status updated in the System: July 29, 2022
Language Skill Completed: Aug 3, 2022
Physical Presence Completed: Aug 3, 2022
Prohibitions Completed: Aug 3, 2022
Decision Made on eCAS: Aug 18, 2022
Citizenship Ceremony: In Progress
Oath Scheduled on: Sep 1, 2022
(Yet to receive the official email about Citizenship Ceremony details)
 

harry08

Star Member
Jun 8, 2017
52
51
Location: Mississauga
Physical Days: 1118
Method: Paper
Applicants: Family (3)
Application sent: May 01, 2022
Delivered: May 03, 2022
Location: Mississuaga
Physical Days: 1118
Method: Online/paper based: Paper based
Applicants: Single/Family & Number of applicants: Family of 3
Application sent: April 28, 2022
App delivered: May 01, 2022
AOR: May 15, 2022
IP: May 16, 2022
FP requested: July 11, 2022
FP submitted: July 12, 2022
Background verification completed: Aug 08, 2022
Citizenship Test Scheduled: Aug 22, 2022 to Sep 11, 2022
Citizenship Test Completed: Aug 22, 2022

Score: 19/20. Read Discover Canada, attempted all sample tests from apnatoronto site and used you tube canadian citizenship 2022, 414 questions
 

huynguyen

Star Member
Jul 4, 2018
115
63
Location: Brampton
Physical Days: 1307
Method: Paper
Applicants: Family (2 Adults, 1 Minor)
Application sent: April 30, 2022
Delivered: May 6, 2022
AOR : May 31, 2022
Ghost Update: June 22, 2022
Background Verification Completed: June 24, 2022
Citizenship Test Invite: July 14, 2022 (Test between July 18 - August 7)
Test Taken: July 28, 2022
Test Status updated in the System: July 29, 2022
Language Skill Completed: Aug 3, 2022
Physical Presence Completed: Aug 3, 2022
Prohibitions Completed: Aug 3, 2022
Decision Made on eCAS: Aug 18, 2022
Citizenship Ceremony: In Progress
Oath Scheduled on: Sep 1, 2022
(Yet to receive the official email about Citizenship Ceremony details)
Congratulations
 
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harry08

Star Member
Jun 8, 2017
52
51
Location: Brampton
Physical Days: 1307
Method: Paper
Applicants: Family (2 Adults, 1 Minor)
Application sent: April 30, 2022
Delivered: May 6, 2022
AOR : May 31, 2022
Ghost Update: June 22, 2022
Background Verification Completed: June 24, 2022
Citizenship Test Invite: July 14, 2022 (Test between July 18 - August 7)
Test Taken: July 28, 2022
Test Status updated in the System: July 29, 2022
Language Skill Completed: Aug 3, 2022
Physical Presence Completed: Aug 3, 2022
Prohibitions Completed: Aug 3, 2022
Decision Made on eCAS: Aug 18, 2022
Citizenship Ceremony: In Progress
Oath Scheduled on: Sep 1, 2022
(Yet to receive the official email about Citizenship Ceremony details)
congrats !!!
 
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sultanali

Hero Member
Aug 23, 2010
392
18
Scarborough
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Hello Guys,
Can I do Fingerprints upfront if I have not received a request yet? Because I need to leave to US for few months.

My timeline is:

Physical Days: 11XX
Method: Online
Applicants: Single
Application sent: May 20, 2022
Delivered: May 20, 2022
AOR : May 27, 2022
Ghost Update: May 30, 2022

IRCC encourages to apply Online because it's easy for them to not scan all the paper applications to make pdfs. Submit PDFs online. But it seems like paper applications are processing alot faster such as in 90-100 days all done.

I had similar situation for my mom, Since it not required that RCMP send report directly to IRCC but its recommended. what you can do is get certification from any Agency and posted to your address , (do not open it ) and keep it safe if you get FP request you can send it via post to the location they advice you to send in FP request. hope this helps :)
 

FitSikhs

Member
Oct 10, 2017
11
5
Yellowknife
Category........
PNP
I had similar situation for my mom, Since it not required that RCMP send report directly to IRCC but its recommended. what you can do is get certification from any Agency and posted to your address , (do not open it ) and keep it safe if you get FP request you can send it via post to the location they advice you to send in FP request. hope this helps :)
Can you email me your phone number, so that I can call you to ask how to do it? I will appreciate your help. My email is SoldbyAmrinder@gmail.com
 

MDoha

Star Member
Oct 17, 2012
183
12
Category........
NOC Code......
0714
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23/09/2015
Doc's Request.
01/02/16
Nomination.....
20/04/16
Location: Mississuaga
Physical Days: 1118
Method: Online/paper based: Paper based
Applicants: Single/Family & Number of applicants: Family of 3
Application sent: April 28, 2022
App delivered: May 01, 2022
AOR: May 15, 2022
IP: May 16, 2022
FP requested: July 11, 2022
FP submitted: July 12, 2022
Background verification completed: Aug 08, 2022
Citizenship Test Scheduled: Aug 22, 2022 to Sep 11, 2022
Citizenship Test Completed: Aug 22, 2022

Score: 19/20. Read Discover Canada, attempted all sample tests from apnatoronto site and used you tube canadian citizenship 2022, 414 questions
I did the test on July 04th , but since then it is showing in progress, the only that is complete is my BG
 

Pearly000

Star Member
May 7, 2018
122
75
Nigeria
Category........
FSW
NOC Code......
1215
Location: Calgary
Physical Days: 1149
Method: paper-based
Applicants: Family(3)
Application sent: May 21, 2022
Delivered: May 28, 2022
AOR: June 13, 2022
ECAS Update: June 14, 2022
Background check: Complete (for one)-July 15th, 2022
FP Request: August 9th, 2022

Test Invite: August 9th ( To be completed btw Aug 15th - Sept 5th)
Test Taken-Aug. 15th 2022
Test Status updated to Completed-Aug 22 2022
FP Request: August 9th, 2022
FP Submitted Aug 11th( Status-'waiting on you")
 

Tommy2581

Hero Member
May 15, 2017
207
192
Location: Brampton
Physical Days: 1307
Method: Paper
Applicants: Family (2 Adults, 1 Minor)
Application sent: April 30, 2022
Delivered: May 6, 2022
AOR : May 31, 2022
Ghost Update: June 22, 2022
Background Verification Completed: June 24, 2022
Citizenship Test Invite: July 14, 2022 (Test between July 18 - August 7)
Test Taken: July 28, 2022
Test Status updated in the System: July 29, 2022
Language Skill Completed: Aug 3, 2022
Physical Presence Completed: Aug 3, 2022
Prohibitions Completed: Aug 3, 2022
Decision Made on eCAS: Aug 18, 2022
Citizenship Ceremony: In Progress
Oath Scheduled on: Sep 1, 2022
(Yet to receive the official email about Citizenship Ceremony details)
Location: Brampton
Physical Days: 1307
Method: Paper
Applicants: Family (2 Adults, 1 Minor)
Application sent: April 30, 2022
Delivered: May 6, 2022
AOR : May 31, 2022
Ghost Update: June 22, 2022
Background Verification Completed: June 24, 2022
Citizenship Test Invite: July 14, 2022 (Test between July 18 - August 7)
Test Taken: July 28, 2022
Test Status updated in the System: July 29, 2022
Language Skill Completed: Aug 3, 2022
Physical Presence Completed: Aug 3, 2022
Prohibitions Completed: Aug 3, 2022
Decision Made on eCAS: Aug 18, 2022
Citizenship Ceremony: In Progress
Oath Scheduled on: Sep 1, 2022
Virtual Oath Ceremony email received on: Aug 23, 2022 (from Mississauga office)