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Jul 5, 2020
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AOR May 25th, CEC Inland.
Just got my Biometrics letter (July 15th) and I now see a progress bar at 28% completion. Estimated completion date is Nov 25th. However, my medical has not changed and still says ‘you do not need a medical exam’. Hopefully this updates soon!
AOR- 25TH MAY
MEDICAL PASSED-15TH JULY
BIOMETRICS(DONE PREVIOUSLY FOR TRV) UPLOADED ON-15TH JULY
BIOMETRICS REQUEST FOR EE-15TH JULY
GHOST UPDATE-16TH JULY
PROGRESS BAR SHOWS-29%
 

sauravsharma

Member
May 14, 2016
15
2
Hi guys, is VFS India open for biometrics?

AOR-10th may, FSW-O
Medicals passed and I already uploaded the additional family info form.

Now i received biometrics request. any idea where biometrics can be done in India?
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
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mlj1992

Star Member
Feb 25, 2020
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I am also AOR MAY, 25TH. What does your progres bar shows you now? on July 17th?
My progress bar is currently showing 30% with the estimated completion date November 25th. But I think this just counts the time that has passed since AOR and doesn’t necessarily mean that my application is 30% processed.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
My progress bar is currently showing 30% with the estimated completion date November 25th. But I think this just counts the time that has passed since AOR and doesn’t necessarily mean that my application is 30% processed.
You are correct, the progress bar just shows the time elapsed and has nothing to do with the actual processing of your application.
 

asdfghj

Hero Member
Aug 29, 2019
211
100
Hi ...AOR:May 8: I got my GCMC notes. Nothing much in the notes. R10 passed. Primary office CIO,Secondary Office :CPC Ottawa.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Hi ...AOR:May 8: I got my GCMC notes. Nothing much in the notes. R10 passed. Primary office CIO,Secondary Office :CPC Ottawa.
In the last 3 months not much processing has happened.
 

asdfghj

Hero Member
Aug 29, 2019
211
100
In the last 3 months not much processing has happened.
Yes Actually The date in the GCMC notes is 2 July 2020. In which eligibility is not started.

But July 15 webform :
The responsible office is currently verifying if your application meets the eligibility requirements under the immigration program for which you have applied,
o you may be contacted via your account if additional information is needed.


I was not sure when I will get GCMS so I had raised the webform as well. It seems after 2nd july my eligibility review started.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Yes Actually The date in the GCMC notes is 2 July 2020. In which eligibility is not started.

But July 15 webform :
The responsible office is currently verifying if your application meets the eligibility requirements under the immigration program for which you have applied,
o you may be contacted via your account if additional information is needed.


I was not sure when I will get GCMS so I had raised the webform as well. It seems after 2nd july my eligibility review started.
Eligibility takes place in two stages. First a case analyst / assistant will review your documents and make a recommendation. This can be recommended passed, review required, met etc. Then an officer will review it and make a final determination. Only after the officer makes a final determination, is the eligibility finally passed. Only after the eligibility is passed, will the security commence.

Reporting some of my old posts which will help:

When to order GCMS notes?
The GCMS refer to the programmed called Global Case Management System (GCMS) used by IRCC that holds the entire processing record of your application, including the the notes pertaining to eligibility by an officer evaluating your file.

All applications go through the following stages:

R10
Medicals
Criminality
Eligibility
Security

R10 or the completeness check is the first stage of the processing, wherein it is verified that your application is complete and all documents are submitted. Filing a complete application is the responsibility of the application, and if a document is missing, a reason and an exemption request should be filed.

If an application is incomplete, it will be rejected. R10 usually happens within 30-45 days of filing your application, around the time when medicals are passed. The exact date will be available in your GCMS notes.

There is no point requesting GCMS notes at this stage, since if your application is incomplete, it will be rejected anyway, and for the medicals, the MyCIC account does inform you of when your meds are passed.

GCMS notes become important only for the eligibility stage, which does not start until 3-4 months. Eligibility takes place in 2 stages. First a case assistant or an analyst will review and make a recommendation. This is then reviewed by an officer who makes the final decision on the eligibility. Since each document you submitted has to be reviewed twice, this is the most time consuming stage.

Only for this stage are the GCMS notes relevant. While GCMS is a great tool, use it sparingly and only after 3-4 months have expired.

See https://bit.ly/30CAjL8

Understanding “Review Required”
A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, there will be a review required for the eligibility, and there will be no text to the effect “ready to finalize” or pass. The note will specifically state job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.

There are just some of the scenarios.

Hope this helps.
 
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asdfghj

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Eligibility takes place in two stages. First a case analyst / assistant will review your documents and make a recommendation. This can be recommended passed, review required, met etc. Then an officer will review it and make a final determination. Only after the officer makes a final determination, is the eligibility finally passed. Only after the eligibility is passed, will the security commence.

Reporting some of my old posts which will help:
Thank you so much !!!!!
 
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Nkrana

Star Member
Jun 18, 2020
119
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Hi all,
Category: Express entry BCPNP inland applicant
AOR 30 May
Medicals passed 20 july
BIL 20 July
Processing bar is indicating that 29% time has elapsed
I am unable to understand if they will still start the eligibility review in the absence of Biometrics.
Though my profile is reflecting my biometrics from work permit application.
Can anyone give me some information on this topic: pr processing without biometrics ? Will the processing stop till the time biometrics are submitted? Thanks
 

Nkrana

Star Member
Jun 18, 2020
119
22
Hi all, my second question: does getting a BIL letter/ medicals passed means R10 check passed. If so, will they send me any letter for that which should be used in BOWP? Many Thanks
@legalfalcon please help.