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Marrying fiance from Poland in Toronto and PR

eric8069

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Rob_TO said:
In Ontario you don't get OHIP with the open work permit from an inland application. Also the work permit will be pretty useless for her since she''ll get it so close to her due date.

So if they came here to get married and apply inland, they would most likely have to pay for the pregnancy and delivery costs out of pocket. It makes more sense for them to apply outland while she's in Poland still, and come to Canada after PR is approved.
Probably you are true and I am not sure about Ontario. However, I got mine SIN number and health card in Alberta with the same open work permit. For her might be situation will be different.
 

mega_option101

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I am Canadian and married a Polish national as well.

She was in Canada on a work permit, we got married and then she got pregnant and we both decided that the best option for us would be for her to deliver our baby in Poland (all her family was there and the medical visits here were already starting to cost us a lot due to her not having any insurance). She flew back to Poland when she was 6 months pregnant and I joined her there a month before our due date (we were separated and this was also hard on both of us so I understand the situation you find yourselves in). Let me know if you have any questions.

We applied for our daughter's Canadian Citizenship in Warsaw. I sent in all the paperwork in the beginning of September (2015) and we only got a decision made in the beginning of December (2015) - we received her Canadian Certificate at the Embassy at the end of January (2016). Keep in mind it took some additional time for us as I am a Canadian Citizen, but was born in Germany (father was a Crown Servant at the time of my birth, so I needed to submit proof he was deployed abroad at the time of my birth).

Her Polish Passport took 2 weeks to get done from the time we applied for it - was very quick and easy.

Let me know if you have any other questions :) - I would highly recommend that you get married (legally), and then you can apply for temporary residence in Poland based on the fact that you are married to a Polish National. We did this as I was planning on being there longer than the allowed 3 months (without a visa). Applied in September 2015 and also got a decision made in December 2015. Got my temporary card in February 2016. Just be patient with this process as it is very long and takes a lot of time. I can tell you our experience in private if you like.

We came back to Canada in February 2016. My daughter had her temporary Canadian Passport and my wife had her Polish one. She got a 6 months visitor visa for Canada granted by the CBSA upon our arrival. We just recently applied for Outland PR for her.

I hope this helps you out and if you need me to explain something more indepth, then please let me know.

Kindly,

mega_option101
 

bb4557

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Thanks a lot!

I'm unsure what is the case for the child whose one parent is a Canadian citizen. I'm not a Canadian by birth but I am a naturalized citizen since 2014. Will my child born outside of Canada be a Canadian citizen? If the child get citizenship automatically, that will be better I guess.

I've already talked to someone from the Polish consulate and inquired about a visa. I was told that I can apply for a National visa and it will be a two step process, my fiance/wife submitting an invitation letter and then I apply and usually takes 21 days at max to process.

I'm trying not to rush things and stress her out. So the plan is to get married in April as she will be taking a sick leave (Poland is great for pregnant woman :) ), apply for PR and stay together in Toronto for a month or two. Then I head to Poland for about 6 months in September. Crossing my fingers though, my boss might not like me working remotely for so long! Well I can always take a paternity leave if he refuses :p. I hope an outland PR will finalize by the end of the year. Good thing is that she'll have a job lined up, as she'll be transferring her location from Warsaw to Toronto. If only she was eligible to work here, none of this will be a problem.
 

mega_option101

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Feb 5, 2016
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Warsaw
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
11-02-2016
Nomination.....
CSQ: 22-04-2016
AOR Received.
17-03-2016
File Transfer...
21-03-2016
Med's Done....
14-01-2016
Passport Req..
25-05-2016
VISA ISSUED...
01-06-2016
LANDED..........
02-06-2016
bb4557 said:
Thanks a lot!

I'm unsure what is the case for the child whose one parent is a Canadian citizen. I'm not a Canadian by birth but I am a naturalized citizen since 2014. Will my child born outside of Canada be a Canadian citizen? If the child get citizenship automatically, that will be better I guess.

I've already talked to someone from the Polish consulate and inquired about a visa. I was told that I can apply for a National visa and it will be a two step process, my fiance/wife submitting an invitation letter and then I apply and usually takes 21 days at max to process.

I'm trying not to rush things and stress her out. So the plan is to get married in April as she will be taking a sick leave (Poland is great for pregnant woman :) ), apply for PR and stay together in Toronto for a month or two. Then I head to Poland for about 6 months in September. Crossing my fingers though, my boss might not like me working remotely for so long! Well I can always take a paternity leave if he refuses :p. I hope an outland PR will finalize by the end of the year. Good thing is that she'll have a job lined up, as she'll be transferring her location from Warsaw to Toronto. If only she was eligible to work here, none of this will be a problem.
Have a look here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=365&top=5

Were you born outside of Canada? What are the circumstances of you being born outside of Canada?

If my father would not have been a Crown Servant at the time I was born in Germany, then I would not have been able to pass my Canadian Citizenship to my daughter (actually, my daughter received her Citizenship through her Grandfather and not through me - her father - can you believe this!). Keep this in mind for your child.

In either case, you will need to apply for your child's Proof of Citizenship. However, if you were born abroad and none of your parents worked for the Government of Canada at the time of your birth, then you will not be able to pass on your Citizenship to your child born abroad. Thus, you may need to sponsor your child as well.
 

jomz

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bb4557 said:
Thanks a lot!

I'm unsure what is the case for the child whose one parent is a Canadian citizen. I'm not a Canadian by birth but I am a naturalized citizen since 2014. Will my child born outside of Canada be a Canadian citizen? If the child get citizenship automatically, that will be better I guess.

I've already talked to someone from the Polish consulate and inquired about a visa. I was told that I can apply for a National visa and it will be a two step process, my fiance/wife submitting an invitation letter and then I apply and usually takes 21 days at max to process.

I'm trying not to rush things and stress her out. So the plan is to get married in April as she will be taking a sick leave (Poland is great for pregnant woman :) ), apply for PR and stay together in Toronto for a month or two. Then I head to Poland for about 6 months in September. Crossing my fingers though, my boss might not like me working remotely for so long! Well I can always take a paternity leave if he refuses :p. I hope an outland PR will finalize by the end of the year. Good thing is that she'll have a job lined up, as she'll be transferring her location from Warsaw to Toronto. If only she was eligible to work here, none of this will be a problem.
Yes your baby will be a Canadian citizen. Once the child is born you will need to apply for the baby's citizenship certificate.
 

mega_option101

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Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
11-02-2016
Nomination.....
CSQ: 22-04-2016
AOR Received.
17-03-2016
File Transfer...
21-03-2016
Med's Done....
14-01-2016
Passport Req..
25-05-2016
VISA ISSUED...
01-06-2016
LANDED..........
02-06-2016
jomz said:
Yes your baby will be a Canadian citizen. Once the child is born you will need to apply for the baby's citizenship certificate.
Sorry, Where did you come by this information?
 

bb4557

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mega_option101 said:
Have a look here: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?qnum=365&top=5

Were you born outside of Canada? What are the circumstances of you being born outside of Canada?

If my father would not have been a Crown Servant at the time I was born in Germany, then I would not have been able to pass my Canadian Citizenship to my daughter (actually, my daughter received her Citizenship through her Grandfather and not through me - her father - can you believe this!). Keep this in mind for your child.

In either case, you will need to apply for your child's Proof of Citizenship. However, if you were born abroad and none of your parents worked for the Government of Canada at the time of your birth, then you will not be able to pass on your Citizenship to your child born abroad. Thus, you may need to sponsor your child as well.
Looks like your case was different. Bill C37 is the shit here, you couldn't pass on citizenship to your daughter until you proved that your parent(s) were employed by the government and employed outside of Canada. Cause for your case you got the citizenship through them and your daughter is the subsequent second generation born outside Canada (gotta love the lawyers to word these!). That is not naturalized nor granted by birth in Canada. You got your citizenship because your parents were Canadians. Now if your dad didn't work for the government overseas you will not be able to pass on the citizenship to your daughter. This bill was made so that people who want to be Canadians should keep their asses in Canada or if they work overseas they work for the government.

My children were born on or after April 17, 2009

Your children will only be Canadian at birth if you:

were born in Canada, or
became a naturalized Canadian citizen before they were born. (If you were adopted, see the exception below.)


http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/citizenship/rules_2009.asp
This means that, in general, persons who were not already Canadian citizens immediately before April 17, 2009 and who were born outside Canada to a Canadian parent are not Canadian if:

their Canadian parent was also born outside Canada to a Canadian parent (the person is therefore the second or subsequent generation born outside Canada), or
their Canadian parent was granted Canadian citizenship under section 5.1, the adoption provisions of the Citizenship Act (the person is therefore the second generation born outside Canada)


So in my case I'm a naturalized citizen therefore I can apply for my child. But if my grandchild born outside Canada will not be able to get it. Only for the first generation.