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Marriage of convenience

Omyomyomy

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Apr 2, 2018
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Hi All

This is quite an urgent matter.

We lost our Mom to cancer in late September of 2017.
My father who is almost 80years old traveled to his home country of Pakistan this year in February and has just informed us he's getting married to a woman who is my mother's niece! I have to mention that while my mom was alive she would send money to her niece via western union to help her (my mom helped a few of her relatives as was possible for her) I always felt uneasy about this because other family members would tell my Mom that she's being taken advantage of but my mom was just a very giving and religious person so that influenced her choices greatly. While the news of their marriage is a shock itself I'm just as concerned about the woman's intentions. She is around 60 or 65 years old. She has been widowed for a couple of years and she has adult children, one of whom is her married daughter with 3 kids that lives with her. When I spoke to her and expressed my concern that it seemed a bit weird to be marrying a man she's called "uncle" for the last 50 years, she began to say that it's not a romantic situation, that she "just" wants to live in Canada and not to worry because she will manage herself once she get here and she will eventually find her own place so her kids can somehow get here as well!!! NATURALLY I got really angry and told her she can't do that! I tried my best to explain to her that it's fraud, it's illegal and unethical to use someone like that. She said my dad's an old man and he has feelings for her and it's perfectly fine to basically (YUCK) let him have what he wants and she gets what she wants. I had a huge argument with this woman and things turned ugly quite quickly. I've been harassed by her and her daughters via phone calls at all hours. I made the mistake of telling them I would file a report about this and she's threatening me and my children with physical harm now (my kids are toddlers!) I've told my father exactly what her plans are and how im being harassed (and my sisters have also been harassed by them) and he didn't believe me, he thinks I don't want him to "be happy". Wtf. I've offered to set him up on singles sites if he really wants but I tried to make him understand that at this age sponsoring someone from Pakistan doesn't seem very wise and because it's barely been 6 months since my mom passed I really and sincerely feel he's being taken advantage of! Please if you have any advice or suggestions as to what I should be doing to protect not just him but my own family! I don't know how much any of these details matter to immigration.
 

Rob_TO

VIP Member
Nov 7, 2012
11,426
1,551
Toronto
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
Seoul, Korea
App. Filed.......
13-07-2012
AOR Received.
18-08-2012
File Transfer...
21-08-2012
Med's Done....
Sent with App
Passport Req..
N/R - Exempt
VISA ISSUED...
30-10-2012
LANDED..........
16-11-2012
Please if you have any advice or suggestions as to what I should be doing to protect not just him but my own family! I don't know how much any of these details matter to immigration.
The details matter a lot. Any visa officer may see this as a marriage of convenience anyways since there are tons of red flags, and there is a good chance their app would be refused.

You can also write a simple letter to IRCC informing them. If some of your communication with her was via email with records, you could forward them that as further evidence.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/protect-fraud/report-fraud.html
 
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Omyomyomy

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Apr 2, 2018
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Hi All

This is quite an urgent matter.

We lost our Mom to cancer in late September of 2017.
My father who is almost 80years old traveled to his home country of Pakistan this year in February and has just informed us he's getting married to a woman who is my mother's niece! I have to mention that while my mom was alive she would send money to her niece via western union to help her (my mom helped a few of her relatives as was possible for her) I always felt uneasy about this because other family members would tell my Mom that she's being taken advantage of but my mom was just a very giving and religious person so that influenced her choices greatly. While the news of their marriage is a shock itself I'm just as concerned about the woman's intentions. She is around 60 or 65 years old. She has been widowed for a couple of years and she has adult children, one of whom is her married daughter with 3 kids that lives with her. When I spoke to her and expressed my concern that it seemed a bit weird to be marrying a man she's called "uncle" for the last 50 years, she began to say that it's not a romantic situation, that she "just" wants to live in Canada and not to worry because she will manage herself once she get here and she will eventually find her own place so her kids can somehow get here as well!!! NATURALLY I got really angry and told her she can't do that! I tried my best to explain to her that it's fraud, it's illegal and unethical to use someone like that. She said my dad's an old man and he has feelings for her and it's perfectly fine to basically (YUCK) let him have what he wants and she gets what she wants. I had a huge argument with this woman and things turned ugly quite quickly. I've been harassed by her and her daughters via phone calls at all hours. I made the mistake of telling them I would file a report about this and she's threatening me and my children with physical harm now (my kids are toddlers!) I've told my father exactly what her plans are and how im being harassed (and my sisters have also been harassed by them) and he didn't believe me, he thinks I don't want him to "be happy". Wtf. I've offered to set him up on singles sites if he really wants but I tried to make him understand that at this age sponsoring someone from Pakistan doesn't seem very wise and because it's barely been 6 months since my mom passed I really and sincerely feel he's being taken advantage of! Please if you have any advice or suggestions as to what I should be doing to protect not just him but my own family! I don't know how much any of these details matter to immigration.
Also she thinks she can just show up in Canada and somehow qualify for a pension and benefits?!?!?!?!?!
Hi All

This is quite an urgent matter.

We lost our Mom to cancer in late September of 2017.
My father who is almost 80years old traveled to his home country of Pakistan this year in February and has just informed us he's getting married to a woman who is my mother's niece! I have to mention that while my mom was alive she would send money to her niece via western union to help her (my mom helped a few of her relatives as was possible for her) I always felt uneasy about this because other family members would tell my Mom that she's being taken advantage of but my mom was just a very giving and religious person so that influenced her choices greatly. While the news of their marriage is a shock itself I'm just as concerned about the woman's intentions. She is around 60 or 65 years old. She has been widowed for a couple of years and she has adult children, one of whom is her married daughter with 3 kids that lives with her. When I spoke to her and expressed my concern that it seemed a bit weird to be marrying a man she's called "uncle" for the last 50 years, she began to say that it's not a romantic situation, that she "just" wants to live in Canada and not to worry because she will manage herself once she get here and she will eventually find her own place so her kids can somehow get here as well!!! NATURALLY I got really angry and told her she can't do that! I tried my best to explain to her that it's fraud, it's illegal and unethical to use someone like that. She said my dad's an old man and he has feelings for her and it's perfectly fine to basically (YUCK) let him have what he wants and she gets what she wants. I had a huge argument with this woman and things turned ugly quite quickly. I've been harassed by her and her daughters via phone calls at all hours. I made the mistake of telling them I would file a report about this and she's threatening me and my children with physical harm now (my kids are toddlers!) I've told my father exactly what her plans are and how im being harassed (and my sisters have also been harassed by them) and he didn't believe me, he thinks I don't want him to "be happy". Wtf. I've offered to set him up on singles sites if he really wants but I tried to make him understand that at this age sponsoring someone from Pakistan doesn't seem very wise and because it's barely been 6 months since my mom passed I really and sincerely feel he's being taken advantage of! Please if you have any advice or suggestions as to what I should be doing to protect not just him but my own family! I don't know how much any of these details matter to immigration.

I should mention my dad lives on his pension and has been retired for some years but he's not financially stable, as my sister helps pay his rent. This all is insane and makes no sense
 

Omyomyomy

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Apr 2, 2018
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The details matter a lot. Any visa officer may see this as a marriage of convenience anyways since there are tons of red flags, and there is a good chance their app would be refused.

You can also write a simple letter to IRCC informing them. If some of your communication with her was via email with records, you could forward them that as further evidence.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/protect-fraud/report-fraud.html
Thank you!!
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
97,282
23,112
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
She won't qualify for a pension. There are residency requirements she doesn't meet for this.

However if she is successful in getting PR, there's technically nothing stopping her from going on social assistance / welfare - in which case your father would be required to pay this money back to the government for the first three years after he lands..

Agreed the best option is to submit, something to IRCC using the contact info in the link above if and when your father submits a sponsorship application. I personally wouldn't do it now. I would wait to see if he actually sponsors her.

Find a way to record the harassing phone calls and retain these recordings as evidence. If at all possible, find a way to move these conversations to email. Better evidence.
 

Omyomyomy

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Apr 2, 2018
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At best I could try to record the phone calls. These people don't do email so I don't know how to get it in writing
 

Drviki23

Member
Jun 17, 2017
10
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hi all
need your support urgently. I signed my marriage contract in june 2016 and finally started living togther in april 2018 (typical Nikah and rukhsai scene ). My express entry profile was created after my Nikah, due o my ielts score however I consulted a lawyer before my marriage contract and my immigration (WES and other documentation ) were under process. Please note that I was the primary applicant in my profile, and majore points were mine only. we got selected and went to toronto in april 2018 and landed as PRs. I stayed there for two months and came back to dubai and she left for pakistan after 3 months. we started havng fights and now she is asking for divorce . I am just confused was it 'marriage of convenience' just to get PR card, as her degree was not asseseed and she wasn doing any effort for it. all of efforts were mine ? can i still file a 'marriage of convenience ' case agaisnt her. I am in doubt that she will put false allegations (voilence)against me once she comes back to canada, which is practically nto true as i m not living with her.
please suggest ASAP
 

Drviki23

Member
Jun 17, 2017
10
0
hi
need urgent advise:
Hi

I signed my marriage contract in 2016 june and finally got married (start living together )in April 2018.

I hired a lawyer for my immigration purpose before june 2016 and at the time of signing, my documentation was already under process. I was the primary application and all efforts including funding and lawyer fee was paid by me.

After marriage in april 2018, we landed Toronto in as PRs and there we stayed for two months, after which I came back to Dubai and she went to Pakistan. After reaching Pakstan, she started asking for divorce. As per her. She cannot live with me any more.

Now I believe that this was marrage of conveience as she herself alone couldnot get Canadian PR.

Secondly I doubt that she might put false allegation on me once she is back to Canada.

Please advice if this case can be a case of marriage of convenience.

What should I do in case of allegations

Regards