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Mainting PR status for Citizenship while outside Canada

chakrab

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inventov said:
I guess this is true until they change the residency definition, to 183 days a year.. :?
That's only for citizenship application, in which case your staying in europe won't make much of a difference. no rule changes for PR has been proposed yet.
 

inventov

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chakrab said:
OPTION 1. Accompanying a Canadian citizen outside Canada

You may count each day that you accompanied a Canadian citizen outside Canada provided that the person you accompanied is your spouse, common-law partner or parent (if you are a child under 22 years of age).

Evidence required

You must provide supporting documents to prove that:

The person you are accompanying is a Canadian citizen; and
You are the spouse, common-law partner or child of that person.
Supporting documents may include:

marriage license or evidence of common-law partnership (mandatory if you are accompanying a spouse or common-law partner)
child's birth certificate, baptismal document, or adoption or guardianship document (mandatory if you are accompanying a parent)
all passports or other travel documents of the person you are accompanying used in the five (5) years before the application (mandatory)
school or employment records
association or club memberships
documents showing the citizenship of the person you are accompanying, including the date the person became a Canadian citizen (mandatory)
evidence of the residential addresses of the person you are accompanying for the five (5) years before the application (mandatory)
any other documents that you want to have considered
Hey, chakrab, this is very useful information. Thanks, mate!
 

canuck_in_uk

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As said above, the 183 days per year refers to the citizenship residency obligation, not the PR residency obligation.

She can stay out of Canada for the next few years without you and still be able to meet the PR RO. She needs to make sure that anytime she looks back to the previous 5 years, at least 730 days were spent in Canada.
 

nptfdo

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So if I am understanding this correctly, if a Canadian PR works outside Canada for a Canadian company, his/her days would be countedtowards PR residency but not towards citizenship. Please correct if I am wrong.
So, you can maintain your PR status if you stay outside Canada (while working for a Canadian company or accompanying a Canadian citizen/PR spouse) but can't qualify for the residency requirement for citizenship. That's sort of unfair :(
 

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nptfdo said:
So if I am understanding this correctly, if a Canadian PR works outside Canada for a Canadian company, his/her days would be countedtowards PR residency but not towards citizenship. Please correct if I am wrong.
So, you can maintain your PR status if you stay outside Canada (while working for a Canadian company or accompanying a Canadian citizen/PR spouse) but can't qualify for the residency requirement for citizenship. That's sort of unfair :(
It's not at all unfair. CIC is trying to prevent people from becoming Canadian citizens without ever having actually lived in Canada.

They do have an exception for a PR accompanying a Canadian spouse or common-law partner working for the public service of Canada, a province/territory or employed in or with the Canadian armed forces during that time. The PR can count those days outside Canada towards citizenship.

Also, there are very strict rules to qualify as working for a Canadian company abroad. Many people have tried to take advantage of this, doing things such as starting their own business in Canada, leaving the country and then claiming that they are working abroad for said company.
 

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nptfdo said:
So, you can maintain your PR status if you stay outside Canada (while working for a Canadian company or accompanying a Canadian citizen/PR spouse) but can't qualify for the residency requirement for citizenship. That's sort of unfair :(
They are basically saying the commitment required to be a citizen is more than what is needed to remain a PR. It's hard to argue with that logic.
 

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Thank you for the useful information in this thread. So let me see if I understand correctly, I am a Canadian citizen and my wife is PR. I have just had a a 3 year offer at research institution overseas. My wife can accompany me and the time will count towards her PR 730 day count in the future, so we could renew her PR without issues, but we couldn't use any of that time for the citizenship count. However, if the federal government sent me to the same research institution on secondment it would probably count towards her citizenship day count?
 

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Gumby749 said:
I have just had a a 3 year offer at research institution overseas. My wife can accompany me and the time will count towards her PR 730 day count in the future, so we could renew her PR without issues, but we couldn't use any of that time for the citizenship count.
Yes

Gumby749 said:
However, if the federal government sent me to the same research institution on secondment it would probably count towards her citizenship day count?
Unlikely. Now if it was her that was offered the position, then maybe.

They have been some rare cases where PRs have had days accompanying canadian spouses working abroad count to citizenship but they are rare exceptions (I think canadian military stationed abroad for some critical missions). Anyway CIC is extremely tough when it comes to citizenship residency days.
 

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keesio said:
Yes

Unlikely. Now if it was her that was offered the position, then maybe.

They have been some rare cases where PRs have had days accompanying canadian spouses working abroad count to citizenship but they are rare exceptions (I think canadian military stationed abroad for some critical missions). Anyway CIC is extremely tough when it comes to citizenship residency days.
Hmmm, okay, you've given my some ideas to research a bit more - thank you for the feedback.
 

Joymag83

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Good day Sir (inventor),
May I know what happened to this application? Thank you. It would be of great help.