It might not have any impact but you must inform CIC about employment status changes.Hariboy said:My Job was not LMIA approved. I got ITA but now lost my job. No change in points obviously. SHould I attach a letter explaining it or am i good?
It might not have any impact but you must inform CIC about employment status changes.Hariboy said:My Job was not LMIA approved. I got ITA but now lost my job. No change in points obviously. SHould I attach a letter explaining it or am i good?
That is exactly what I was explaining. No, you are not required to continue holding the LMIA job until landing.Asivad Anac said:Partly correct.
If loss of that job means that the recalculated CRS score falls below the cutoff for the draw that got them the ITA but the applicant continue to meet program eligibility, the application will still be refused. Of course, scores wouldn't be automatically recalculated and that would happen only if one informs IRCC about the loss of job. If one hides that information from IRCC, that would be misrepresentation.
LMIA supported job offers must be alive at least till one 'lands' in Canada as the entire PR application is contingent upon those additional points (in most cases).
Quick question here - what was your CRS at the time of getting an ITA and what was the draw cutoff?fkl said:That is exactly what I was explaining. No, you are not required to continue holding the LMIA job until landing.
I have done extensive research on this (before actually doing it) and confirming from CIC. "Change in circumstances after eApr" section of express entry details on CIC website describes this clearly.
Once you scored points, got ITA and submitted application, your LMIA job has to be valid at the time of applying (eApr).
If you loose / leave that job latter, they will NOT RECALCULATE your points. Since the circumstances changed AFTER eApr. It would only matter if I loose CEC's qualification for some reason.
I have done precisely that and kept CIC well informed i.e. had an LMIA job that I was working on, had another LMIA exempt job offer THAT I intended to join latter. I submitted my application stating all this, latter, several months after submission, I got a new LMIA exempt work permit, joined the new job and again informed CIC of all change of conditions and now I am through with the whole process. PPR was at least several months AFTER joining the new job, address update etc.
Besides, I already SHOWED this in my intent that I would not continue the LMIA job latter.
If needed, I can quote (with a little bit of effort looking at my materials), explaining this scenario precisely.
So - no - if you lost your LMIA job AFTER eApr, it won't result in recalculation of your score. period.
Hope that helps.
Sure - by any means I would not have made it if this was not the rule. 824 at ITA, draw cut off was around 460ish something. I never did ECA or any thing since it was not needed in my scenario.Asivad Anac said:Quick question here - what was your CRS at the time of getting an ITA and what was the draw cutoff?
Interesting!fkl said:Sure - by any means I would not have made it if this was not the rule. 824 at ITA, draw cut off was around 460ish something. I never did ECA or any thing since it was not needed in my scenario.
I also updated the reference in my earlier post.
And yes, there have been other cases: In one where the applicant got laid off 3 months after eApr, as far I know - he informed CIC right away and was approved.
Another friend actually had resigned his LMIA job before landing and informed CIC while landing at a CIC office in Ottawa to use his new address and clearly explained he is joining new non LMIA based job now.
No worries - I fully understand your point and the possibility of abuse in such scenarios. It's important that you know this, since you are doing an incredible job helping out lots and lots of people - spending far more time and energy than I ever could here.Asivad Anac said:Interesting!
Given that LMIAs are in short supply, it's not as if this knowledge can be abused by applicants but the possibility exists. So one only needs to have an LMIA supported job offer till one submits their post ITA application and then not need it anymore!
Would that apply to PNs as well? If one loses a job in BC (and the PN from BC was contingent on that job) after submitting the post ITA application, that would make no difference to the PR application provided the applicant continued to meet the program eligibility?
Thanks for correcting me there, fkl.
No impact.abhay.sudhakaran said:Thanks for the response guys.
So here is my condition:
I am on open work-permit (which does not require an LMIA)
My current job offer is based on my open work permit
My express entry PR application (under FSWP) is currently in progress (Undergoing document completeness check)
Will losing my current job, have an impact on my PR application ? because I know that CIC mentions we need to inform them in case there is a loss of job offer.
Thanks for the response, but I am curious why they would ask me for a change in status such as loss of job if it had no impact.Asivad Anac said:No impact.
That's the whole point of the debate fkl and I had on this thread and apparently IRCC only wants to be informed of job loss to ensure that nobody is trying to 'play' the system. That wouldn't matter if you have an LMIA exempt job or any job outside Canada because having (or losing) that job makes no difference to your points after submitting the post ITA application. You're awarded points for program eligibility and/or CRS based on your past work experience not present and future work experience.abhay.sudhakaran said:Thanks for the response, but I am curious why they would ask me for a change in status such as loss of job if it had no impact.
When I first got my ITA, I had met all the criteria under FSWP like more than 1 year of continues work experience and all other requirements.
But my concerns is that the application is based on the fact that I have a valid job offer (which was attached and submitted with the application - current in process).
Now if I lose a job offer and even if I get another job within a matter of weeks, I am a little worried how that will impact the document evaluation process.
My Express Entry Score breakdown - Total 461:
CRS - Age (95)
CRS - Level of Education (126)
CRS - Official Language Profiency (105)
CRS - Canadian Work Experience (35)
CRS - Skill Transferability - Education (50)
CRS - Skill Transferability - Foreign Work Experience (50)
Yes. It stands for Electronic Application for Permanent Residence.SecularFirst said:Is the eAPR the same form that we fill out online after getting ITA and later get AOR for ?? Please excuse my ignorance on these matters.
If this was genuine employment, there is nothing incriminating your manager can testify against you that will cause IRCC to doubt this employment. Even if you 'used' the job purely for CEC eligibility, that doesn't take away anything from the employment. IRCC may call the employer for verification only if they aren't satisfied with the documentation submitted along with your application but their conversation with your manager would be only about the documentation submitted as part of your application. Your manager can choose to rant and rave about how they feel 'cheated' or 'let down' but that won't make the slightest difference to IRCC or your PR application.RegularGuy said:Hello Asivad Anac. Thanks for extending your tireless help to all of the forum members.
I have a quick question, I am on PGWP and have submitted my application under CEC last week. I was solely doing this job in Canada for permanent residency and now leaving this job for further studies in US. I told my Manager about leaving this job and he was not very happy. He felt like I have used him and the job for PR purposes. This job doesn't match my career goals and expectations so I did it unwillingly for 13 months just to be eligible for CEC.
I have told my manager that he may receive a call from CIC to confirm my employment with him. Now if he give an unfavorable explanation about me to cic, will it affect my PR application?
I have submitted the employee reference letter, pay stubs and T4. Can these items be enough in case my manager screw up anything? my job and all papers are 100% genuine. In other words, I want to know if our applications depend so much on your employers? I am not sure whether he intend to screw it or not bt I am also not 100% that he won't. What's your take on it ?