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Berty3000

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Jan 17, 2017
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I was offered ITA earlier this month with 459 points. I submitted EE profile in late August. I think I might need to decline my current ITA to fix a few niggling issues that might cause me a problem later. Does anybody know whether I will make the next draw if I decline today and quickly fix up my EE profile? I am a little nervous about giving up on my ITA in case I don't get another by August, and the issues I've identified might not be important... tough decision.
 

kryt0n

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Sep 30, 2014
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Very likely to get another ita but no one knows when the next will be.

What are the issues? Are they likely to resolve themselves by the next ita?
 

Berty3000

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Jan 17, 2017
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Issues are -

1. I put down 12 years of work experience, embracing 7 jobs all with the same NOC code, in my EE profile. Realistically, I only needed to put my current and last posts as these amount to 4.5 years foreign experience. I am worried that if I only put forward my current and last posts in the PR app as part of the work experience, it will be treated as incomplete when they looked at my EE profile. It will be very difficult to get the information together for the 5 older jobs; one of them doesn't even exist any more.

2. My current job I am a contractor working for my own company. I have all of the information to show for this. However, I forgot that I had changed the company name 3 months after it started trading in 2016. It is the same company in every respect, just that the name was officially changed and I have the documents to show this. However, on my EE profile I only showed the new name for the whole period. I'm wondering if I should have showed the old name for three months, and then the new name from then onwards to be precise. If I add in the old name on my PR app and include the documents it might cause confusion or appear inconsistent?

These are very minor, niggling details that I could explain in a covering letter and which the immigration service might not be bothered about. But there is no way for me to know, so maybe it is better to quickly decline and fix up EE profile, rather than have problems in a few months? ARGH
 

kryt0n

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Berty3000 said:
Issues are -

1. I put down 12 years of work experience, embracing 7 jobs all with the same NOC code, in my EE profile. Realistically, I only needed to put my current and last posts as these amount to 4.5 years foreign experience. I am worried that if I only put forward my current and last posts in the PR app as part of the work experience, it will be treated as incomplete when they looked at my EE profile. It will be very difficult to get the information together for the 5 older jobs; one of them doesn't even exist any more.

2. My current job I am a contractor working for my own company. I have all of the information to show for this. However, I forgot that I had changed the company name 3 months after it started trading in 2016. It is the same company in every respect, just that the name was officially changed and I have the documents to show this. However, on my EE profile I only showed the new name for the whole period. I'm wondering if I should have showed the old name for three months, and then the new name from then onwards to be precise. If I add in the old name on my PR app and include the documents it might cause confusion or appear inconsistent?

These are very minor, niggling details that I could explain in a covering letter and which the immigration service might not be bothered about. But there is no way for me to know, so maybe it is better to quickly decline and fix up EE profile, rather than have problems in a few months? ARGH
Both of these points are asked frequently here. Foreign work Max's out at e years. Including it in your work history is not necessary. Lots of people remove them post ITA and mention it in an LOE. It's fine. Half of my work is in work history the other half in personal. My LOE will say that I can't find the evidence to support the claim of work experience/it doesn't add EE points.
 

Berty3000

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Jan 17, 2017
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Thanks kryt0n,

On the second point though - if I add the old company name post ITA then it may appear that I've added in work experience that was not in the EE profile. In reality, it was the same company but the name changed in April and I only showed the new name for the whole period in my EE profile. I could add the old name post ITA and explain in an LOE, or leave it as it is, but explain in the LOE that there was an older name and provide the documentation. I'm not sure if I'm making a rod for my own back by complicating things and potentially causing confusion/suspicion to those who screen and then assess later the application.

Or I could decline and get the EE completely straight....
 

vishalg

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I guess you can add an incorporation/ name change certificate along with other work experience docs. I believe this should work
 

kryt0n

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Sep 30, 2014
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Berty3000 said:
Thanks kryt0n,

On the second point though - if I add the old company name post ITA then it may appear that I've added in work experience that was not in the EE profile. In reality, it was the same company but the name changed in April and I only showed the new name for the whole period in my EE profile. I could add the old name post ITA and explain in an LOE, or leave it as it is, but explain in the LOE that there was an older name and provide the documentation. I'm not sure if I'm making a rod for my own back by complicating things and potentially causing confusion/suspicion to those who screen and then assess later the application.

Or I could decline and get the EE completely straight....
Name change won't matter much if you have some evidence of a name change by the company. It's not enough to cause any problems as long as you at least explain it briefly in your LOE.
 

Berty3000

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Jan 17, 2017
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Thanks guys, I will have a think about this.

On a separate note, is there any significance to the Place of Interest part - where it asks you to select a state and city? I'd happy go to different places depending on where I can find work, so a single choice seems quite limited.

Also, is there any problem with changing the amount of money you intend to take post ITA. Like making it lower if a high amount had been put in at EE stage?
 

kryt0n

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Berty3000 said:
Thanks guys, I will have a think about this.

On a separate note, is there any significance to the Place of Interest part - where it asks you to select a state and city? I'd happy go to different places depending on where I can find work, so a single choice seems quite limited.

Also, is there any problem with changing the amount of money you intend to take post ITA. Like making it lower if a high amount had been put in at EE stage?
Just don't select Quebec. Otherwise I think it's just for statistics. But if you're PNP I'd recommend selecting that province.

Changing money is fine as long as you are still above the minimum needed.

Honestly, your queries are substantially less than most people here who have successfully got its. You're fine.
 

Berty3000

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Jan 17, 2017
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One final question - what if I were only to mention in my post ITA app my previous post, which lasted 3.5 year. Same NOC code. That one is easier to gather information and doesn't have the problem of name changes, etc. However, that post ended i early 2015....? Is ti best to include current role as well?
 

kryt0n

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Well my fsw hinges on my job 2010-2012! As long as it's from the last 10 years it's fine. I don't even have my current job on my ita as I'm still on probation! It's all going in my personal history.
 

Berty3000

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Just one last thing... said Columbo... but where does it say in the guidance that the points for foreign work experience maxes out at 3 years of the past 10 years? I cannot see anywhere it refers to in the past ten years. This will help me to decide whether to include my current post or not. Ideally, I will just use my previous post - 3.5 years, 2011-2015, NOC 2153.
 

kryt0n

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In an Express Entry profile, should I only include the minimum work experience needed to qualify for one of the programs, or should I include more?
To qualify for the broadest range of programs, including the Federal Skilled Worker Program, you should include work experience for the last 10 years. We also need this information for an application for permanent residence, no matter which program you are applying under.


Should, not have to.

They want you to add everything so you have the potential to be invited under other programmes so as not to try and trick it into a specific scheme. It's not an issue. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/questions-answers-by-topic.asp?top=29