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Liberal Critic Suggests Cons Might Try to Cancel Pending Citizenship Apps

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How long did your wife had to stay in the UK as a PR?

zardoz said:
I think that a lot of this can be put down to the overly bureaucratic system that is CIC (and many other areas of government). Coming from the UK, I thought that WE were bad... Now I see that this is not the case. My wife obtained British citizenship in just 8 weeks from application date to oath date.
 

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farrous13 said:
How long did your wife had to stay in the UK as a PR?
3 Years if I remember correctly.. That is for the spouse of an existing citizen, otherwise it's 5 years.
 

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zardoz said:
I think that a lot of this can be put down to the overly bureaucratic system that is CIC (and many other areas of government). Coming from the UK, I thought that WE were bad... Now I see that this is not the case. My wife obtained British citizenship in just 8 weeks from application date to oath date.
The process was taking a year or less as recently as the last Liberal government. The current delays/discrepancies are a bizzare combination of bureaucratic mismanagement and political meddling.
 

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it was just an ugly and sneaky ploy to make people pump $$ in waiting in suspense while they can fill up their coffers (using PRs like milch cows) while they go on in parallel with their draconian cuts in govt and get more millions ! Shameful ! This place has sadly gone downhill since the better days - and hope those better days come back come the elections !
 

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us2yow said:
it was just an ugly and sneaky ploy to make people pump $$ in waiting in suspense while they can fill up their coffers (using PRs like milch cows) while they go on in parallel with their draconian cuts in govt and get more millions ! Shameful ! This place has sadly gone downhill since the better days - and hope those better days come back come the elections !
I totally agree with you, and I think that those who are trying to rationalise whatever comes their way are making a huge mistake. The minister in question as well as his boss have to wake up and smell the coffee...I am still waiting for Harper's CLEAR explanation about the senate scandal! Oh, and Canada Post too...
 

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Even 6 months is ridiculous compared to 8 weeks.
For us, if the processing time takes less than a year, everyone will be cheering.

But in reality, it shouldn't even take a year. Not even half a year. If the UK & Australia can do it in less than 6 months, then there is no reason why Canada cant do the same.

links18 said:
The process was taking a year or less as recently as the last Liberal government. The current delays/discrepancies are a bizzare combination of bureaucratic mismanagement and political meddling.
 

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Electioneering in full swing now...lets wait for the Federal Budget on Feb 11th, 2014 it will indicate what goodies are in store for all of us and to get a better view of where citizenship/immigration reform fits in. All the noise around a balanced budget by 2015 which surprise is when the elections are due.

Overall the Feds just need to get enough votes in Ontario and Quebec for a slight majority or failing that a minority government. It would be something if the powers that be come out and said "read my lips - the speed of citizenship processing in Ontario and Quebec has absolutely nothing to do with any forthcoming elections".

Its a no brainer to fix the process: hire more staff especially CJs, go for a pre application test approach (subject to rigid controls to eliminate fraud), mandatory filed taxes submissions, pre-application biometrics, residence = physical presence only except federal/military service, track exits. Fees need to go up too - it costs more to go watch a hockey/football/baseball etc game including refreshments than it does to get Citizenship eh!
 

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yeah with all the scandals and messes lets see how much they remain in favor after all the damage they have done. Change will be very good and much needed !

Ooops...big embarrassment ! Guess people down South will watch this and this ain't the most flattering way of ending up on US news either.

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2014/01/27/stephen-harper-keystone-obama-ad_n_4675439.html?ir=Canada+Politics
 

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One of the biggest advantages and pleasures of acquiring citizenship is to be able to vote against Harper and his gang!
 

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ramsfe said:
One of the biggest advantages and pleasures of acquiring citizenship is to be able to vote against Harper and his gang!
Well, that's you off his Xmas card list :D
 

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zardoz said:
Well, that's you off his Xmas card list :D
And that's an honour my friend!

Christmas is still in a year, and this means that he also is off my christmas list ... hopefully by then, I will proudly sing the following song to remind him how much Canada is bigger than him and his hang :

O Canada! Our home and native land!
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free!
From far and wide,
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
 

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The opposition has to keep second guessing the Feds who have at their helm a proven winner - you lose power its not others that win it is the danger of hubris befalling politicians! Its going to come down to the economy.....the Liberals left a huge surplus...its no more...that would be my opening salvo but I guess the young man at their helm has his cards close to his chest...are they aces one wonders??
 

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He better "ace" it ! ;)

As for the Cons :mad: they are outdoing themselves in becoming increasingly unreasonable, short-sighted, rude, and divisive, making this place look worse by the day.

I guess when you are nervous and afraid and know deep down that you are basically messing with (aka screwing with) the lives of everyday Canadians and to-be Canadians ;D it is very easy for them to become all of the above described unflattering qualities. Yikes ! not a pretty place to be I hear - The Govt these days.
 

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us2yow said:
He better "ace" it ! ;) ...
I guess it also depends on who he will face on the day...much speculation it may be another 'young' un...smart money says the former CIC Minister has the mettle...he got them their majority last time and that from a weaker position (minority) than their lofty majority so he knows what it takes!
 

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Msafiri said:
I guess it also depends on who he will face on the day...much speculation it may be another 'young' un...smart money says the former CIC Minister has the mettle...he got them their majority last time and that from a weaker position (minority) than their lofty majority so he knows what it takes!
If Harper resigns and goes back to Israel, this time to settle in a settlement there, well I will party and probably get drunk ! ( it has been such a long time... university years are far behind me)

http://www.canadianbusiness.com/blogs-and-comment/stephen-harper-will-resign-2014/