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Leaving Canada after applying citizenship

turboracer

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Every single person has their own view and their own point of view every human has their Mobility right from an immigrants perspective getting canadian passport might be the main goal but from a Canadians perspective that's different

Thousands are leaving and thousands will when people can't fight with the oppurtunity


I was just checking people's views

I am canadian citizen as of last Thursday

I got my passport and I left canada :) one day might come or not but I left

Thanks folks for your valuable comments

And a message to @ Arambi what do U think an immigrant or a human would be so dumb lol to leave without the citizenship we can come again actually I am living here and I will live forever in canada I want mobility rights

@ Arambi no offence your view and comment was meaningless and worthless lol

Folks thanks for UR views and advices
 

turboracer

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MUFC said:
No doubt that the government is aware how much new Canadians are leaving the country for good. That's why they try to hold with administrative difficulties those who are pending. They are aware of that big problem.

Why they don't want to show the real numbers... how many people are leaving the country after they get the citizenship... of course they will never publish such a statistic.

They would not change the law if it was about a minority overall number... that means huge chunk of people are leaving constantly... the balance is from those on temporary visas, but if we exclude them and focus only on the new citizens ... but we never gonna see the real ratio. From the reaction of the government that ratio is disturbing which can show that the problem is big.
@ MUFC friend you are absolutely right friend
 

turboracer

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arambi said:
If opportunities are so limited in Canada, why not go where it's better and leave behind Canada and Canadian citizenship?
The point is that even with limited opportunities, Canada is the number 2 or number 3 country in the world in terms of better life for immigrant. People are making much more in the so called low-paying jobs here in Canada than they will make in any other country that is willing to welcome them.

Do what you want to do but you really need to stop whining and instead say thank you to Canada.
Arambi what do U think an immigrant or a human would be so dumb lol to leave without the citizenship we can come again actually I am living here and I will live forever in canada I want mobility rights

@ Arambi no offence your view and comment was meaningless and worthless lol

Folks thanks for UR views and advices
 

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It depends on how motivated you are to be able to be successful in your life here. Canada is no heaven on earth and there's no perfect country in this world either. I'd say it's better that is why i'm happy and contented to where I am. The universe is vast, maybe these people would like to search for a perfect world out there.
 

arambi

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turboracer said:
Every single person has their own view and their own point of view every human has their Mobility right from an immigrants perspective getting canadian passport might be the main goal but from a Canadians perspective that's different

Thousands are leaving and thousands will when people can't fight with the oppurtunity


I was just checking people's views

I am canadian citizen as of last Thursday

I got my passport and I left canada :) one day might come or not but I left

Thanks folks for your valuable comments

And a message to @ Arambi what do U think an immigrant or a human would be so dumb lol to leave without the citizenship we can come again actually I am living here and I will live forever in canada I want mobility rights

@ Arambi no offence your view and comment was meaningless and worthless lol

Folks thanks for UR views and advices
I'm not against getting Canadian and staying or leaving .... I'm just warning thankless people..
Remember, karma hits ungrateful people very hard.... So watch out when you speak badly about Canada while you are getting a very valuable Canadian passport...
 

turboracer

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arambi said:
I'm not against getting Canadian and staying or leaving .... I'm just warning thankless people..
Remember, karma hits ungrateful people very hard.... So watch out when you speak badly about Canada while you are getting a very valuable Canadian passport...
Karma ok U r being crazy friend I left canada lol

Am not there but UR comment is attacking don't appreciate that bye bye
 

arambi

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turboracer said:
Karma ok U r being crazy friend I left canada lol

Am not there but UR comment is attacking don't appreciate that bye bye
You cannot hide from Karma . it will follow you no matter where you go until you abandon wicked behaviour like insulting a country that gives you a valuable passport.
 

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RussCan said:
Crap!!! Everyone from my circle in Calgary (all immigrants) is paid from 150 k per year. I am talking 25 average people at least I know personally. And it's not limited to oil and gas jobs only. Among them are finance analysts, bank workers (senior level), contract and procurement specialists. So please change the record. If someone is a PHd in history or literature (for example) from a third world country who is obviously not competitive in his/her aspirations of acquiring highly paid jobs but still chooses to settle in Vancouver or Montreal instead if going to a place like Fortmcmurry, Calgary, fort saint jones or other less fancy but higher remuneration places - tough luck. Suck it up, accept and do something about it. Something other than never ending whining about discrimination of highly educated immigrants (who of course were of high demand and on big dime back home) by "heartless", "discriminating Canadians".
+1, When I hear people whining, it reminds me of this Video. Even though it is about working out, it applies here too:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN-l6WtB71g
 

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It seems like when the people are leaving disappointed from Canada, they actually start to achieve more success when they go abroad. So why these people should stay in Canada? Maybe the other Canadians are jealous for their upcoming success when they leave Canada.
 

Canuckguytorontotdot

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arambi said:
You cannot hide from Karma . it will follow you no matter where you go until you abandon wicked behaviour like insulting a country that gives you a valuable passport.
Hey yo everyone has their opinion U can just go so aggressive yo this is a forum everyone has their own right and view yo

Peace out man
 

era1521

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RussCan said:
Who said one does not need to have experience in the field of application to be become successful applicant?! I have never implied that. If you are a generalist engineer, for example, without specific area of expertise your chances of getting a well-paid job in the oil and gas – are slim. Add to that an accent (often not fluent English) and they become even slimmer. However, back in his or her country under the same scenario, the chances for success are similarly slim. This is my point. I am a genuine believer that immigrant workers in Canada, by and large, ARE NOT disadvantaged in any form or shape in their endeavors of finding highly paid jobs by prejudice against the mere fact of them being immigrants. The selection criteria is usually (most of the times) meritorious in nature, and is based on what skills the applicant possesses, and most importantly what, if at all, makes him / her to outstand professionally. Such skills include not only and mainly technical expertise but behavioral, managerial, leadership, linguistic (yes, surprise, surprise! - to be highly paid one needs to possess eloquence of speech and presentational skills in ENGLISH! Because this is (for those who forgot) an English speaking country). These are what determines the level of pay bigger and smaller corporations or businesses are willing to offer to the successful candidate. Not where he or she is from. I work amid lots of immigrants from Nigeria, China, Azerbaijan, Ukraine, Russia, Georgia, Pakistan the list is long, who are higher salary grades than many Anglo-Saxon 3-4th generation Canadians. I know that for a fact because some of them work in my team and I am privy to their remuneration information.
I do believe, and so I have done all my life, that every man is the architect of his own fortune, and whether he or she will be successful largely, I repeat, largely depends on one's will, energy and perseverance, be that at home country or abroad.
When I was applying to become a PR back in 2001, I was short of the passing points, as at that time the passing mark was 73 and with just a bachelor degree for education and no French I was short of 3 points and did not qualify. I had to, literally, persuade David Cohen (the owner of this site) to take my money and represent me. He was not willing to at the beginning as he fairly concluded that my application would be unsuccessful being short of points. I could have just taken the stance of an “insulted innocence” and bad mouth Canada until this day for having not tailored the immigration selection qualification criteria to condescend to my personal realities. But I chose the way of perseverance and not accepting no for an answer. I did my research (I, instead of David whose job it was, one would argue) and found a “loophole” known as “substituted evaluation”. When applied under the substituted evaluation, the review officer is vested with the decision making power – he can add points to a case based on merits of the applicant and his likelihood to secure a good life in Canada. I was accepted. Took me 7 long years of waiting. But I was accepted. When that happened in 2008, I was a very senior level in an oil and gas company in Russia far-east making a lot of money. I knew that I would be able to get a decent salary in Canada but never that much. So for me it was not an economical drive to immigrate but rather an aspiration of a better (safety, dignity, society) life for my kids and myself. Even though I was sure I would find a well-paid job in Canada, and despite having a significant financial cushion should I lose my cash stream, I still opted to bring the family over and rotate back and force for 3 months before I secured a good job. Suncor, the biggest oil and gas Canadian company, and the first company I worked for in Canada, had to rewrite the offer of employment 3 times to meet my expectations and to have me (an immigrant!) to accept. So please don't tell me about us immigrants being discriminated just because of being from elsewhere.
This long post was not meant to demonstrate how great and successful I am personally. But rather to underscore the notion of equality, meritocracy of the Canadian society and, most importantly, personal skills and merits that are and will always be the main drive for success in any country.
In 2001 the requirement for immigrating was 70 points. I got my visa in July 2001.
 

Canuckguytorontotdot

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MUFC said:
It seems like when the people are leaving disappointed from Canada, they actually start to achieve more success when they go abroad. So why these people should stay in Canada? Maybe the other Canadians are jealous for their upcoming success when they leave Canada.
MUFC you are right bro

I am born and raised here you have a point bro
 

dpenabill

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turboracer:

What you appear to be overlooking is that the statistics clearly show Canada is a country attracting immigrants who stay in Canada.

There are many who leave. But the number who stay is far, far greater.

Many of those who leave came to Canada more interested in a Canadian passport than in becoming an in-fact citizen. The Canadian government has taken steps in recent years to discourage this. The majority of Canadians probably support the government's move in this direction.

For those who do leave, it is mostly about them, not about Canada. No place is for everyone.

So you should understand that when you start a topic to, essentially, insult the land and people you are seeking a huge benefit from (Canadian citizenship and passport) there will be some who are offended, and prone to pushing back, among those who are seeking Canadian citizenship because Canada is the place they want to make their true home, the place they intend to live and work, the place they hope to raise a family, the place in which they want to become a part of the community.

And, after all, going to a party and insulting the host is considered bad manners in most societies.
 
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RussCan

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era1521 said:
In 2001 the requirement for immigrating was 70 points. I got my visa in July 2001.
You are right. I stand corrected. It was 70 then lowered to 67. I remember I was 3 points short.