LANDING TRIP <<OR>> LANDING TO STAY?!

[xony]

Hello everyone,

I have been cruising for a while in the forum and reading a lot or valuable posts from seniors, some experience about landing, and all what you need to know..
it's really helpful to find this place around..

But here a subject OPENED FOR OPINIONS, which means it doesn't have a white OR black perspective,

Some people see that landing can be done with a short trip that can last for 7 days only or even less, where you actually "see" the country, have a tour around, meet people, ask about things, and most of all "know exactly how to prepare yourself for living there" - including money, cloth, any left ties to your home country, maybe study, language, etc. Then you go back to your work and regular life let's say for a year or two, try to make the most money out of them so that you can be supported later when you travel to stay.

On the other hand, other people think that this a total and ultimate waste of money and time. Money because only return ticket costs a fortune of $$ when transferred into local currency of home country. And it's a waste of time, because at any given day you reaches Canada to stay, your "Canadian" experience will start, your credit history will start..etc. As well, it's better to have this mind set of going and staying because it will boost your moral to work hardly to establish your stay, but having a way back home will make you always relaxed or maybe afraid of the change, and with time passing by, your get older and your kids get older and all of you: your adaptability decreases.


So, these are the two perspectives I heard from so many ppl around me and read in this forum and in others as well.
The field is all yours now folks..
your opinions,
your self assessment to the situation,
your experiences,
the experience of people you know,
are you with this team or the other..

everything is welcomed and I believe all the contributions will help and will enlighten others.

Cheers,
xony

 

[steaky]

Hello everyone,

I have been cruising for a while in the forum and reading a lot or valuable posts from seniors, some experience about landing, and all what you need to know..
it's really helpful to find this place around..

But here a subject OPENED FOR OPINIONS, which means it doesn't have a white OR black perspective,

Some people see that landing can be done with a short trip that can last for 7 days only or even less, where you actually "see" the country, have a tour around, meet people, ask about things, and most of all "know exactly how to prepare yourself for living there" - including money, cloth, any left ties to your home country, maybe study, language, etc. Then you go back to your work and regular life let's say for a year or two, try to make the most money out of them so that you can be supported later when you travel to stay.

Yes, 7 days or less is possible only if you have entrusted a friend or agent to receive the PR card and forward to you. If not, one has to stay more than that.

On the other hand, other people think that this a total and ultimate waste of money and time. Money because only return ticket costs a fortune of $$ when transferred into local currency of home country. And it's a waste of time, because at any given day you reaches Canada to stay, your "Canadian" experience will start, your credit history will start..etc. As well, it's better to have this mind set of going and staying because it will boost your moral to work hardly to establish your stay, but having a way back home will make you always relaxed or maybe afraid of the change, and with time passing by, your get older and your kids get older and all of you: your adaptability decreases.

Unless you have a job, your "Canadian" experience won't be running. Even if you buy property and start paying for mortgage, your credit history too won't be running. There is nothing wrong to go back home with older kids if the grass looks greener.


So, these are the two perspectives I heard from so many ppl around me and read in this forum and in others as well.
The field is all yours now folks..
your opinions,
your self assessment to the situation,
your experiences,
the experience of people you know,
are you with this team or the other..

everything is welcomed and I believe all the contributions will help and will enlighten others.

Cheers,
xony

 

[xony]

thanks steaky for your comments,

In fact I couldn't quite get witch direction you prefer, I didn't meant with this post to ask questions but to open discussion and see what is everyone's preference.

Be blessed man,
xony

 

[regnard]

Hello everyone,

I have been cruising for a while in the forum and reading a lot or valuable posts from seniors, some experience about landing, and all what you need to know..
it's really helpful to find this place around..

But here a subject OPENED FOR OPINIONS, which means it doesn't have a white OR black perspective,

Some people see that landing can be done with a short trip that can last for 7 days only or even less, where you actually "see" the country, have a tour around, meet people, ask about things, and most of all "know exactly how to prepare yourself for living there" - including money, cloth, any left ties to your home country, maybe study, language, etc. Then you go back to your work and regular life let's say for a year or two, try to make the most money out of them so that you can be supported later when you travel to stay.

On the other hand, other people think that this a total and ultimate waste of money and time. Money because only return ticket costs a fortune of $$ when transferred into local currency of home country. And it's a waste of time, because at any given day you reaches Canada to stay, your "Canadian" experience will start, your credit history will start..etc. As well, it's better to have this mind set of going and staying because it will boost your moral to work hardly to establish your stay, but having a way back home will make you always relaxed or maybe afraid of the change, and with time passing by, your get older and your kids get older and all of you: your adaptability decreases.


So, these are the two perspectives I heard from so many ppl around me and read in this forum and in others as well.
The field is all yours now folks..
your opinions,
your self assessment to the situation,
your experiences,
the experience of people you know,
are you with this team or the other..

everything is welcomed and I believe all the contributions will help and will enlighten others.

Cheers,
xony

It ultimately depends on how prepared you are to leave what you have and where you are to Canada.

But from a logistics point of view, you need to consider getting your PR card. Unless you have relatives who can receive your PR card in the mail, it's a challenge to land then leave.

 

[xony]

you have a valid point Regnard..

the thing is that I have lots of friends here in UAE who only did landing and came back.
Their friends in Canada mailed them their PR after they came bck.

So i think I wasn't risky for them all) I'm talking about almost 10 families!!

what was ur experience? or what is ur preference then?

 

[regnard]

you have a valid point Regnard..

the thing is that I have lots of friends here in UAE who only did landing and came back.
Their friends in Canada mailed them their PR after they came bck.

So i think I wasn't risky for them all) I'm talking about almost 10 families!!

what was ur experience? or what is ur preference then?

I didn't have the luxury of being able to ask someone else to pick up the PR cards, so you'd imagine what option I took.

Like I said, if receiving the PR card for you is not at a challenge, then you have to assess how ready you are. Moving to a new country is a big change (no, make that an EPIC change), so better give yourself the right amount of time. There's no one forcing you to rush your decision.

Good luck!

 

[mycan]

Even I had this dilema for some time.

The younger you go there its better and easier to settle down.

You have the advantage of staying there, experiencing the culture, know the people, work environment, create network, ....... etc

Even survival jobs you take up will add on to Canadian experience.

You can qualify for your citizenship in three years time if you start right now. (As I strongly believe in living & enjoying the present)

Whatever the money you make in three years after landing and going back do you think it will help for a long time? I feel no unless you have a fortune to carry. Right?

Money can always be earned any time but not the lost time and you can not make it up.

Only if your are unclear about settling in Canada then it is a different thing.

Think it over and be clear what you want and decide.

Hope it helps.

mycan

 

[xony]

dear regnard.. believe me sometimes it's not a luxury to come bck home, it's a necicity.
a bunch of families like ourselves don't have enough money to take this step, and we need more time in our jobs to make it feasible. Another thing as well is the ability to accept changes in life. Wives can be less flexible sometimes when it comes to changing the whole life system, especially that the change is 'epic' as u said
so even if many families here in UAE don't have the luxury of wasting money on landing trip as u mentioned that are for Ed to do that is most cases.

 

[xony]

dear mycan
believe me we know exactly what we want.. it's mainly a question of ability..

and because you have been before in this dialemma that's why I initiated this thread
I think many ppl have the question in mind and many others just didn't consider other options

cheers man, ur words are always inspiring

xony

 

[CB]

Hello everyone,

I have been cruising for a while in the forum and reading a lot or valuable posts from seniors, some experience about landing, and all what you need to know..
it's really helpful to find this place around..

But here a subject OPENED FOR OPINIONS, which means it doesn't have a white OR black perspective,

Some people see that landing can be done with a short trip that can last for 7 days only or even less, where you actually "see" the country, have a tour around, meet people, ask about things, and most of all "know exactly how to prepare yourself for living there" - including money, cloth, any left ties to your home country, maybe study, language, etc. Then you go back to your work and regular life let's say for a year or two, try to make the most money out of them so that you can be supported later when you travel to stay.

On the other hand, other people think that this a total and ultimate waste of money and time. Money because only return ticket costs a fortune of $$ when transferred into local currency of home country. And it's a waste of time, because at any given day you reaches Canada to stay, your "Canadian" experience will start, your credit history will start..etc. As well, it's better to have this mind set of going and staying because it will boost your moral to work hardly to establish your stay, but having a way back home will make you always relaxed or maybe afraid of the change, and with time passing by, your get older and your kids get older and all of you: your adaptability decreases.


So, these are the two perspectives I heard from so many ppl around me and read in this forum and in others as well.
The field is all yours now folks..
your opinions,
your self assessment to the situation,
your experiences,
the experience of people you know,
are you with this team or the other..

everything is welcomed and I believe all the contributions will help and will enlighten others.

Cheers,
xony

Dear Member,

Question of short or Permanent Landing often causes dilemma ,It often is a personal choice depending on job at home,unfinished business, children academic year ,Weather at the time of landing ,Resources and funds available with you etc...
Believe me, whatever way you land its 2-3 years of struggle and survival,after that you will feel settled.Lucky few get good jobs immediately and get settled in a very short time.
I did my short landing(lasting 40 days) in oct11,we were family of 4 and this is my experience:

1. 7-15 days landing is of no use at all,You can explore as a tourist and meet few ppl and get feel of the place but it does not prepare you for actual process of settlement.One should stay there for at least 30 days.During my stay i joined various settlement organisations and attended seminars on Winter preparation,Cold Calling,Getting over fear of cold calling,Interview preparation,Mock Interviews, Income Tax and returns,Resume building,cover letter,Networking,attended lots of Job fairs,2nd career options,Buisness prospects seminars,interaction with CBSA regarding export/Import,Interacted with IRA for various taxation policies,Canadian schooling system,Various teen kids issues, Voluntary work,Job skills,Job search..etc..Most important was resume building,I worked with senior Job Councillor who helped me in preparing Resume,after my stay i had perfect Canadian style RESUME in my hands.

2.I did explore almost all of Toronto and around as a tourist ,used TTC, Brampton Transit,Go train,Missisauga transit..in short i used almost all means of public transport to go around Toronto and GTA..this way i got my orientations right and was able to shortlist location for future home.Though i shortlisted 7-8 locations and surrounding school reports are available on fraserlist.This is a very tricky situation for permanent lander as they tend to look for home near relatives or friends localities,where you may find good school but imagine you get a job which requires transiting for 1-2 Hrs one side,Sure your life is going to be Miserable.Good schools are available all round Toronto,Look for house which suites all,or be prepared to relocate.

3. After getting my Resume made i started looking for job...Mostly through Net...Via workopolis,Moster etc...this was just a test and i wanted to judge what kind of response i am getting or getting any response at all , I sure got response which assured me that i have good resume at hand.

4.I started preparing for my return journey..with all resources at hand.additionally i bought credit on my Gmail A/c and bought Magicjack with Ontario Number(it costs abt. $20 per annum)...this would help me in cold calling from the comforts of my home and giving first few rounds of telephonic interviews.

Once i got back, I started looking for Job,Since i was at home i was not bothered abt expenses, cost of living,Homesick,Under Cultural shock...this set my mind absolutely and absolutely on a good job search,since i was not under any kind of pressure i was able to find not 1 but 4 jobs of my liking,although offers were scattered around Canada but i was not worried i can go anywhere as i was not committed to only one city , As i said earlier i was well connected with Canada and my employer not for a moment felt i was out of Canada.

Although i admire courage of one time settler but what i have mentioned is my experience.I hope this helps

CB

 

[xony]

Mr CB,
I raise my hat for you sir,

THIS IS A POST THAT SURELY WILL HELP ME AND MANY OTHERS.

by your experience you really made the scale dropping on this side
but 40 days??! it's a long vacation from work and a lot of expenses in Canada..
if you would share with us please how did you managed your expenses to make it work.
thanks again for a very strong and helpful post

xony

 

[CB]

Mr CB,
I raise my hat for you sir,

THIS IS A POST THAT SURELY WILL HELP ME AND MANY OTHERS.

by your experience you really made the scale dropping on this side
but 40 days??! it's a long vacation from work and a lot of expenses in Canada..
if you would share with us please how did you managed your expenses to make it work.
thanks again for a very strong and helpful post

xony

Hi Xony,
I had luxury of 40 days so i attended every Informative session on settlement organisation's schedule.You can focus on Resume Building followed by job search only.Usually Job Councilor gives 1 appointment in a week so it took 3 weeks for me to get resume made,But loads of good material and Sample resumes are available in their library,If can go through it and develop resume yourself then 2 appointments with councilor are sufficient.

When talking abt 30 days, its usually 20-22 business days of which 3 days you need for SIN,Bank,Driving Licence and OHIP formalities.

I started accumulating my leaves from the time of application that way getting 40 days was easy.

I booked my and my families return tickets 3 months in advance, used my Miles , it costed me mere 25% more than one way ticket.

I lived with my cousin for 40 days ,sure that was a great relief expense wise .I spent $ 5800 in 40 days($4200 return airfare(for 4),$ 1600 other exp.),If you are on your own then tentatively add another $1500 for Boarding and Lodging.

Hope this helps,
Cb

 

[hondubai]

Dear Member,

Question of short or Permanent Landing often causes dilemma ,It often is a personal choice depending on job at home,unfinished business, children academic year ,Weather at the time of landing ,Resources and funds available with you etc...
admire courage of one time settler but what i have mentioned is my experience.I hope this helps
CB

Respected experience and valued share. I personally, prefer offshore landing too unless you are fully prepared, your credentials are assessed and Sufficiently aware of what you will gonna do and what kind of challenges are awaiting for you and how you will tackle and get over them.

 

[sam pk]

Respected experience and valued share. I personally, prefer offshore landing too unless you are fully prepared, your credentials are assessed and Sufficiently aware of what you will gonna do and what kind of challenges are awaiting for you and how you will tackle and get over them.

Yes well said

 

[regnard]

dear regnard.. believe me sometimes it's not a luxury to come bck home, it's a necicity.
a bunch of families like ourselves don't have enough money to take this step, and we need more time in our jobs to make it feasible. Another thing as well is the ability to accept changes in life. Wives can be less flexible sometimes when it comes to changing the whole life system, especially that the change is 'epic' as u said
so even if many families here in UAE don't have the luxury of wasting money on landing trip as u mentioned that are for Ed to do that is most cases.

Hi xony!

Everyone's financial situation is different and if you feel you're not absolutely ready financially, then I say there's nothing wrong with saving up a little but more.