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MrsMcLaughlin

Hero Member
Oct 24, 2014
211
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Mr. Optimism said:
Hi everyone,

I hope everyone is okay and in the best of health. I have some questions and I am looking for some guidance. First, I will give a brief run down of situation. I am a young 27 year old Jamaican male who has never traveled before. In fact, I have been denied visitor for US three time and Canada twice. No criminal record, but on the basis of ties to home country and funds. I have been employed in a call center environment for well over 5yrs now.

My girlfriend is a Canadian Citizen, 5yrs older than I am. We were introduced over the phone by a friend of my mom who was in Canada back in December 2014. We exchanged numbers and became friends, nothing serious at the time. We took it a day at a time and developed feelings for each other. In the summer of 2015, she sent an invitation so I could apply for a TRV to visit and accompany her to a wedding. We were both naive to the process and the application was denied. The relation on the application was friends. We never met before and didn't know where life would take us. Neither did I have any intention of staying, I genuinely wanted the chance to travel because I was denied 3 times already by the US. That did not stopped us. After the wedding she came to visit me in Jamaica an we spent a week at a hotel on the north cost during that time see met my mom.

After she return, we begin to work on the reasons I was denied and we prepared a better application this time around. We did the application in November 2015 to travel for December 2015 but was denied again. The relation was still friends. They came back with reasons like no travel history, didn't have sufficient funds, ties and assets. Again, she travel to visit me in January 2016. We spent 7 days together at a hotel. The reason for the short trips is because she has a 5 yr old daughter back home and she holds position in her job so her life back home is pretty demanding.

Honestly, I have no urge to apply for another visit visa regardless of where. We are stressed out, because we are deeply in love and I cannot travel to even send some quality time with here and her family and it's really hard living apart. 7 days, two week visit is not enough for us. She said the next time she visit we would just get married and she would begin the paperwork. This would take place between Sept to Dec 2016 God's willing.

I have read some articles and my questions are
:

1.) Would this seem like a marriage for convenience because I was denied trice by US and twice by CA?
a.) Would it be considered misrepresentation since we had friends and not girlfriend/partner on both applications I was denied?


2.) Would 1yr 9mths be enough time? (Yes, I understand marriage is a personal decision. But is this acceptable in the eyes of the VO or is it a "red flag"? )

3.) Would our 5yrs age difference be a factor?

** All here family lives in Canada, they migrated yrs ago. We are planning on a small wedding, so maybe only her mom, aunt, and brother would come depending on the time and the cost. I would also invite a handful from my side because, we are just doing something small at this time. Maybe at RGD or a package depending on the hotel we will stay the next time.

4.) Do they scrutinize the location of the wedding, how many persons attend, etc?

5.) What is the rough estimate to complete the filing process?

I am grateful for any feedback, please and thanks. Please let me know the stages of filing and submitting an error free application.

Thanks in advance.
Good morning, and welcome!

I'm no expert and I really don't know much about visitor visas, but I think if you present a strong application and address all concerns that you think immigration might have you should be successful! You may have to do an interview, but as long as you explain to them what you just explained to us here then you should be fine :)

Yes, one year and 9 months before getting married is enough time! There are plenty of people on here who have gotten married after less time than that and been successful with their applications, it's not the length of the relationship that's important they just want to make sure it's genuine so make sure you show them that! If you haven't already, make sure you document absolutely everything (phone calls, msgs, emails, cards/letters, travel documentation when she comes to see you, etc.)

The age difference shouldn't be a big deal, but that combined with the denied visitor visas and the relatively short relationship *may* be enough red flags for them to request an interview. Just try not to stress out about it and prepare yourself just in case. Plenty of people have interviews and are approved, you just need to be honest and show them your relationship is real :)

It's not the size of the wedding that's important, it's the thought that went in to it and how well you document it really. Take lots of pictures of yourselves with all the guests who do attend and make sure to included those in your application, along with an explanation of why you did a small wedding and you will be fine!

The spousal sponsorship application costs just over $1000CAD to submit and it is best to submit all fees upfront if possible. You do have the option of paying some of it ($75 application fee plus $475 for principal applicant) upfront and then waiting for them to request the rest (Right of permanent residence fee $490), but it may slow down your application a bit if you wait for them to request it. In terms of time, it looks like most people lately have been getting through in a year or less, but that can always change and if an interview is requested it could take longer than the average timeframe.

It is also recommended that you submit an upfront medical exam and police check along with your application when you apply. All forms and documents that are required can be found here http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/fc.asp#immigrate

Read through the guides carefully and you should be fine!

Hopefully this helps a bit, feel free to ask other questions you may think of. This forum is full of people who are all in the same boat as you so we're all here to help! :) Best of luck!
 

missmyhubbysomuch

Full Member
Nov 13, 2015
37
0
Jamaica
Category........
Visa Office......
kingston
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
1-04-2015
AOR Received.
06-05-2015
File Transfer...
06-05-2015
Med's Done....
upfront
Interview........
waived
Passport Req..
14-03-2016
VISA ISSUED...
14-04-2016
lonelydreadswife said:
We are next i will.keep allyou ladies in my prayers positive vibes sent to all

Thanks lonelydreadswife with God all things are possible
 

susanrichards2015

Hero Member
Jan 5, 2016
619
7
Category........
Visa Office......
KINGSTON
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
VISA ISSUED...
Please Lord
MixedChick92 said:
Thank you everyone! You all will be hearing something soon. oh and make sure you have your spouse check their junk mail lol!

Cece yes boo you were so right :-* Yay!
Congrats girl and all the best. So happy to see Kingston moving along
 

suga36

Full Member
Aug 19, 2015
42
0
Category........
Visa Office......
Kingston
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
26 Feb 2015
AOR Received.
27 Feb 2015
File Transfer...
May 6
Med's Done....
Upfront
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
9 Feb 2016
VISA ISSUED...
24 Feb 2016
LANDED..........
25 Feb 2016
Hey guys I haven't been on the chat. As I am here in Jamaica visiting my hubby for valentines and his bday. Congrats to everyone on there ppr request... Hubby got his ppr req Feb 9....how long does it take to get passport back
 

jacalinkup

Hero Member
Jan 13, 2016
404
5
Canada
Category........
Visa Office......
Kingston
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
23-10-15
AOR Received.
14-12-15
File Transfer...
23-12-15
Med's Done....
06-04-16
Passport Req..
Praying Soon.
VISA ISSUED...
Praying Soon.
LANDED..........
Praying Soon.
suga36 said:
Hey guys I haven't been on the chat. As I am here in Jamaica visiting my hubby for valentines and his bday. Congrats to everyone on there ppr request... Hubby got his ppr req Feb 9....how long does it take to get passport back
Congrats Suga36!!!!
 

MrsMcLaughlin

Hero Member
Oct 24, 2014
211
10
suga36 said:
Hey guys I haven't been on the chat. As I am here in Jamaica visiting my hubby for valentines and his bday. Congrats to everyone on there ppr request... Hubby got his ppr req Feb 9....how long does it take to get passport back
Congrats!!! Kingston is really moving now :D
 

suga36

Full Member
Aug 19, 2015
42
0
Category........
Visa Office......
Kingston
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
26 Feb 2015
AOR Received.
27 Feb 2015
File Transfer...
May 6
Med's Done....
Upfront
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
9 Feb 2016
VISA ISSUED...
24 Feb 2016
LANDED..........
25 Feb 2016
I am hoping he get it back before I leave Feb 23. It would be nice for us to come home together
 

impatientwife

Hero Member
Jan 28, 2016
645
6
Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Kingston
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-11-2015
AOR Received.
20-01-2016
File Transfer...
25-01-2016
Med's Done....
UPFRONT/Extended until Aug/2017
Interview........
06/12/2016
Passport Req..
TOMORROW WOULD BE NICE LOL
VISA ISSUED...
ON SPOT ☺☺☺
LANDED..........
Already Did
suga36 said:
Hey guys I haven't been on the chat. As I am here in Jamaica visiting my hubby for valentines and his bday. Congrats to everyone on there ppr request... Hubby got his ppr req Feb 9....how long does it take to get passport back
From what i've noticed it's usually about a month, month and a 1/2, maybe someone else who's already gone through it can chime in
 

impatientwife

Hero Member
Jan 28, 2016
645
6
Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Kingston
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-11-2015
AOR Received.
20-01-2016
File Transfer...
25-01-2016
Med's Done....
UPFRONT/Extended until Aug/2017
Interview........
06/12/2016
Passport Req..
TOMORROW WOULD BE NICE LOL
VISA ISSUED...
ON SPOT ☺☺☺
LANDED..........
Already Did
Mr. Optimism said:
Hi everyone,

I hope everyone is okay and in the best of health. I have some questions and I am looking for some guidance. First, I will give a brief run down of situation. I am a young 27 year old Jamaican male who has never traveled before. In fact, I have been denied visitor for US three time and Canada twice. No criminal record, but on the basis of ties to home country and funds. I have been employed in a call center environment for well over 5yrs now.

My girlfriend is a Canadian Citizen, 5yrs older than I am. We were introduced over the phone by a friend of my mom who was in Canada back in December 2014. We exchanged numbers and became friends, nothing serious at the time. We took it a day at a time and developed feelings for each other. In the summer of 2015, she sent an invitation so I could apply for a TRV to visit and accompany her to a wedding. We were both naive to the process and the application was denied. The relation on the application was friends. We never met before and didn't know where life would take us. Neither did I have any intention of staying, I genuinely wanted the chance to travel because I was denied 3 times already by the US. That did not stopped us. After the wedding she came to visit me in Jamaica an we spent a week at a hotel on the north cost during that time see met my mom.

After she return, we begin to work on the reasons I was denied and we prepared a better application this time around. We did the application in November 2015 to travel for December 2015 but was denied again. The relation was still friends. They came back with reasons like no travel history, didn't have sufficient funds, ties and assets. Again, she travel to visit me in January 2016. We spent 7 days together at a hotel. The reason for the short trips is because she has a 5 yr old daughter back home and she holds position in her job so her life back home is pretty demanding.

Honestly, I have no urge to apply for another visit visa regardless of where. We are stressed out, because we are deeply in love and I cannot travel to even send some quality time with here and her family and it's really hard living apart. 7 days, two week visit is not enough for us. She said the next time she visit we would just get married and she would begin the paperwork. This would take place between Sept to Dec 2016 God's willing.

I have read some articles and my questions are
:

1.) Would this seem like a marriage for convenience because I was denied trice by US and twice by CA?
a.) Would it be considered misrepresentation since we had friends and not girlfriend/partner on both applications I was denied?


2.) Would 1yr 9mths be enough time? (Yes, I understand marriage is a personal decision. But is this acceptable in the eyes of the VO or is it a "red flag"? )

3.) Would our 5yrs age difference be a factor?

** All here family lives in Canada, they migrated yrs ago. We are planning on a small wedding, so maybe only her mom, aunt, and brother would come depending on the time and the cost. I would also invite a handful from my side because, we are just doing something small at this time. Maybe at RGD or a package depending on the hotel we will stay the next time.

4.) Do they scrutinize the location of the wedding, how many persons attend, etc?

5.) What is the rough estimate to complete the filing process?

I am grateful for any feedback, please and thanks. Please let me know the stages of filing and submitting an error free application.

Thanks in advance.
I personally wouldn’t tell them you were introduced over the phone, I’d just say introduced by family members they might look at that fishy, however connect with a lawyer if even for a consultation. Also keep all receipts from her hotel stays, plane tickets etc. Cheers and blessings.
 

MixedChick92

Hero Member
Feb 23, 2015
302
11
Category........
Visa Office......
KINGSTON, JAMAICA
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
03-24-2015
File Transfer...
05-28-2015
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
02-16-2016
VISA ISSUED...
04-15-2016
LANDED..........
07-13-2016
suga36 said:
Hey guys I haven't been on the chat. As I am here in Jamaica visiting my hubby for valentines and his bday. Congrats to everyone on there ppr request... Hubby got his ppr req Feb 9....how long does it take to get passport back
Awesome news congrats Suga! :)& again thank you everyone hubby went and redid his PC today lol can u imagine they sent PPR with PC request the same day his PC EXPIRED!

KVO is moving fast and we all loving it!!!!!!! :-* :p
 

Cece0225

Star Member
Apr 29, 2015
99
2
TORONTO
Category........
Visa Office......
KNG
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12-02-2015
Doc's Request.
NONE
AOR Received.
08-04-2015, SA: 15-04-2015
File Transfer...
15-04-2015
Med's Request
UPFRONT
Med's Done....
18-12-2014
Passport Req..
08-02-2016 DM: 02-03-2016
VISA ISSUED...
09-03-2016
LANDED..........
20-03-2016
Hey guys I have a quick question, for those of you who have recently received PPR, how many days did they give you to submit everything? 30, 60 or 90days?
 

Cece0225

Star Member
Apr 29, 2015
99
2
TORONTO
Category........
Visa Office......
KNG
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
12-02-2015
Doc's Request.
NONE
AOR Received.
08-04-2015, SA: 15-04-2015
File Transfer...
15-04-2015
Med's Request
UPFRONT
Med's Done....
18-12-2014
Passport Req..
08-02-2016 DM: 02-03-2016
VISA ISSUED...
09-03-2016
LANDED..........
20-03-2016
OH AND MRS MAC PLZ CHANGE MY PP SEND IN DATE TO 18FEB SINCE SOME CONFUSION...
 

susanrichards2015

Hero Member
Jan 5, 2016
619
7
Category........
Visa Office......
KINGSTON
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
VISA ISSUED...
Please Lord
Jesus I'm getting so excited. Congratulations to all of you. KVO is on the go
 

Mr. Optimism

Member
Dec 16, 2015
13
0
I just want to say a warm thank you to MrsMcLaughlin, Impatientwife, and Mixedchick92 for responding to my post with kind and positive feedback. I really appreciate it and I have taken notes. I will most definitely keep you guys posted as time goes by.

Have a great day all!
 

impatientwife

Hero Member
Jan 28, 2016
645
6
Ontario
Category........
Visa Office......
Kingston
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
06-11-2015
AOR Received.
20-01-2016
File Transfer...
25-01-2016
Med's Done....
UPFRONT/Extended until Aug/2017
Interview........
06/12/2016
Passport Req..
TOMORROW WOULD BE NICE LOL
VISA ISSUED...
ON SPOT ☺☺☺
LANDED..........
Already Did
susanrichards2015 said:
Jesus I'm getting so excited. Congratulations to all of you. KVO is on the go
me too lol i'm guessing by the end of this year early next year the latest once there's no hiccups our hubbys will be here