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kevin.ottawa

Full Member
Nov 5, 2020
22
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Is there anyone still waiting for biometrics update? With June AOR and exempted.
My AOR is June 1st and still showing "We have not received your fingerprints..." Knowing more June AOR people getting PPR is a positive sign but it also put me in a deep depression... My application seems not to move at all.
 

przemekrebacz

Star Member
Aug 5, 2020
70
67
Winnipeg
Category........
PNP
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
2714
Nomination.....
10-06-2020
AOR Received.
17-06-2020
Med's Done....
05-08-2020
Is there anyone still waiting for biometrics update? With June AOR and exempted.
My AOR is June 1st and still showing "We have not received your fingerprints..." Knowing more June AOR people getting PPR is a positive sign but it also put me in a deep depression... My application seems not to move at all.
Send a webfrom asking about it - i did it and well don't know if it was blind luck or actually this worked but i got my bio updated within a week.
 
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skabli

Member
Jul 18, 2014
17
0
Hi everone ,
Since the VAC has been closed in india since the past 6 months I have not been able to give my biometrics, My AOR is june 2nd.
The medicals are passed dated june 29 2020. I dont check my profile that often
My question is does the IRCC looks into the file for eligibility or background check even if biometrics are not given?
If they do start processing what stage might I be ?
The Background check gives the below status
  • We are processing your background check. We will send you a message if we need more information.
Any help with this would be highly appreciated
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Not really! May be @legalfalcon can answer this. :)
@03JAN

All applications will have Primary and secondary visa officer. Secondary is where your application will go through most of the processing, usually a CPC. Secondary is where the office will issue you a PPR, usually the LVO in your country of residence.

Visa Office

There has been an obsession of finding which visa office the application is at. Many threads on this forum start with explaining how to find your visa office. Let's get to the crux of it. Finding the visa office was very relevant pre- express entry. Even after the introduction of express entry in 2015, the same practice was followed which usually was for the paper based application, but that is no longer the case. Earlier all application followed the following trajectory:

Central Intake Office - Case Processing Centre - Local Visa Office

However, this has radically changed and for all express entry, all application follow the following:

1. Central Intake Office - The R10 (completeness check) is done at the Central Intake Office for all classes (FSW / PNP / CEC). Now even the criminality and medicals are done at CIO.

2. Case Processing Centre - These are 4 CPCs in Canada

CPC in Edmonton
CPC in Mississauga
CPC and CIO in Sydney
CPC in Ottawa
OSC in Ottawa
The Operations Support Centre (OSC) processes the following applications:

International Experience Canada work permits
In-Canada temporary resident applications submitted online
Verification of Status (VOS)
Replacement of valid temporary resident documents
Amendment of immigration documents and of valid temporary resident documents


Local Visa Office - This is the office where you will be asked to submit your passport after your application has been approved. Usually the consulate in your home country.

These days all application after starting at CIO (where R10 is met), either start the processing of eligibility at CIO itself, or move to CPC (wither Ottawa, Sydney, or Vegreville), or are straight sent to the LVO. The trend has been to complete most of the processing between CIO and CPC. Since the applications are electronically stored, there is no movement of physical files.

SUGGESTION - There is no point sending emails to ask which VO your application is at, as that process is moot since the eligibility can even start at CIO. So save yourself some time and efforts and also save the human resources of IRCC and stop sending emails. Even if you know which VO your application is at, it means nothing. Most applications which are processed within weeks and get PPR, are processed at CIO, and this is a much faster way.

A few applications will see eligibility passed, and then go to not started when the application is sent to the LVO. This is because the final review is done at the LVO, and the local agent may decide to conduct additional review, or identification before the eligibility is finally set to PASSED.
 

Angel1113

Hero Member
Jun 6, 2019
808
937
Ontario
Category........
CEC
NOC Code......
4212
AOR Received.
24 June 2020
Med's Done....
05-06-2020
@03JAN

All applications will have Primary and secondary visa officer. Secondary is where your application will go through most of the processing, usually a CPC. Secondary is where the office will issue you a PPR, usually the LVO in your country of residence.

Visa Office

There has been an obsession of finding which visa office the application is at. Many threads on this forum start with explaining how to find your visa office. Let's get to the crux of it. Finding the visa office was very relevant pre- express entry. Even after the introduction of express entry in 2015, the same practice was followed which usually was for the paper based application, but that is no longer the case. Earlier all application followed the following trajectory:

Central Intake Office - Case Processing Centre - Local Visa Office

However, this has radically changed and for all express entry, all application follow the following:

1. Central Intake Office - The R10 (completeness check) is done at the Central Intake Office for all classes (FSW / PNP / CEC). Now even the criminality and medicals are done at CIO.

2. Case Processing Centre - These are 4 CPCs in Canada

CPC in Edmonton
CPC in Mississauga
CPC and CIO in Sydney
CPC in Ottawa
OSC in Ottawa
The Operations Support Centre (OSC) processes the following applications:

International Experience Canada work permits
In-Canada temporary resident applications submitted online
Verification of Status (VOS)
Replacement of valid temporary resident documents
Amendment of immigration documents and of valid temporary resident documents


Local Visa Office - This is the office where you will be asked to submit your passport after your application has been approved. Usually the consulate in your home country.

These days all application after starting at CIO (where R10 is met), either start the processing of eligibility at CIO itself, or move to CPC (wither Ottawa, Sydney, or Vegreville), or are straight sent to the LVO. The trend has been to complete most of the processing between CIO and CPC. Since the applications are electronically stored, there is no movement of physical files.

SUGGESTION - There is no point sending emails to ask which VO your application is at, as that process is moot since the eligibility can even start at CIO. So save yourself some time and efforts and also save the human resources of IRCC and stop sending emails. Even if you know which VO your application is at, it means nothing. Most applications which are processed within weeks and get PPR, are processed at CIO, and this is a much faster way.

A few applications will see eligibility passed, and then go to not started when the application is sent to the LVO. This is because the final review is done at the LVO, and the local agent may decide to conduct additional review, or identification before the eligibility is finally set to PASSED.
Thanks for the info.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
My status for eligibility is REVIEW REQUIRED. However, GCMS notes also state that eligibility is READY TO FINALIZE. Following is the extract:

NOTES
NOTES 1:
Created Date: 2020/08/04
Updated Date: 2020/08/14
Updated By: DM01333
REVIEW TYPE: A11.2 – CASE PROCESSING AGENT APPLICATION: E00XXXXXXX REGULATION PNP: FSW, 2020/06/09 I have reviewed this application based upon the documents submitted by the applicant and the information contained in the file and note the following, RECOMMENDATION: ** OFFICER REVIEW REQUIRED *** A11.2: MET ----- R87: APPERS TO MEET ------ R75: APPEARS TO MEET ------ R76: Selection Criteria – FSW Points: APPEARS TO MEET R76: Selection Criteria – Funds: Settlement Funds are MET, Medical ALL VALID READY TO FINALIZE

@legalfalcon

See the note and there will be a reason for RR. If there is none, then it is a generic RR.

The note you see is by a CPA, who have marked your application as ready to finalise, subject to any other assessments. this will have to be reviewed by an officer who will make a final determination on your eligibility.

See me previous post at #2,521

A11.2 refers to eligibility and R87 is the criteria for PNP.
  • 87 (1) For the purposes of subsection 12(2) of the Act, the provincial nominee class is hereby prescribed as a class of persons who may become permanent residents on the basis of their ability to become economically established in Canada.

R75
  • 75 (1) For the purposes of subsection 12(2) of the Act, the federal skilled worker class is hereby prescribed as a class of persons who are skilled workers and who may become permanent residents on the basis of their ability to become economically established in Canada and who intend to reside in a province other than the Province of Quebec.

Reposting my older post on RR:

Understanding “Review Required”
A lot of applicants see “review required” in their GCMS notes for eligibility. There are many theories floating around with regard to what “review required” means and if it is alarming.

Before I venture into explaining the significance, it is important to understand that each application goes through the following stages as per the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and the regulations (Canadian Immigration Law):

R10 – Completeness Check
Criminality
Medicals
A11.2 – eligibility
Security

Out of the above, the most important stage is eligibility. This is also the most time-consuming stage because your documents have to be verified, evaluated and assessed to ascertain that you meet the eligibility criteria for the program you have applied (FSW / CEC / FTW). To stream line this process and make it easier for an immigration officer (decision making authority), all applications are first evaluated by case analysts or program assistants. They review the documents and summarize it in the GCMS. If they have any concerns with any document or want the immigration officer to carefully look into a specific document, they will flag it as “review required.” It is the content of the note that is important here. If the review required is for a specific document, while the summary of the note says that an applicant has met the eligibility, or “ready to finalize” it simply means that while the applicant has met the eligibility criteria, but the specific document needs a careful examination form the officer before promoting (eligibility pass) by the officer.

However, if there are concerns, they will be clearly mentioned in the note. If there is nothing specific and still you have a RR, then it merely indicates that the CPA or analyst is requesting the officer to review the documents once before finalising it.

The specific reasons would be that the job duties do not match, or the employment cannot be verified, or the number of years of work experience claimed cannot be verified. This is where an application can land in muddy waters. But the final decision rests on the immigration officer. He may override the decision of the analyst / assistant or go with the analysis of the analyst / assistant.

If you answered yes to a statutory question, about a prior visa refusal etc, you will have RR. This only indicates to verify if you have criminality or inadmissibility issues based on the refusal.

Even in cases where the analyst / assistant is of the opinion that the applicant has met the eligibility, and there is no “review required,” the officer can replace it with his own opinion. Though rare, but it does happen. This is why the eligibility is only passed when an officer conclusively marks the eligibility as passed.

Finally, there is “review required” for PoF. This is the most common in many applications. This is because, the financial and banking practices of each country are different. Eg. Fixed deposits are know as Certificate of Deposit (CD) in the US. Similarly, treasury bonds, mutual funds, stocks, and many other investment vehicles are there. If your PoF anything other than a bank deposit, it is more likely that it will be marked as “review required.” Also, IRCC does not go by day to day fluctuations in FOREX. Instead, the Canadian federal government issued a quarterly conversion rate for all FOREX vis-a-via CAD. If your PoF is in a foreign currency, then you may have “review required” for the officer to make a determination.

Just because you have “review required” does not mean that you hit the panic mode. Instead, read the context in which it is there. If there is a concern regarding a document, you can send a replacement document via CSE. The most common reasons for RR are:

1. Work reference letter without job duties
2. Work reference letters missing all the details requested by IRCC
3. If you submitted a letter from a colleague because you were unable to get one from your employer, but did not have a LoE on file, this too will lead to RR.
4. Not sufficient work experience in the primary NOC.
5. Inability to verify your employment as your employer details are missing.
6. Answering yes to statutory question.

There are just some of the scenarios.

Hope this helps.
 
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03JAN

Full Member
Sep 2, 2020
46
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@03JAN

All applications will have Primary and secondary visa officer. Secondary is where your application will go through most of the processing, usually a CPC. Secondary is where the office will issue you a PPR, usually the LVO in your country of residence.

Visa Office

There has been an obsession of finding which visa office the application is at. Many threads on this forum start with explaining how to find your visa office. Let's get to the crux of it. Finding the visa office was very relevant pre- express entry. Even after the introduction of express entry in 2015, the same practice was followed which usually was for the paper based application, but that is no longer the case. Earlier all application followed the following trajectory:

Central Intake Office - Case Processing Centre - Local Visa Office

However, this has radically changed and for all express entry, all application follow the following:

1. Central Intake Office - The R10 (completeness check) is done at the Central Intake Office for all classes (FSW / PNP / CEC). Now even the criminality and medicals are done at CIO.

2. Case Processing Centre - These are 4 CPCs in Canada

CPC in Edmonton
CPC in Mississauga
CPC and CIO in Sydney
CPC in Ottawa
OSC in Ottawa
The Operations Support Centre (OSC) processes the following applications:

International Experience Canada work permits
In-Canada temporary resident applications submitted online
Verification of Status (VOS)
Replacement of valid temporary resident documents
Amendment of immigration documents and of valid temporary resident documents


Local Visa Office - This is the office where you will be asked to submit your passport after your application has been approved. Usually the consulate in your home country.

These days all application after starting at CIO (where R10 is met), either start the processing of eligibility at CIO itself, or move to CPC (wither Ottawa, Sydney, or Vegreville), or are straight sent to the LVO. The trend has been to complete most of the processing between CIO and CPC. Since the applications are electronically stored, there is no movement of physical files.

SUGGESTION - There is no point sending emails to ask which VO your application is at, as that process is moot since the eligibility can even start at CIO. So save yourself some time and efforts and also save the human resources of IRCC and stop sending emails. Even if you know which VO your application is at, it means nothing. Most applications which are processed within weeks and get PPR, are processed at CIO, and this is a much faster way.

A few applications will see eligibility passed, and then go to not started when the application is sent to the LVO. This is because the final review is done at the LVO, and the local agent may decide to conduct additional review, or identification before the eligibility is finally set to PASSED.
Many thanks for your reply!

In my case, my primary is CPC-Ottawa and secondary is CIO according to GCMS note. is this normal?
 

Danishacca55

Member
Feb 14, 2020
15
12
See the note and there will be a reason for RR. If there is none, then it is a generic RR.

The note you see is by a CPA, who have marked your application as ready to finalise, subject to any other assessments. this will have to be reviewed by an officer who will make a final determination on your eligibility.

See me previous post at #2,521

A11.2 refers to eligibility and R87 is the criteria for PNP.
  • 87 (1) For the purposes of subsection 12(2) of the Act, the provincial nominee class is hereby prescribed as a class of persons who may become permanent residents on the basis of their ability to become economically established in Canada.

R75
  • 75 (1) For the purposes of subsection 12(2) of the Act, the federal skilled worker class is hereby prescribed as a class of persons who are skilled workers and who may become permanent residents on the basis of their ability to become economically established in Canada and who intend to reside in a province other than the Province of Quebec.

Reposting my older post on RR:
I thoroughly read my GCMS notes and I couldn't find any reason for Review Required...
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
I thoroughly read my GCMS notes and I couldn't find any reason for Review Required...
Then its a generic reason asking the officer to review the eligibility criteria. Happens in some cases and nothing to be concerned about.
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,048
9,916
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Many thanks for your reply!

In my case, my primary is CPC-Ottawa and secondary is CIO according to GCMS note. is this normal?
During the processing of an application it is sent to many offices. Which office your application is at is irrelevant. What matters is that it is progressing.
 
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jigneshparikhh

Full Member
Jul 2, 2020
34
6
See the note and there will be a reason for RR. If there is none, then it is a generic RR.

The note you see is by a CPA, who have marked your application as ready to finalise, subject to any other assessments. this will have to be reviewed by an officer who will make a final determination on your eligibility.

See me previous post at #2,521

A11.2 refers to eligibility and R87 is the criteria for PNP.
  • 87 (1) For the purposes of subsection 12(2) of the Act, the provincial nominee class is hereby prescribed as a class of persons who may become permanent residents on the basis of their ability to become economically established in Canada.

R75
  • 75 (1) For the purposes of subsection 12(2) of the Act, the federal skilled worker class is hereby prescribed as a class of persons who are skilled workers and who may become permanent residents on the basis of their ability to become economically established in Canada and who intend to reside in a province other than the Province of Quebec.

Reposting my older post on RR:
@legalfalcon Do they ask for the replacement document if they find something missing?