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Im canadian citizen and i will be applying conjugal app for my partner very soon. I have question and i hope you can help.

Technically, i can only stay in PHilippines for 30 days as a viisitor or up to 59 days. I got a philippine tourist visa good for 4 months. Is it true that if i extend and are able to stay longer this may jeopardize my conjugal application? Because If i can stay for 4 months then the VO may think we can possibly become common law by living together one year. Is this true?

Look there is no chance i can extend my visa for a year to become common law. I am suffer in severe hot climate and i will have hard time during summer in the philippines. My health will be compromise.

What are special circumstances i can prove to VO that im not able to live with my partner for 1 year?
 

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canadalover4987 said:
Im canadian citizen and i will be applying conjugal app for my partner very soon. I have question and i hope you can help.

Technically, i can only stay in PHilippines for 30 days as a viisitor or up to 59 days. I got a philippine tourist visa good for 4 months. Is it true that if i extend and are able to stay longer this may jeopardize my conjugal application? Because If i can stay for 4 months then the VO may think we can possibly become common law by living together one year. Is this true?

Look there is no chance i can extend my visa for a year to become common law. I am suffer in severe hot climate and i will have hard time during summer in the philippines. My health will be compromise.

What are special circumstances i can prove to VO that im not able to live with my partner for 1 year?
Has your partner been rejected for a visit visa to Canada, where you could get married legally?
Have you looked at getting married in another country that's easier for Philippines citizens to travel to, that allow same-sex/transgender marriage?
 

canadalover4987

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She was refused in canada once, then we tried in usa but also refused
 

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I was hoping yo marry her in US but she was not allowed by tourist visa
 

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canadalover4987 said:
I was hoping yo marry her in US but she was not allowed by tourist visa
With those refusals, limitations of visa to stay in Philippines, and legal marriage not possible in Philippines... a conjugal app is certainly your best option.

Your main concern should be proving you are indeed in a conjugal or marriage-like relationship with your partner. So by now you should have things like insurance policies with each other as beneficiary, listed in your will, shared financial accounts (not sure if possible if not living in the same country), etc.
If you haven't already, read this document, section 5.25. Characteristics of conjugal relationships: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/op/op02-eng.pdf
 

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We have that already...l we have all required marriage like relationship... Insurance, wills, money transfer, travel abroad, pics, etc..

What im afraid is if the VO will ask me why i cant stay in philippines to be in common law since its possible to extend my visitors visa.

How can i further prove that common law is not my option?
 

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How can i prove that common law and spouse sponsorship are not best for me, in other words how to prove that conjugal route is the best
 

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Are there other reasons you can't stay, such as having a Canadian job etc? Can you get your doctor to write something about your health condition?
 

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canadalover4987 said:
How can i prove that common law and spouse sponsorship are not best for me, in other words how to prove that conjugal route is the best
I would think the fact you can't get a visa valid for 12 months in the Philippines, would be a suitable enough immigration barrier. There are some threads here dedicated to conjugal apps so perhaps you can also ask your questions there.
 

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Aquakitty said:
Are there other reasons you can't stay, such as having a Canadian job etc? Can you get your doctor to write something about your health condition?
im a pensioner in my late 60's. Im sure that i cannot qualified to work in the philippines because of my age. Philippines has age qualification for laborer.

My health is pretty much stable but i cant handle too much cold and too much warm. Basically i want to prove that common law is not option for me. I want to know how will i tell VO that i cant stay with my partner for 1 year.

I want to make sure that conjugal will work for me.
 

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Rob_TO said:
I would think the fact you can't get a visa valid for 12 months in the Philippines, would be a suitable enough immigration barrier. There are some threads here dedicated to conjugal apps so perhaps you can also ask your questions there.
Unfortunately he's mistaken on the visa front. I'm currently living in the Philippines on tourist visa, you can extend 6 months at a time, for a maximum of 24 months without issue, or up to 36 months with an application for special approval; which with talking to the officer at the BI informed wouldn't be an issue if I required it.

Health issue on the other hand may be a valid reason, in the end it would be up to the VO.
 

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canadalover4987 said:
im a pensioner in my late 60's. Im sure that i cannot qualified to work in the philippines because of my age. Philippines has age qualification for laborer.

My health is pretty much stable but i cant handle too much cold and too much warm. Basically i want to prove that common law is not option for me. I want to know how will i tell VO that i cant stay with my partner for 1 year.

I want to make sure that conjugal will work for me.
I was referring to work in Canada, not the Philipines. And that's what I was trying to suggest, ideas for reasons you can give to the VO as to why you can't stay in the Philippines for the required 12 months. I think you are correct in being concerned about the visa extension, but I could be wrong about how high they set the bar for this. Just based on what I've read here, conjugal is a more difficult process. If you just say you are "too hot" they might just say "well why didn't you get an air conditioner" or who knows what. You should get some kind of medical referral, or at least explain it very convincingly.

Conjugal apps are the most difficult to get approvals on, and you know you have a lot of proof as to why you could not become common-law or get married.

Is there any way you could perhaps travel to another country like New Zealand and get married?
 

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Aquakitty said:
I was referring to work in Canada, not the Philipines. And that's what I was trying to suggest, ideas for reasons you can give to the VO as to why you can't stay in the Philippines for the required 12 months. I think you are correct in being concerned about the visa extension, but I could be wrong about how high they set the bar for this. Just based on what I've read here, conjugal is a more difficult process. If you just say you are "too hot" they might just say "well why didn't you get an air conditioner" or who knows what. You should get some kind of medical referral, or at least explain it very convincingly.

Conjugal apps are the most difficult to get approvals on, and you know you have a lot of proof as to why you could not become common-law or get married.

Is there any way you could perhaps travel to another country like New Zealand and get married?
my insurance wont be applicable in the philippines. If i get sick it will be a disaster. Plus my maintenance medicines which im getting from canada will all be gone. I tried marrying my partner in usa but she was denied a tourist visa, how can we assure if new zealand will grant her or refuse her.

I dont think its nice to get many refusal from these countries. I dont want VO to think that we get married for her to gain entry in canada.

Thats why im asking if VO will consider health issues not to be common law.
 

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Does VO understand that the reason why i cant do common law is due to my health reasons? Im going to sponsor my partner
 

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canadalover4987 said:
my insurance wont be applicable in the philippines. If i get sick it will be a disaster. Plus my maintenance medicines which im getting from canada will all be gone. I tried marrying my partner in usa but she was denied a tourist visa, how can we assure if new zealand will grant her or refuse her.

I dont think its nice to get many refusal from these countries. I dont want VO to think that we get married for her to gain entry in canada.

Thats why im asking if VO will consider health issues not to be common law.
Refusals are good, not bad, as they show you are trying every possibility before going conjugal. They won't affect the PR application.

You need to explain the situation to them in writing as you have here. Get a note from your doctor regarding your medications as well. Now that you explained these details it sounds better, in my opinion. Just be sure to tell THEM all this in your conjugal application.