Issue with my Visa Status

[deepika.vathyam]

Hi

I applied canada educational visa on 8th july 2016 for MBA program in NYIT college - Vancouver.

Notorized Documents submitted:
Academic marks memo( 10th, Inter and Btech( with 12 backlogs completed with in 4years course )
Educational loan letter ( 24Lakhs)
CA letter mentioning all the property details
Medical letter
GIC certificate (5Lakhs)
College tution fees paid receipt ( 2Lakhs)
college admission letter
Ielts certificate( L: 7, R: 6.5, S: 7.5 and W: 5.5 total : 6.5)
Professional work documents( I completed btech in 2009 hence i had all the work experience letters from 2009 to till date all submitted)

I linked my application online recently and on 13-09-2016 the final decision status shows as the application has been refused.But even till today the tracking status still shows that my application is being processed at banglore office.

Does this mean that my appliaction has been rejected. If yes what may be the reason .Please advise what should be done next .

Thanks

 

[MONTY39]

Need help regarding the application status.
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Hi

I applied canada educational visa on 8th july 2016 for MBA program in NYIT college - Vancouver.

Notorized Documents submitted:
Academic marks memo( 10th, Inter and Btech( with 12 backlogs completed with in 4years course )
Educational loan letter ( 24Lakhs)
CA letter mentioning all the property details
Medical letter
GIC certificate (5Lakhs)
College tution fees paid receipt ( 2Lakhs)
college admission letter
Ielts certificate( L: 7, R: 6.5, S: 7.5 and W: 5.5 total : 6.5)
Professional work documents( I completed btech in 2009 hence i had all the work experience letters from 2009 to till date all submitted)

I linked my application online recently and on 13-09-2016 the final decision status shows as the application has been refused.But even till today the tracking status still shows that my application is being processed at banglore office.

Does this mean that my appliaction has been rejected. If yes what may be the reason .Please advise what should be done next .

Thanks

Hi Deepika,

Sorry to hear that but your application has been refused. The online status is more accurate as once high commission hands over your passport (if submitted) to VFS then they will only update the status on VFS website. Await email from high commission on the reasons for Refusal.

 

[deepika.vathyam]

Hi

Thanks for your reply . Could you please suggest me how can i proceed further

Hi Deepika,

Sorry to hear that but your application has been refused. The online status is more accurate as once high commission hands over your passport (if submitted) to VFS then they will only update the status on VFS website. Await email from high commission on the reasons for Refusal.

 

[MONTY39]

You need to await for the refusal reasons and its already too late for Sept intake as Canadian Cap for student Visa is exhausted.
You can defer your intake for next session if your college/university allows you and if they don't then you need to start applying to fresh colleges/universities. If you have time, you may also apply for CAIPS notes which will give the exact reason for your rejection.
As far as I know: Your finances might be an issue. Which bank gave you the loan? GIC is not required in case of University application, although you can still submit but it gives an indication to the visa officer that your finances are weak.
Source of funds, Family income can also be an issue.
Besides, IELTS of 5.5 band is not acceptable score. You have 7 yrs of gap after grad which makes you a potential migrate case and since you are availing huge loans that also indicates your level of establishment in your own country is not up to the mark.
Also, Btech and MBA are completely different courses and fields. Unlike India/UK, not everyone is eligible for MBA/Business courses in Canada.
Most of the points in your case had flaws and your rejection will have more than one reason. In General category, for students who have more than 5yrs of gap, it is always a risky chance of getting a student Visa. In your case, your finances should have been very strong with better IELTS and Course selection.

 

[harvijay1001]

You need to await for the refusal reasons and its already too late for Sept intake as Canadian Cap for student Visa is exhausted.
You can defer your intake for next session if your college/university allows you and if they don't then you need to start applying to fresh colleges/universities. If you have time, you may also apply for CAIPS notes which will give the exact reason for your rejection.
As far as I know: Your finances might be an issue. Which bank gave you the loan? GIC is not required in case of University application, although you can still submit but it gives an indication to the visa officer that your finances are weak.
Source of funds, Family income can also be an issue.
Besides, IELTS of 5.5 band is not acceptable score. You have 7 yrs of gap after grad which makes you a potential migrate case and since you are availing huge loans that also indicates your level of establishment in your own country is not up to the mark.
Also, Btech and MBA are completely different courses and fields. Unlike India/UK, not everyone is eligible for MBA/Business courses in Canada.
Most of the points in your case had flaws and your rejection will have more than one reason. In General category, for students who have more than 5yrs of gap, it is always a risky chance of getting a student Visa. In your case, your finances should have been very strong with better IELTS and Course selection.

While you make a lot of valid points worth considering, I feel the single most important reason is the university choice.

NYIT-Vancouver. Sorry. Not worth the investment you're making. VO knows who won't get an ROI with an MBA from that university in your home country.

I believe it's a university that admits you to MBA without GMAT(I'm not sure so I'm assuming), so that's another negative point.

 

[harvijay1001]

Also BTech+MBA is perfectly acceptable once you have a good GMAT score, an admit from a reputed B.School and a good SOP

My peers from my undergrad are at Rotman(University of Toronto) with GMAT scores close to 680-700 and got visa without IELTS

 

[MONTY39]

While you make a lot of valid points worth considering, I feel the single most important reason is the university choice.

NYIT-Vancouver. Sorry. Not worth the investment you're making. VO knows who won't get an ROI with an MBA from that university in your home country.

I believe it's a university that admits you to MBA without GMAT(I'm not sure so I'm assuming), so that's another negative point.

Yes true, I knew about it but although I did not mention it as its quite early to say that about the university. Her case appeared like a sure rejection from the day she submitted the application. Lot of flaws in the application and its a clear case of Potential Migrate. NYIT is not even a Canadian University(preferred by those who could not seek admission in any other Canadian University) and besides the course fee is exorbitant to study in a two floored office premises.
Besides unsound finance, IELTS of 5.5, MBA after Btech and 7 yrs of work but still opting entire course fee as loan also makes the candidate an unestablished person in their own country. A lot of students feel MBA/Business course can be done after any degree which does not imply in Canada. It should be in line with previous study and with a similar management experience.
Besides, in such cases even a sound SOP does not convince the VO to take a decision in your favor.
A lot of things including her backlogs have gone wrong and the entire application does not give a single reason for approval.
Its sad and disheartening I know, but its easier to walk with reality rather than facing failures due to Money Conning Agents.

 

[MONTY39]

Also BTech+MBA is perfectly acceptable once you have a good GMAT score, an admit from a reputed B.School and a good SOP

My peers from my undergrad are at Rotman(University of Toronto) with GMAT scores close to 680-700 and got visa without IELTS

UofT is an awesome University and with this GMAT score, it becomes a further strong case. Yes, Btech can be followed with MBA in the precise technical domain followed by good management experience. Undergrad courses do not require experience, but MBA sure does.
Besides, 7 years is an exponential gap and you really need to justify your choice of studies along with an excellent educational, financial and work experience background.

 

[deepika.vathyam]

Thanks. Will check the reasons.
Can i apply for PR , will the education vusa rejections effect the PR.

Thanks

UofT is an awesome University and with this GMAT score, it becomes a further strong case. Yes, Btech can be followed with MBA in the precise technical domain followed by good management experience. Undergrad courses do not require experience, but MBA sure does.
Besides, 7 years is an exponential gap and you really need to justify your choice of studies along with an excellent educational, financial and work experience background.

 

[MONTY39]

The education rejection will not affect your PR application.
However, once you apply for PR, you should not re-consider for Student Visa.
Also, for PR you need to show strong financial background so work towards that.
Launch an EE profile and appear for IELTS-General. Also, get your score evaluated before hand before getting conned by any agent.
Anything below 450 is not advisable and less likely to get an Invitation.
Continue your job and do not have any employment gaps.
All the Best.

 

[deepika.vathyam]

Yeah sure. As per your previous replies it shows me that reapplying again with different university also will leads to rejection.

The education rejection will not affect your PR application.
However, once you apply for PR, you should not re-consider for Student Visa.
Also, for PR you need to show strong financial background so work towards that.
Launch an EE profile and appear for IELTS-General. Also, get your score evaluated before hand before getting conned by any agent.
Anything below 450 is not advisable and less likely to get an Invitation.
Continue your job and do not have any employment gaps.
All the Best.

 

[MONTY39]

Yeah sure. As per your previous replies it shows me that reapplying again with different university also will leads to rejection.

Thats just My opinion and you can re-apply for studies if you can change the present situation:
Get a Good IELTS score- Min 7 and nothing less than 6.5
Improve your finances and show strong home ties.
Submit a strong SOP mentioning your backlogs and reasons. Also cover all the reasons for your previous rejection.
Submit all backlog certificates.
Choose a Course which matches your previous study and area of work.
If possible, for MBA try and choose a specialization which matches your past qualification and shows a career alignment.
Although, I am not sure if Choice of University might effect the decision until its on the DLI list of CIC, however, our previous discussion on NYIT is an overview and might affect your future prospects in Canada. If you are very keen on MBA, appear for GMAT or GRE and get a competitive score.
Overall, you should try and project a strong profile with the ability to support your education and return back to India.
Get CAIPS notes to determine precise reasons of refusal.
A lot of students who are ignorant initially due to Persuasive agents suffer as Canadian Visa is not so easy to obtain.
Good Luck and All the Best.

 

[Gymguy]

Besides, 7 years is an exponential gap and you really need to justify your choice of studies along with an excellent educational, financial and work experience background.

Monty, Sorry my 2 cents : My relative got visa last year with 7+ years of experience (when you have experience CIC doesn't count it as gap). He is B.tech and got into SPP college into Project Management course. Rest all your advice is gem and quite helpful for other visa aspiring candidates besides the OP. Cheers.

 

[MONTY39]

Monty, Sorry my 2 cents : My relative got visa last year with 7+ years of experience (when you have experience CIC doesn't count it as gap). He is B.tech and got into SPP college into Project Management course. Rest all your advice is gem and quite helpful for other visa aspiring candidates besides the OP. Cheers.

Hey Gymie, I agree that gap isn't a concern but I meant it in this case specifically. As anyone with longer gap becomes a Potential Migrate in the view of a case officer, so you need to have a strong case to justify your study plans, past track record and strong finances.
I have also come across people who have secured VISA after 10-12 years of gap. And thats why I advised the candidate here to re-apply by changing her present scenario. As most of the VO know that students prefer to stay back after their course completes but like EE, they will want highly competent people to stay back. The Comprehensive Ranking System was designed to get the best of the lot by evaluating on a point scale and PNP is predominantly based on your level of establishment and financial, educational background.

Although My suggestion can be a bit upfront and candid but I want the candidate to better all the previous mistakes in order to avoid future repetitions. With increasing rejections, its becoming a cause of worry for all aspiring students. And I sure blame it on the agents.
My advice is to leave no room for errors.

Cheers

 

[MONTY39]

One more surprising factor is that as per the top MBA universities in Canada, 6.5 is the min score in individual bands required to get an admit. Writing is the most important factor and NYIT admitting at 5.5 is shocking.