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deorc

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Feb 10, 2014
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Hi,

I am from Bangladesh. I am planning to go Canada on work-permit visa. Here a local recruitment agent has offered me a offer.

I want know if his offer is valid or legal in Canada as he is asking for some advanced payment of the total cost. How would I know if the agent is not fraud and it will bring a job offer letter from a legitimate employer from Canada? His offer is quoted as following:

Job: Computer operator
Processing time : maximum 7 months.
Salary : 2000-2500 Canadian Dollar.
Job contact : 2 years.
After 2 years, you can renew your visa also apply for PR.
Total costing : 9 lac taka.
Advance payment: 4 lac taka.
Food, Living & Medical are free.
You will get A / C pay cheque against your advance payment from the Company.
Job location : Toronto.
Possibility to get LMO 95%
Possibility to get visa 99%if you get LMO Then.
Thanks for communication.
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,933
22,173
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
If they are asking you for money and you have never met or interviewed with the employer - then it's probably a scam.
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
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Category........
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Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
I was not aware that "Computer operator" was a skill that was in short supply amongst the citizen/PR population.
The 95% chance of getting an LMO seems optimistic at best.

I concur with Scylla... This smells fishy.
 

deorc

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Feb 10, 2014
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scylla said:
If they are asking you for money and you have never met or interviewed with the employer - then it's probably a scam.
Thank you for replying.

So Should I ask for an interview with the employer before paying anything in advanced? And how would I know if the interviewer is not fake also on the other side in Canada?

Although if they do not arrange for an interview right now, they may do it after paying some in advance, as they might give some guarantee to refund my advance payment if they fail to get LMO/visa for me. as they are talking about some A/C account.
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
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Category........
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Visa Office......
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App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
If you name the agency and/or possible employer, people may recognise them and be able to give you more detailed feedback.
 

deorc

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Feb 10, 2014
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zardoz said:
I was not aware that "Computer operator" was a skill that was in short supply amongst the citizen/PR population.
The 95% chance of getting an LMO seems optimistic at best.

I concur with Scylla... This smells fishy.
Actually here is his actual advertisement below:

Work Permit For CANADA

Posted by kings Alliance International Consultant Limited (Business ad) 06 Feb 9:41 pm, Banani
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Details for visa.
Contact : 2 years
Job category : Hotel & Restaurants based,IT based,Shopping Mall based etc.
Type : Unskilled job.
City : Toronto
Processing time : maximum 7 months.
Salary : 1500-2000$.
It's renewal and you can apply for PR.
Total costing : negotiable.
Advance : negotiable.
Candidates Requirements :
Age : below 50 years.
Education : minimum H.S.C.
Experience : Preferable
Medical : Fit
If you want to go abroad then come to my office for details or call # 01678792478.
As early as possible come to our office and registration.
Limited candidate, short time

original link: bikroy.com/en/work-permit-for-canada-dhaka
After seeing that ad, I asked if there is any job for IT based, and he said, yes, and that's a post of a computer operator's job.
 

deorc

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Feb 10, 2014
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zardoz said:
If you name the agency and/or possible employer, people may recognise them and be able to give you more detailed feedback.
Ok I will ask him about the employers detail, if he gives details, I will post here later. Thank you for replying.


In the mean time, it would be helpful if you guys know any Bangladeshi legitimate local agent here in this forum (as I am new to this forum ) that I can contact to, to get some help.
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
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Category........
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Visa Office......
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App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
I have done some research into the www.kaicbd.com domain, which is the one claiming to be "kings Alliance International Consultant Limited" at http://www.kaicbd.com/home.php

The domain was registered less than a month ago, so I am going to go with my gut instinct and call "scam".

Domain Name: KAICBD.COM
Registry Domain ID:
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.publicdomainregistry.com
Registrar URL: www.publicdomainregistry.com
Updated Date: 19-Jan-2014
Creation Date: 19-Jan-2014
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 19-Jan-2015
Registrar: PDR Ltd. d/b/a PublicDomainRegistry.com
Registrar IANA ID: 303
Registrar Abuse Contact Email: abuse-contact @ publicdomainregistry.com
Registrar Abuse Contact Phone: +1-2013775952
Domain Status: clientTransferProhibited
Registry Registrant ID: DI_12588483
Registrant Name: Md Sharifuddin Shakil
Registrant Organization: N/A
Registrant Street: 37 (Floor 6/B), Road : Lakedrive Road Sector : 07, Uttara
Registrant City: Dhaka
Registrant State/Province: Dhaka
Registrant Postal Code: 1230
Registrant Country: BD
Registrant Phone: +88.01553592400
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax:
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: shakilm84 @ gmail.com
Registry Admin ID: DI_12588483
Also, the web site is a single page, unfinished as it has this on it..
Populr Post

Lorem Ipsum is simply dummy text of the printing.

1 February 2014

Lorem Ipsum is simply dummy text of the printing.

1 February 2014
My "ScamOMeter" is going off like crazy.....
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
95,933
22,173
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
This is absolutely a scam. The job posting makes no sense and zardoz's findings confirm this company was set up recently which further supports this is a scam. The latin displayed on the web pages is also a dead giveaway this is a scam. This is very frequently a "feature" of scam web sites.

Don't give them any money.

If you do give them money, you will never see that money again and you will end up with no job in Canada at the end.
 

deorc

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Feb 10, 2014
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Thank you all of you. Yes this domain registry check ensures it's scam. Also I asked him the following question through email, and then he stopped replying further.

1. So after two year how much would I have to spend to renew my visa? And how many times I will be permitted to renew that job?
2. What exactly the purpose of A / C pay cheque? How can it help me if I do not get positive LMO? How that 4 lakh could be refundable, or how much of that 4 lakh?

3. Can I pay the rest 5 lakh or some of total 9 lakh cost after going into Canada from my salary?
4. How can I be confirmed that my employer and his offer is valid and legitimate before paying in advance?

5. How long is the work hour?
6. Can I change my employer after two years and get work permit under another employer?
7. Is it possible to get PR after 2 years?
I am happy I did not believe them without asking valid questions. I see many such scams are here too posting on local buy/sell or craiglist sites. This country is full of frauds and scams.
 

deorc

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Feb 10, 2014
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But some are offering all payments after getting confirm visa, may be they are legit. Let's see how they response after asking about the employers in Canada.
 

zardoz

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Feb 2, 2013
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2,167
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Category........
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Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
We have heard of some people suspecting that the actual visa in their passports is also faked, along with known fake LMO documents. This is difficult to check out until you are in front of a CBSA officer, who then tells you if it's a fake or not. You can guess what happens if it is... :( :(
 

deorc

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Feb 10, 2014
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Ok I have another question.

Is there any possibility or way to get work permit for any UNSKILLED worker legally? Here some are offering jobs in Hotel in Canada and all payments are after getting visa. I am not sure if they are not fraud also. And I am not sure if Canada takes Unskilled or inexperienced workers in any condition.

Actually, I do not have the related experience with my academic Background (MBA + Hons.) because of the scarcity of job opportunities here .
 

zardoz

VIP Member
Feb 2, 2013
13,298
2,167
Canada
Category........
FAM
Visa Office......
London
App. Filed.......
16-02-2013
VISA ISSUED...
31-07-2013
LANDED..........
09-11-2013
As you can see, it's very difficult. Beware of the "Hotel in Canada" jobs as well. many of those are known, proven, scams. Usually the first you hear about them is an email to you. Basically, keep trying but if you are at all unsure, ask here...
 

deorc

Newbie
Feb 10, 2014
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Thank you @ zardoz

I will be asking here, if I get any more questions in future, I am glad to find this very helpful forum.

Regards.