Is this a complex sponsorship case? am I in trouble?

[MexiCana]

Unless he has a genuine fear of persecution he should not file a refugee claim because to do so would be fraudulent. Refugee claims are not a "get into Canada for free card," they are intended to protect persons who face real risk in their countries of origin.

You mentioned that you can't afford a lawyer. If you are eligible for legal aid, here is a link to a clinic in your city. http://classiclaw.ca/index.html

Your case is complex, and we're all a bunch of strangers on the internet who have very limited information about your situation. You need to obtain professional advice before making any big decisions.

 

[iarblue]

I think she already made the big decissions shes married and pregnant.Girl you just really got to find out how he got into canada,and if he is who he says he is,if he got into Canada legally which i cant see,they do ask some questions even if they are very few they do ask some,they dont just keep the window closed and wave you on.they ask where your from and where your going and for what.
I have been going through the US canada border for 20 years almost weekly and never once did i drive up to the booth and they just wave there is always a ciouple questions .
just tell him you need to do police reports in the middle east and the US and he needs to do a medical he can do the medical in Canada,but must order the police reports.And then if that pans out then do the rest,but without those forms you cant even finish the app for sponsorship.
And if he did get through the border legally then he will have to apply for an extension after 6 months but if they didnt stamp his passport then they have no idea when he arrived.

 

[canadianwoman]

He's from a country where you need a visa to enter Canada, but he doesn't have a visa in his passport. Therefore he is here illegally. It doesn't matter if he was just lucky and actually drove up to the boarder and they just waved him through. If he needed a visa, he should have shown them the visa.
This case as it is will not be accepted by CIC for a PR. There are cases where the couple have a child together (usually a child means the PR will be approved) and yet the visa officer and the appeal judge still decide it was a marriage of convenience, and a child of convenience, and refuse to issue a visa.

However, if you live together long enough, and actually have the child, and he is actively involved in his child and his stepchild's life, you will be able to collect a lot of proof of a genuine marriage. You will need a lot of proof, because all evidence from before the marriage is pointing toward the marriage being fake. Therefore evidence from after the marriage will have to be overwhelming.

If he won't even be honest with you about his past life in the USA, his identity, and how he got into Canada, it really looks like he is using you. When it coomes to the interview for the PR, you will probably come across as honest, but you and he will probably not be able to hide the confusion and lack of trust surrounding his life, and the visa officer won't believe him.

 

[Saskatoon-Tree]

I am torn. I am in cross roads. I am in moral dilemma right now.
He answered me :'I came all the way to marry you because I love you. I took every risk to do so, as you were unable to travel to US. You had never asked me how I came here, and if you did I would have answered you directly". Clearly he made his way to Canada somehow but he has his real IDs, with him right now. We explored all options. He is willing to travel back to his country, as early as tomorrow. Then we can start an outland application. If I do that, I am not 100% comfortable. If I go and report him, to RCMP or CBSA, it means the end of the marriage and relationship. If I keep silent and let it goes, I wouldn't feel good either.
I can't make my mind. My head is cut into pieces. I am thinking of my daughter, who has not seen her own biological father for several years. She has been through all the pain, side by side with me....from the brutal treatment we both received from my ex husband till the new surprise of the new husband. I just wanted to get married, get settled and feel happy. I am thinking of the little baby in my womb. I am so sick right now.
Thank you for your support.

 

[canadianwoman]

He answered me :'I came all the way to marry you because I love you. I took every risk to do so, as you were unable to travel to US. You had never asked me how I came here, and if you did I would have answered you directly". .

So he still hasn't told you how he got in! That is a liar's way of answering a question: You: I just want to know how you got here. He: Well, if you had asked me directly I would have told you.
And then not telling you. Bizarre.
However, you don't have to report him to CIC or Border Services. When he goes back to his own country and you start the PR application process, he will have to admit in the application how he got into Canada. It will be discovered during the police check or security check, so his best option is just to admit it in the application. If you decide you really do love him and trust him and want to be married to him, that is.
Having come into the country illegally does not mean his PR application will be refused. If you can convince the visa officer or appeal judge that you have a genuine marriage, he could still get a PR. A friend of my husband's entered the USA illegally, then entered Canada illegally, married a Canadian, then had a conviction for DUI and resisting arrest, and was then deported. His first wife refused to sponsor him, so he divorced and married another Canadian he barely knew. She sponsored him and he got a PR visa. Through the Ghana office, the toughest in the world.

 

[Saskatoon-Tree]

Having come into the country illegally does not mean his PR application will be refused. If you can convince the visa officer or appeal judge that you have a genuine marriage, he could still get a PR. A friend of my husband's entered the USA illegally, then entered Canada illegally, married a Canadian, then had a conviction for DUI and resisting arrest, and was then deported. His first wife refused to sponsor him, so he divorced and married another Canadian he barely knew. She sponsored him and he got a PR visa. Through the Ghana office, the toughest in the world.

canadianwoman

He told me all about his story last evening, of course. He entered USA illegally, stayed there for 4 y, and then entered Canada illegally...same way. The whole situation is devastating. But has no criminal record, and has never been deported. The immigration case of your husband's friend is even more complicated. At this moment, I need to make a decision. I can't decide right now because I am emotionally unstable. I am not sure how your friend did manage to get his PR from Ghana, giving his history. Can this history offer me a hope??

 

[Siouxie]

I am torn. I am in cross roads. I am in moral dilemma right now.
He answered me :'I came all the way to marry you because I love you. I took every risk to do so, as you were unable to travel to US. You had never asked me how I came here, and if you did I would have answered you directly". Clearly he made his way to Canada somehow but he has his real IDs, with him right now. We explored all options. He is willing to travel back to his country, as early as tomorrow. Then we can start an outland application. If I do that, I am not 100% comfortable. If I go and report him, to RCMP or CBSA, it means the end of the marriage and relationship. If I keep silent and let it goes, I wouldn't feel good either.
I can't make my mind. My head is cut into pieces. I am thinking of my daughter, who has not seen her own biological father for several years. She has been through all the pain, side by side with me....from the brutal treatment we both received from my ex husband till the new surprise of the new husband. I just wanted to get married, get settled and feel happy. I am thinking of the little baby in my womb. I am so sick right now.
Thank you for your support.

The answer is that he is here illegally and I suggest that he returns to his home country as soon as possible and you can then make an application for outland PR.

If he returns home having "visited" illegally he shouldn't be considered inadmissible. He could apply for a visa to visit you in the meantime.

You say you are confused but you really don't have any choice as he isn't here legally... when you fill in the application forms it asks when and where he entered Canada. If he can't show he entered legally then he will be deemed inadmissible. He will not be granted PR.

Far better for him to return to his home country now and submit an outland application - if you are thinking of your daughter, imagine your husband being deported and not being allowed to re-enter Canada for 2 years.

I am still concerned for you.. marrying within 1 month of meeting in person isn't usual - who's idea was it? Why haven't you met any of his family or friends?

:-\

 

[Saskatoon-Tree]

I am studying and considering all options. I will have to make a decision, soon, whether I go ahead and sponsor him (outland) or kick him out and get a divorce. I am still questioning him and digging for further information.
I do believe that some other people know his situation or at least suspect. While I need time to make a life decision, while he is preparing to leave, I am asking the serious question: "what can happen if I report him or someone else reports him to Border Agency, Immigration, or RCMP?".....what can happen to me and my daughter (we are not citizen yet)?". Sometimes I get scared to death, some other time I take it easy, especially after reading the story of the friend of canadianwoman's husband. A Successful story like this will encourage others to try the same route. As a matter of fairness, my husband's story is less complicated compared to this one from canadianwoman's post.

 

[Siouxie]

Nothing will happen to you if he is reported to the RCMP or the Border Agency prior to a submission for PR - you have done nothing wrong. He is the one who will be in trouble!

However, if you strongly suspect that he is here for "immigration fraud" and you submit an application for him then, theoretically, you could be in trouble. http://www.cic.gc.ca/English/information/protection/fraud/marriage.asp#tphp%20idtphp

When you say you think others know of his situation, what do you mean? That he is here illegally or what his reasons are (and are you talking neighbours or his friends?).

It is a very difficult decision for you to make... my only advice is what my Dad used to say to me...

"When in doubt, don't"

Let him return to his country of origin (hmmmmm is there a way to ensure he does - can you buy his airline ticket and go to the airport to make sure he leaves?) and give yourself some space to think about your next step.

Take care.......

 

[annabruce]

Easy way to ensure that he does go home:

Apply outland to his country of origin. They WILL call an interview. He has to go home to attend the interview. If he doesn't attend the interview, I am sorry to say, you MUST file for divorce.

 

[Saskatoon-Tree]

Siouxie,

No, I have never been aware of his status. Only a few days ago I heard the ringing bells on searching for information on how to sponsor him. I, myself, came to Canada in a genuine marriage thu it ended into a chois and drama. I was kicked out, with my daughter in harsh winter (minus 25 C). If I had the ticket at that moment I would have gone back to my home country and never again to Canada. Luckily, I was picked by a woman organization to a shelter and from there I took my breath and collected my life' pieces together. It was the biggest trauma ever to my daughter. I dont agree / dont accept to break the law, in principles. If I had known or suspect earlier about this I would have been single forever and right now. Have I been naive, stupid, foolish, easy target....unbalanced.....the answer is "could be"...but I am a human too.

I, now, believe, that his friends in Canada and his relatives have been aware of what has been going on. I do believe that he got some help from them ..somehow. I do believe that they deceived me, and probably encouraged him to take the advantage.
I think, some people in the community here and neighbours are suspecting his status.

I repeat my question again: "what happens to HIM if he is reported before he leaves?".....I am seriously considering reporting him.

 

[peacekeeper]

Hi

IF you are in Saskatoon Visit OPEN DOOR SOCIETY, i think its on 100 3 Avenue North Saskatoon, SK S7K 2H4
There you can get some free help form some consultant, i think they might be able to find some solution for him, if you want to sponsor him...

 

[Siouxie]

Saskatoon-Tree don't be so hard on yourself. You were/are vulnerable and have been through so much already... maybe you were naive but you are probably a trusting and open person and somebody took advantage of you.

It sounds like his friends and family could have been in collusion on getting him to Canada, and though I hate to say it - possibly encouraged him to meet someone online with the intent of getting PR. Again, this is not your fault.. you went into the relationship with an open mind and open heart. Only you can know if he is with you for genuine reasons, we may all be misjudging him.

If you "kick him out" is there any guarantee that he will actually leave Canada or is it more likely that he will go to his relatives and go underground? If he tells you he will return to his homeland to wait out the application process, can you guarantee he will actually go?

If he does go back to his homeland then I think it could be that he is genuine... but only you can know that.

The first step is to get him a ticket to fly back and accompany him to the airport to ensure he leaves. Then you can take the time to get all the paperwork sorted out and reach a final decision as to whether you want to sponsor him or not.

As to "what will happen to him" ... they will interview him and may deport him if found to be illegally here.

If you want to report him annonymously you can do it here: http://cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/security-securite/bwl-lsf-eng.html

 

[drawoh]

No, he did not enter legally. I am not trying to blame the system but he produced and provided IDs and documentation for our marriage, including his marital status. Otherwise, we could not successfully get the licence to marry and then the marriage certificate. the marriage process gave me the confidence that his status was all right. He needed/needs a visa of course. He is originally from the Middle East but I am Hispanic. I still have some chats and emails yes

Hi i understand you situation i`m currently sponsoring my wife but my case is way simpler but believe me i know what people is capable of doing for love. (I end up in Germany looking for my first love)....any how now i happily married with my wife (Different person) ....anyhow what worries me about you case is how your now husband was able to get fake papers and enter Canada he being from the middle east proves that the system is not working and we could have a terrorist attack right in front on our noses nothing personal with the middle east folks but now days we have to be really careful Canada is not longer doing the paper of peace keeper not sure but were the at some point leading the NATO forces or we still are not sure, the point is if he was able to enter our country anyone can and they can cause hurt people we love.

And again Saskatoo- tree no es personal pero sabemos como la historia se ha repetido en muchos paises y muchas personas han muerto no queremos q eso pase aca y menos q algunos de nuestros familiares sea lastimado mi reclamo es para la authoridades q eviten q personas ilegales entren. Mucha suerte con tu caso.

 

[iarblue]

Well what i would do if i was you is call immigration tell them your concerns and ask if they can investigate him without him knowing.Then once they do and find out what is going on the most they will do is deport him back to his own country never to return here,no mater what he does,his finger prints and picture will be in their data base forever.
You can then find out how you can get your marriage anulled.I feel for you but you wont be the first or last taken for a ride by someone trying to get in to Canada or the US for that mater,dont blame yourself for this.
Now you need to be strong,call immigration and if they prove he is here legally and he is who he says he is then you will be fine if it all goes south he will be gone from your life as they will take him out of it.
Be strong....dont let men manipulate you....turn the table around this time.