I am working in IT around 12 years in Teamcenter, Java, J2EE, C++, C skill sets in India. Is it possible to search job in Canada from India? I am applying for a Canadian PR.
Is it possible to search job in Canada from India?
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No its not. And most importantly your Indian work experience is not transferable to Canadian work experience and they will not recognize it as Canadian work experience and hence you have to start with no work experience in Canada. Having said that if its that easy to look for a job from India then what will happen to hundreds of thousands of unemployed well qualified Canadians and PR holders already here looking for jobs. Get your PR, bring money from India, spend the money, look for a job, fulfill your quota of job application and rejection, frustration and humiliation. After lot of blood and sweat then maybe you could get an entry level job without benefits and then you can move up gradually. Thats pretty much the system here, if you cant beat it, roll with it.
Open your own business/freelance. Either that or food delivery.
Otherwise as the person above me said, don't get your hopes up. It really is that bad.
Otherwise as the person above me said, don't get your hopes up. It really is that bad.
Hi,newtone said:
It was really disappointing to read this. I didn't think that "Canadian Experience" is that much important.."Frustration and humiliation"?!?
My husband and I are both IT professionals and have really good experience here in Turkey. And we are earning good money. It won't be easy to convince my husband to move to Canada under these circumstances
How long does it take to find a job even it's not a very good one?
Assuming you define a not so good job as fast food resturant attendant. It should not take you that long. If you can speak english will you should be able to get a KFC or McDonalds job within a few weeks of landing. If you have a better job with good pay in Turkey I suggest you try settling there
pixiedust said:Hi,
It was really disappointing to read this. I didn't think that "Canadian Experience" is that much important.."Frustration and humiliation"?!?
My husband and I are both IT professionals and have really good experience here in Turkey. And we are earning good money. It won't be easy to convince my husband to move to Canada under these circumstances
How long does it take to find a job even it's not a very good one?
You didn't think that "Canadian Experience" is that much important?
If you really think that I strongly recommend you stay in Turkey. Canadian experience is everything. IT professionals here are dime a dozen. Many Canadian born IT professionals work at retail. Please google.
Hi,
Of course I know that it's important but what I meant was if you are experienced enough you might find a low paying but an actual "IT job" eventually.. You're giving really pessimistic messages. I have two friends living in Toronto (one of them is actually an IT professional working in a very big IT company and he was also an immigrant) and they say that it may take a while but it's not impossible as you imply.. By the way I'm already Turkish, and wanna move to Canada. And I'm always googling about job opportunities in Canada and I see lots of search for specialized people. Are you saying that those ads are fake?
Of course I know that it's important but what I meant was if you are experienced enough you might find a low paying but an actual "IT job" eventually.. You're giving really pessimistic messages. I have two friends living in Toronto (one of them is actually an IT professional working in a very big IT company and he was also an immigrant) and they say that it may take a while but it's not impossible as you imply.. By the way I'm already Turkish, and wanna move to Canada. And I'm always googling about job opportunities in Canada and I see lots of search for specialized people. Are you saying that those ads are fake?
The ads are not fake but often times company already has someone in mind internally or in the scope of a contract position. They post ads so that company have done their part to advertise for the job legally. Its not a pessimistic message rather a reality check so that you dont get the shock of your life once you are here and then have a really bad impression abour Canada. As a matter of fact we are helping you to condition yourself for what might lie ahead of you. So please dont have any high hopes cause reality is very different from theorypixiedust said:
Google adverts are not representative of job market as the vast majority of job vacancies in Canada are never advertised - positions are filled by networking and contacts, or current employee referring their friends. Have you asked those Toronto immigrants how they found their jobs? Something tells me they were referred to this position by someone else, met the recruiter at some networking event or took a similar path.
Yes, it is not impossible to get a quality job here, but it will not be an easy bone.
Yes, it is not impossible to get a quality job here, but it will not be an easy bone.
pixiedust said:
Hmmm.. It was really disappointing to read your comments but I really want to thank you for the information you have given.. It's been an enlightenment..
It seems that it's really a big effort.. We have to think more carefully under the given circumstances..
But isn't it odd that CIO opened up 4000 cap for the IT professionals under the skilled worker program? If job opportunities are that limited why to invite more unemployed people? Doesn't this action put unemployed Canadians (or immigrants) to a more difficult situation?
Don't you think that the government would take this kind of an action if they didn't have a plan? I read somewhere that the Canada government plans to make Toronto an IT center for the north America, like the silicon valley etc. Am I just being too optimistic - again??
It seems that it's really a big effort.. We have to think more carefully under the given circumstances..
But isn't it odd that CIO opened up 4000 cap for the IT professionals under the skilled worker program? If job opportunities are that limited why to invite more unemployed people? Doesn't this action put unemployed Canadians (or immigrants) to a more difficult situation?
Don't you think that the government would take this kind of an action if they didn't have a plan? I read somewhere that the Canada government plans to make Toronto an IT center for the north America, like the silicon valley etc. Am I just being too optimistic - again??
Thank you, you are absolutely correct and you are thinking logically, realistically and practically. Unfortunately logically thinking is frowned upon in Canada because it requires effort, as a matter of fact they'll look at you funny if you start talking logically or something that makes sense. Let me give you an example cause I love maths and I love logicpixiedust said:Hmmm.. It was really disappointing to read your comments but I really want to thank you for the information you have given.. It's been an enlightenment..
It seems that it's really a big effort.. We have to think more carefully under the given circumstances..
But isn't it odd that CIO opened up 4000 cap for the IT professionals under the skilled worker program? If job opportunities are that limited why to invite more unemployed people? Doesn't this action put Canadians (or immigrants) who are already unemployed and looking for a job in Canada?
Don't you think that the government would take this kind of an action if they didn't have a plan? I read somewhere that the Canada government plans to make Toronto an IT center for the north America, other than silicon valley etc. Am I just being too optimistic - again??
Please bear with me, here goes:
1. Every immigrant supposed to bring approximately $10,000/person under the skilled worker category. Which means you have to pass the points system by showing you have a degree related to your work experience. Higher the education and higher the work experience the greater the points.
2. Please keep in mind there has been no market research done on realistically how many jobs are currently available each year.
3. Some genius decided we need to import 250,000 immigrants per year so that it fills the "immigration quota only" without having to think about the job market.
4. So how much revenue does this bring to Canada $10,000 x 250,000 = $2500000000 ($2.5 billion). Now you want to ask the Prime Minister of Canada "If job opportunities are that limited why to invite more unemployed people?" Here is your answer
Now the government strategy is to prolong citizenship so that these highly qualified immigrants spend more money doing not so charming jobs and continually pay taxes, spend on over priced goods and services, buy real estate in order to show their intention is to settle here and do menial jobs.
The other question you had is "Don't you think that the government would take this kind of an action if they didn't have a plan?"
Absolutely but see you are again making the mistake of thinking logically which as you know is injurious to your health in Canadian context. They have a plan, they call it the "economic action plan". Beautifully worded and holds a lot of punch......."IN THEORY". To explain this to you in simple layman terms, this action plan tells Canadians, the world is changing, lets adapt to this change positively, we'll create highly paid contractual jobs with no benefits where companies can hire and fire you and we save tons of money. Thats all. So unless you are living in your mothers basement apartment (God bless her) and no worries about your career nor your future lets adapt to this plan because no one ever gets old and dies and we will be young, lead healthy lives and continually to live forever. Logically it doesnt make sense but in Canadian context it totally makes sense. Please let me know if your head hurts
cause I am starting to get a twitch in my right eye.But I'll humbly request you to come here otherwise you'll always have a chip on your shoulder about this great Canadian opportunity you have but never acted on. So please come here by all means and best of luck in your future endeavors. I have done my job to fill you on my honest opinion. The ultimate choice is yours speak to some other people and decide.
I think this is oversimplifying it a bit. Not every immigrant is required to bring $10,000 (i.e., family class, refugees, live in caregivers, etc.). The actual number of Skilled Workers is substantially lower than the 250k you mentioned. Further, your math assumes that each immigrant immediately spends all the money that they bring, without having generated any income from within Canada. Finally, your math also fails to account for the costs borne by the state for these immigrants (i.e., Child Tax benefits, schooling, healthcare, public infrastructure, etc.). So, if you actually look at it, the economic impact of, and contribution from, immigrant savings is far less than the $2.5 billion headline figure you mention.newtone said:4. So how much revenue does this bring to Canada $10,000 x 250,000 = $2500000000 ($2.5 billion). Now you want to ask the Prime Minister of Canada "If job opportunities are that limited why to invite more unemployed people?" Here is your answer
I said every immigrant that qualifies under the points system (this obviously excludes refugees, live in caregivers) is required to bring approximately $10,000. Its a law and I didnt create it.torontosm said:
My assumption is based on the fact that every immigrant needs a place to stay and food to eat. Lets break it down. Average cost of 1 bedroom in Toronto in $1000/month, cost of food per person per month is $400. Add up the total cost and divide $1400/month with $10,000. Thats approximately 7 months. Is it fair to say you need to be residing in Canada for roughly about that time to understand you need to be spending more money in order to stay longer?
Your statement assumes immigrants are coming with kids but there are also lots of immigrants who are single, divorced, separated, newly married etc.
You can get maximum Child tax benefit if you are not working. But we all know how hard life is going to be for you and your kid. However if you are working then child tax benefit is very nominal, almost negligent, health care costs are offset by the high taxes you are paying. Have you looked at your paycheck recently? So realistically healthcare is not free. Same with public infrastructure, you are paying a lot of taxes to support that too.
Fair enough, but then you went on to use the 250k figure that includes all immigrants, not just those who qualify under the points systemnewtone said:
I'm not sure what your point is. If you are working, then you are contributing to the economy and the immigration program works. If you are not working, you are a drain on the economy and the government is not realizing material benefits from your savings anyway.newtone said:
What about those immigrants who come here by not passing through the points system. Do they not spend money? or they just collect welfare cheques? which means tax payers are on the hook to pay more taxes. No wonder taxes have increased over the years. Either ways immigrants bring money, either beg, borrow or steal. Some have sold property, some have borrowed to invest in Canada so that 2 billion dollar revenue is very real and it could possibly be more.
My point is contrary to what you have said " Finally, your math also fails to account for the costs borne by the state for these immigrants ". These are not "costs" borne by the state its basically tax payers money given back to the tax payer. So if I am healthy then its complete waste of my money. If I dont have kids then its a waste of my money to people who have kids. If I am working hard for my money its basically going to an unemployed person dependent on a walfare cheque. So how is this fair to a healthy individual who is working hard for his money? But this is not the point of this thread. Someone asked about coming to Canada and I told them whats its like here. No sugar coated sales gimmick. Just raw facts
My point is contrary to what you have said " Finally, your math also fails to account for the costs borne by the state for these immigrants ". These are not "costs" borne by the state its basically tax payers money given back to the tax payer. So if I am healthy then its complete waste of my money. If I dont have kids then its a waste of my money to people who have kids. If I am working hard for my money its basically going to an unemployed person dependent on a walfare cheque. So how is this fair to a healthy individual who is working hard for his money? But this is not the point of this thread. Someone asked about coming to Canada and I told them whats its like here. No sugar coated sales gimmick. Just raw facts