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Is it good to tell in SS application about how many problems we have faced?

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iSuperman said:
Guys I understand what you all said but I am not clear how this topid moved to job thing.

Secondly, the situation was worse and I tried to enter Canada from different ways like creating express entry profiles, visitor visa and even expressed to move to Prince Edward island through PNP program. So my question is, should I explain in my application what was the problem and we did like I mentioned above?
I am not sure why you are getting such strange advice. Your question is straight forward.
If you have applied under other streams like express entry they will know that and wonder why you did not mention it. This is especially true if you got married after failing at other ways to immigrate. CIC may think marriage was your last resort and look at your case closely. So tell the truth and tell everything.
 

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iSuperman said:
hmmm.. Understanding your point. And it was just visitor visa rejected, express entry profile I withdrawn.

I'll then cut off such things from the story. Thanks for your advice.
your visitor visa rejection should be mentioned in the application where it specifically asks about visa rejections. the express entry profile has nothing to do with this application, and there is no question that specifically asks if you have ever applied for express entry, so there's no reason to mention it.

Sous02 said:
I am not sure why you are getting such strange advice. Your question is straight forward.
If you have applied under other streams like express entry they will know that and wonder why you did not mention it. This is especially true if you got married after failing at other ways to immigrate. CIC may think marriage was your last resort and look at your case closely. So tell the truth and tell everything.
the application does not ask if the applicant has ever APPLIED for immigration through other streams, i don't think. it specifically asks about failed/rejected applications. having an express entry "profile" that was withdrawn is not relavant to a sponsorship application as there was never an application submitted, and there is no reason to bring it up. it was the applicant's choice to withdraw, not IRCC's decision to reject an application. any visa REJECTIONS should be disclosed, as it is specifically asked about.

It's important to give answers that match the questions asked. if something isn't asked, it's not relavant and IRCC doesn't care or needs to know about it.
 

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Sous02 said:
I am not sure why you are getting such strange advice. Your question is straight forward.
If you have applied under other streams like express entry they will know that and wonder why you did not mention it. This is especially true if you got married after failing at other ways to immigrate. CIC may think marriage was your last resort and look at your case closely. So tell the truth and tell everything.
I am going to get mad now.. :(
 

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CDNPR2014 said:
your visitor visa rejection should be mentioned in the application where it specifically asks about visa rejections. the express entry profile has nothing to do with this application, and there is no question that specifically asks if you have ever applied for express entry, so there's no reason to mention it.
You think CIC will not have that information about the express entry? I respectfully disagree. If found to be hiding information you will guarantee a very close examination. Concentrate on telling the truth and providing lots of evidence of a genuine marriage.
 

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iSuperman said:
I am going to get mad now.. :(
If CIC gets to think marriage was your last resort to immigrate to canada, the future does not bode well for you.
You should have mentioned it.
You really should not keep secrets from CIC, remember, Honesty is the best Policy.
 

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Sous02 said:
You think CIC will not have that information about the express entry? I respectfully disagree. If found to be hiding information you will guarantee a very close examination. Concentrate on telling the truth and providing lots of evidence of a genuine marriage.
it is not hiding information if there is no specific question that asks for it. please tell me where an applicant should disclose the fact they started an express entry profile (which i don't believe is an actual application BTW), then withdrew it and never applied for immigration that way? how is that relavant to a spousal sponsorship application?

we tend to disagree on many things on this forum, so the op needs to make a decision that's best for his application. sometimes giving more information that is required works against you. IRCC isn't asking for applicants to give their life story and provide every single detail of their experiences. they are asking about the evolution of a spousal relationship and asking questions that help them decided if it's legit or not.

answer questions truthfully, provide clear answers that make sense, and don't elaborate on things that are not relavant to the question. that is what IRCC wants applicants to do.
 

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Sous02 said:
Some people saying DON'T mention it, some saying DO mention it.. I mean I am back at same thought when I asked this question and it is really serious for me to know the right path.
 

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iSuperman said:
Some people saying DON'T mention it, some saying DO mention it.. I mean I am back at same thought when I asked this question and it is really serious for me to know the right path.
you are always going to get varying opinions on this forum. at this point, you are getting stuck in analysis paralysis and it's time to just make a decision, look at your application, and answer the questions to the best of your ability. is the information you're questioning relavant to the questions asked in the application? if not, then why bother providing the information. if is, work it into your answers somehow. we are here to help you understand the process, not tell you what to write.
 

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CDNPR2014 said:
it is not hiding information if there is no specific question that asks for it. please tell me where an applicant should disclose the fact they started an express entry profile, then withdrew it and never applied for immigration that way? how is that relavant to a spousal sponsorship application?
There is a question where it asks for any other info that we think is good to support our relationship. Now even in it?
 

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iSuperman said:
Some people saying DON'T mention it, some saying DO mention it.. I mean I am back at same thought when I asked this question and it is really serious for me to know the right path.
I understand your frustration. I was surprised to read some of the responses to your question. Your question is simple. CIC has read millions of applications and any attempt to hide or not disclose something as obvious as an express entry application can only be bad. You have nothing to hide from so why not tell everything?
 

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iSuperman said:
There is a question where it asks for any other info that we think is good to support our relationship. Now even in it?
how does talking about a withdrawn express entry profile fit in with "other info that supports your relationship?" if you think it does, great, write something about it. if it doesn't add value, then leave it out.
 

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iSuperman said:
There is a question where it asks for any other info that we think is good to support our relationship. Now even in it?
That space is for relationship support documentation, not for you to disclose previous attempts at immigration fraud.
You can enclose an affidavit explaining how you tried to game the system before.
 

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jeffporfirio1 said:
That space is for relationship support documentation, not for you to disclose previous attempts at immigration fraud.
You can enclose an affidavit explaining how you tried to game the system before.
Like Joker's adage "Very poor choice of words".
 

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Sous02 said:
I understand your frustration. I was surprised to read some of the responses to your question. Your question is simple. CIC has read millions of applications and any attempt to hide or not disclose something as obvious as an express entry application can only be bad. You have nothing to hide from so why not tell everything?
My thought is same that I have nothing to hide and I wrote everything but now learning that not to tell everything! Not understanding a bit.. I use to read other posts and they don't hide and tell everything but here its different. I see cdn has valid point and so do you.

But what is the right way!