IS CANADA DREAM LAND OR NIGHT MARE???????

[rupeshhari]

Of course, Malta too. Doesn't it have some history with the Knights Templar? Actually, I used to read about your country because of its interesting history with aragon, genoa, napolean, british, etc.

Yep, UK has awesome universities. The best in UK are way above the best in Canada. I agree with you on the doctors example. The fact that UK doctors not being able to work in Canada has nothing to do with standards but rather mostly with protectionism. It is hard for a MIT or Caltech graduate to get an academic job in Canada because of new accreditation rule. Does it mean these universities are worse than Canadian ones in Engineering....i think not. But Canada also does have some great universities.

 

[BobbyB]

1)North America was discovered by Columbus - He was Italian and not British. Along with the British, North America was colonized by the spanish, french and the portuguese - so not only british but all European. Also, Queen Elizabeth is officially the Queen of Canada - A ROLE WHICH IS TOTALLY SEPERATE AND INDEPENDENT FROM HER ROLE AS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND. No overlap her - completely different. Also, she is ONLY a ceremonial head - she cannot even sign her own expense report - it has to be approved by the government of Canada first. SO BETTER READ UP ON HISTORY A BIT.

2) Talking of History, UK was once a ROMAN COLONY - documented History - so does that mean that UK is still inferior to Rome and Italy ? Maybe as per Bobby B's arguments I guess - in that case you should bow down every time you see someone from Rome.

3) The reason most British people migrate to Canada is because they do MANUAL LABOR JOBS which Canadians dont want to do - examples are Construction Workers and Caregiver Nannys. British workers in Canada remind me of Central American workers in the US - only difference they speak English even though with a very boring accent. So I will not be surprised if tomorrow we in Canada import Toilet Cleaners from the UK - for jobs Canadians will NOT do. I am sure the British will do them - just so they can stay in Canada. Just to give you an example - if you are a Canadian educated Doctor, you can easily work in UK but a British educated Doctor has a real tough time working as a Doctor in Canada and will probably end up driving a Taxi here. That shows how Canadians think of British education and experience - SUBSTANDARD.

Bottomline I appreciate you taking the side of the UK, but being a new Canadian - I will go with Canada - to me Canada is far far better than UK. But I hope you get your Canadian PR soon - after all you have been waiting so long for that - is it 3 years or more I guess ???Long Wait !!!!

Unfortunately, your arguments, way of discussion and tone including the examples you give are very childish/babyish. I am sure you are one of those who have tried in vain (first to migrate to the UK) and have definitely been let down.
By the way, would you tell us which country you have emigrated from? I'd like to know.

But I hope you get your Canadian PR soon - after all you have been waiting so long for that - is it 3 years or more I guess ???Long Wait !!!!

So what, If I have been waiting for ca. 2.5 Years. I am sure I will get it , it is just a matter of time. No problems. We are earning enough here in the UK, and will be able to bring enough with us to invest in your new found country. At least I am sure of buying a house(Mortage free) and a Condo to rent out as well. .
Anyway, People have been waiting for over 4 to 5 Years too. Whose fault? Is that something to be proud of, that Canada keeps people waiting for years?

 

[orchan_pasha]

Unfortunately, your arguments, way of discussion and tone including the examples you give are very childish/babyish. I am sure you are one of those who have tried in vain (first to migrate to the UK) and have definitely been let down.
By the way, would you tell us which country you have emigrated from? I'd like to know.

But I hope you get your Canadian PR soon - after all you have been waiting so long for that - is it 3 years or more I guess ???Long Wait !!!!

So what, If I have been waiting for ca. 2.5 Years. I am sure I will get it , it is just a matter of time. No problems. We are earning enough here in the UK, and will be able to bring enough with us to invest in your new found country. At least I am sure of buying a house(Mortage free) and a Condo to rent out as well. .
Anyway, People have been waiting for over 4 to 5 Years too. Whose fault? Is that something to be proud of, that Canada keeps people waiting for years?


Hello Bobby,
Please guide me as to how I can immigrate to UK, bearing in mind that I'll be 48 years old next July and don't have enough money to invest (GBP 200K), and have a big family; 3 teenagers and 1 child. your guidance is much appreciated

 

[LibbyLubby]

Wow isn't it amazing how everyone has an opinion on where you live, Bobby B congrats for making some good points.

Can Sun / Canadacanada I don't think I have ever heard of the UK being called a toilet before its quite an interesting thought lol...

Having been brought up in the UK and living all over the world ( hence my nightmare at having to get 6 different police checks - joy) it quite often seems that the grass is greener but weather its Monte Carlo or Sydney, or Hong Kong, Marbella to name a few, no matter where you live you still have to clean your toilet and dust is still dust, so I think it comes down to your attitude and what your gonna make of your life wherever you live, sure the UK has its problems and yeah we're boring we all know that, and being British we do tend to speak english in a boring accent - (;D come on I have never heard anything so ridiculous in all my life,) - We speak English the way it is supposed to be spoken clearly and correctly, but who the hell cares we are generally happy and content to live in drab rainy conditions and complain but those of us that want a bit more EMIGRATE.

However, I'm just a lowly childcare manager, and if that ment cleaning toilets when I get to Canada so be it if its honest work for honest money I'd be happy to do that because it would mean I got my PR and I was on my way to making a better life for me and my family and that is what its all about.

OK feel better now good luck all and Keep the Faith...

Livx

 

[Baloo]

its honest work for honest money

that is what its all about.

That is the attitude everyone should have, it will certainly benefit Canada.

 

[farima]

you people r crazy. we r enjoying your debat.

LETS TALK ABOUT PROSPECTIVE SIDE OF CANADA. SUGGESTION FOR NEW IMMIGRANT TO START THEIR NEW AND OFCOURSE CHALLENGING LIFE.

PLEASE DONT COMPARE CANADA WITH OTHER COUNTRY. DONT CHANGE THE DISCUSSION TRACK.

 

[Right]

I am really enjoying the debate...honestly it is very provocative and at the same time educative.

Many things have been said which I have never heard before in my entire life.

Guys pls don't stop, hit more nails on the head!

Lets hear from whoever knows...We neeed the pros and cons of everybody who can contribute.

Many of us trying to migrate to Canada are really doing fine or may be averagely ok in our country of origin, Just that the modern world allows for free mobility of labour and we feel it better to exploit the other side...

Gentlemen and Ladies, Please pour out your mind, it is free of charge...


Regards,

 

[CoolEJ]

;D I find brit accent formal instead of boring. Although at time I don't easily get all the words they say.
Can't help miming the ".. bloody .." or "aye mate" expressions in some movies.
And UK history is very rich. I'm quite a fan of knights and adventures.

Canada on the other side of the Atlantic is quite a newer nation. SO it is up to us, new migrants, to create a flowerful history for the generations to come.

 

[rupeshhari]

2) Talking of History, UK was once a ROMAN COLONY - documented History - so does that mean that UK is still inferior to Rome and Italy ? Maybe as per Bobby B's arguments I guess - in that case you should bow down every time you see someone from Rome.

3) The reason most British people migrate to Canada is because they do MANUAL LABOR JOBS which Canadians dont want to do -

No job is inferior. Only preference.

No country is inferior. Some do better than others but in the history of the world, it is fluid. To think any country is inferior sets a bad precedent.

Most of you are looking to emigrate or have immigrated already. Going by some of the thinking on this thread, people are going from an 'inferior' country to a 'superior' one. If that is the case, then remember it was luck of birth/life that gave most people the opportunity to emigrate from the 'inferior' country.

CooleJ - I like the British accent too. Personally i like the way they say "Yes Governor"

Farima summarized it the best in her first sentence. ha ha.

 

[Baloo]

;D I find brit accent formal instead of boring. Although at time I don't easily get all the words they say.

That seals it, you would never understand me when I drop into Cockney slang

"Oi geezer, bung us a monkey" - - - "Excuse me sir, would you give me five hundred pounds?"

What is cockney? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockney

Rhyming slang http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk/

 

[CoolEJ]

ok that earned me a -3 ... hahaha

 

[farima]

well said rupeshhari.
why u didnt add ur country flag. i think u r too desparate about CA.

 

[commonwealth]

Of course, Malta too. Doesn't it have some history with the Knights Templar? Actually, I used to read about your country because of its interesting history with aragon, genoa, napolean, british, etc.

Yep, UK has awesome universities. The best in UK are way above the best in Canada. I agree with you on the doctors example. The fact that UK doctors not being able to work in Canada has nothing to do with standards but rather mostly with protectionism. It is hard for a MIT or Caltech graduate to get an academic job in Canada because of new accreditation rule. Does it mean these universities are worse than Canadian ones in Engineering....i think not. But Canada also does have some great universities.

I was born and raised in South Asia and currently hold US passport. I was just trying to be funny to bring country (Malta) into this conversation.
I have some most British and American education. I totally agree with you on education in UK, My younger brother is doing his Electrical Engineering from King's college London-An Awesome College.

I must say "rupeshhari", you are a smart and intellect! Most of your comments are grounded.

 

[CanSun]

BobbyB - unfortunately you started this debate and so you have to live with it. I am from Argentina and have migrated to Canada a few years back and I love Canada. Too bad to let you know - I never tried to migrate to the UK - usually people migrate from poor countries to rich countries and not the other way around. So its a crazy idea to migrate from Canada to UK - Canada being the richer country than the micro mini small UK - do you guys have long drives in the UK or is the country not big enough for long drives - maybe 4 hours at the most I guess. Also, if I want, I can migrate to UK within 4 weeks - YES 4 WEEKS thats the time it takes to get to UK under TIER 1 from Canada - and all I need to do is qualify in 2 categories - Education and Earnings to get that UK visa in 4 weeks. Unlike the UK, where salary levels are very low - it is not a big deal to earn $60,000 in Canada to get 40 points for earnings. If you want, I can email you the web links to jobs and salary levels here in Canada - I am sure you will be shocked to see the difference.

But on the other hand - you have been trying and trying and trying and trying for the last 3 years to come to Canada - still TRYING and KEEP ON TRYING - 1 day you will succeed - if not come to Canada as a Tourist and apply for Refugee status - maybe you will get PR that way - I hear British people are good at that - so many of them came over to Canada and the USA as REFUGEES after World War 2.

Rupesh - you posted that no country is inferior and no job is inferior - only preference. At the same time - you are also saying that the best UK universities are better than Canadian universities - thats funny and strange - you are comparing Canadian Universities with British Universities on 1 hand and on the other hand - you are saying all jobs and countries are equal and there should be no comparisons between them. 2 different answers to similar questions - you got to make up your mind as to which 1 makes more sense.

What I find really disturbing about you is that - you are Trashing Canada BUT at the same time you are Desperate to come to Canada with your family to lead a better life - to me that is Double standards - and now its probably turning out to be a SOUR GRAPES STORY.

 

[Baloo]

BobbyB - unfortunately you started this debate and so you have to live with it.

Maybe that you missed the first part of BobbyB's post?

Just for your Information. If it is of no interest to you, just ignore this post:

I guess you did not ignore it