anarsoul said:
Honestly I don't know a way to get a "fake" foreign experience from my country. CIC does ask payslips and reference letter on company's letterhead. It's a serious crime to counterfeit these. Sometimes they additionally ask a confirmation from revenue agency or pension fund to confirm that all taxes were paid. It's impossible to counterfeit these, since phone verification reveals it easily. They do additional checks if you work for a relative. Basically, it's close to impossible to get all these documents for a fake experience.
As an employer who has had to verify experience in the past, it's not hard to fake - particularly if you have money and friends.
Perhaps Canada should work with the professions to require testing and certification before getting PR - it would help ensure that people weren’t coming here unable to work in their profession, and would help ensure some degree of competency.
anarsoul said:
Not everyone has a friend who's business owner. Moreover executive positions do require appropriate education and usually they're already taken by more experienced people.
In most countries, a company can be started up relatively cheaply. Throw up a website and give the friend the money to pay you, and it’s pretty trivial to get the experience.
Here in Vancouver, there are a ridiculous number of new expensive cars with N (new driver) stickers. They almost always are wealthy Chinese immigrants (the same kind of people who had their applications cancelled for trying to buy their way in before):
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/rich-chinese-angry-over-cancellation-of-canadian-immigrant-program/article17269390/
They are rich enough to afford to live in Vancouver (most expensive city in North America to live in), and generally own businesses back in China. They have the wealth and connections to get a friend to hire their children in whatever position they want. Spend 18 months at Douglas, pay someone else to write your papers and take your IELTS (or do them yourself), and you’ve just bought yourself Permanent Residency.
It’s really not that hard, if you have the wealth.
dupsy21 said:
For a foreign worker to stand a good chance, you will also need a Masters degree or 2 degrees and good IELTS score. Do you think it is easy to fake that as well. If it is that easy, why don't you try to obtain fake job experience from your home country.
You don’t need a Masters. Cheating on the IELTS is easy enough:
http://en.yibada.com/articles/69099/20150930/british-council-withholds-ielts-results-chinese-test-takers.htm
http://www.scmp.com/news/china/money-wealth/article/1874818/test-credibility-how-chinese-exam-cheats-threaten-students
As for speaking English, if you come to Vancouver, you can get a job without speaking English well at all.
I have load of friends in the pool will CRS scores less than 400. If it is that easy to fake experience, why have they not improved their scores?
Because they have ethics, or aren’t willing to risk the consequences?
mead said:
There are consultants who claim to arrange LMIA for u too but dont know if anyone has got LMIA though
There are ways to game the LMIA process. It still requires the employee be fairly skilled, and that the job pay reasonably well. Faking work experience is much easier, and people will generally go for the school approach (for part-time work, and OWP after) instead of trying to fake that.
anarsoul said:
How did they evaluate this degree? WES requires either apostille (which is issued by Ministry of Education) or (for some countries) they do verification process by communicating with university.
There are schools (and governments) where a bribe can be paid to get the records changed to show a degree for a person. Alternatively, it’s easy enough to fake them, if you know what you are doing. All it takes is access to one transcript from a school to see the format and style, then it’s easy enough to change the data. They generally don’t check if the postmark is from the right area and the format is the same.
anarsoul said:
They already do. They phone employers, check linkedin and company website, they ask for reference letters and payslips, etc, etc. Bank statement with account activity for 3-6 months.
It's pretty tricky to counterfeit all these documents.
There are services that will do it for you.
http://www.fakeyourjob.com/fake-job-references (as an example)
References, 1-800 number, they help write the resume for you, and will do whatever verification is desired. It’s easy to change the LinkedIn page to match. Tax statements are not always required, and even if requested, there are services that will fake those too:
http://www.fakepaystubonline.com/w2-order-form/
They do Canada as well.
By law, IRS records are private - CIC can’t get access to them.
anarsoul said:
One has to have very good memory to keep all the answers
Moreover, it won't help much in writing and speaking...
I linked earlier to some articles about IELTS fraud. They coach cheaters on the writing and speaking, and it does work. Alternatively, they just pay someone else to take the test for you.
I know of a company that does fake IELTS testing. I've reported them, but unfortunately there is little that CIC can do about it, as they work overseas.
