INLAND APPLICATIONS 2015

[sophieee]

Hi Sophie,

Can you help me? We submitted my husband's OWP with the Spousal Application and it was received on Feb 10, 2015 but until now, we got no news of his OWP. We called CIC a lot of times and they can't really update us. It's getting frustrating and we don't know what else we can do. We are wondering if we can send another OWP application (can we do online application?), but we're unsure if it will affect the first application. And my husband is on implied status now, his tourist visa expired last June. Any advice you can give us would be great, thanks a lot!


Ralp27

You can contact your MP and/or send a Case Specific Enquiry if you haven't done it yet. Both of these are explained in the FAQ.

 

[ywqu]

You're welcome to try yourself, but you are 100% correct.

Pilot OWP's aren't considered OWP's by Health Ontario, and you only get OHIP if you're in the country temporarily to work.
(I know, isn't that the stupidest thing you've ever heard?)

Everyone who was involved in making that decision is ridiculous, but that's just how it is.

Agreed. I went to health insurance department by myself and called twice.
They wouldn't issued. I feel very frustrated. Because we have plan for new member to come.
I guess there is no way to complain.

 

[mirko86]

Hello people Im in implied status right now,my sin is expired,im windering can i do driver test to get my licence?Thanks

 

[CptDelia]

Hi sophieee,

Could you add me please

Category common-law sponsorship
Date application delivered to CIC: June 9th, 2015
Date AOR email Received: Not yet
Country of Origin: China
Canadian City of Residence: Calgary
OWP sent (w/ application?) No
Medical done (w/ application?) No
Police check done (w/ application?) Yes

I have work permit now untill 1 march 2016. When should I apply the OWP?


Thanks
Thanks

 

[sophieee]

Hi sophieee,

Could you add me please

Category common-law sponsorship
Date application delivered to CIC: June 9th, 2015
Date AOR email Received: Not yet
Country of Origin: China
Canadian City of Residence: Calgary
OWP sent (w/ application?) No
Medical done (w/ application?) No
Police check done (w/ application?) Yes

I have work permit now untill 1 march 2016. When should I apply the OWP?


Thanks
Thanks

Welcome here and thanks for sharing!
You should apply for OWP at the end of November, but definitely before the end of this year. We don't know if CIC will continue to accept OWP applications in 2016.

 

[GG_wife]

hey dee,

which office did you go to to get the OHIP?
I might try that one

 

[GG_wife]

You're welcome to try yourself, but you are 100% correct.

Pilot OWP's aren't considered OWP's by Health Ontario, and you only get OHIP if you're in the country temporarily to work.
(I know, isn't that the stupidest thing you've ever heard?)

Everyone who was involved in making that decision is ridiculous, but that's just how it is.

yes, I remember reading your stories, that's why I wonder so desperately where is that secret Narnia Service Ontario Office where they issue it regardless.
Hope dee can give an answer soon!

 

[GG_wife]

Agreed. I went to health insurance department by myself and called twice.
They wouldn't issued. I feel very frustrated. Because we have plan for new member to come.
I guess there is no way to complain.

maybe I misunderstood, but do you say you are expecting a baby? Or what does the new member mean? I am asking this b/c I would like to start a thread for pregnancy while waiting for inland spouse sponsorship and I would be interested in to hear your experience if you are pregnant on issues like health insurance etc. I will reach out to you via personal message if I did not misunderstand you

 

[insonoro]

Hello guys!

I have few questions about the OWP that is given with the pilot program regarding OHIP,
as far as I know work permit type 27 is no longer qualifying for OHIP,
when did that happen??
Type 27 used to be qualifying for OHIP

"If you are applying for Ontario health insurance coverage as an Applicant for Permanent Residence, you are required to present written confirmation from Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) that you are eligible to apply for permanent residence in Canada, which may be one of the following :

CIC Confirmation Letter – letter on CIC letterhead addressed to the Applicant for Permanent Residence that confirms that the applicant is eligible to apply for permanent residency in Canada;
CIC Immigration document such as a Work Permit, Visitor Record, Temporary Resident Permit or Study Permit with note in the “Remarks Section” that indicates that you have applied for permanent residence; or
A Work Permit case type 27, which are issued solely to individuals who have applied for permanent residence within Canada. "

Anybody who got the pilot OWP has any note in the "remaks Section"?

It makes no sense to me that we don't get any coverage while the app is in process.
Do we have to wait to get AIP to be able to qualify?
How long does it take to get AIP?

 

[GG_wife]

Hello guys!

I have few questions about the OWP that is given with the pilot program regarding OHIP,
as far as I know work permit type 27 is no longer qualifying for OHIP,
when did that happen??
Type 27 used to be qualifying for OHIP

"If you are applying for Ontario health insurance coverage as an Applicant for Permanent Residence, you are required to present written confirmation from Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) that you are eligible to apply for permanent residence in Canada, which may be one of the following :

CIC Confirmation Letter – letter on CIC letterhead addressed to the Applicant for Permanent Residence that confirms that the applicant is eligible to apply for permanent residency in Canada;
CIC Immigration document such as a Work Permit, Visitor Record, Temporary Resident Permit or Study Permit with note in the “Remarks Section” that indicates that you have applied for permanent residence; or
A Work Permit case type 27, which are issued solely to individuals who have applied for permanent residence within Canada. "

Anybody who got the pilot OWP has any note in the "remaks Section"?

It makes no sense to me that we don't get any coverage while the app is in process.
Do we have to wait to get AIP to be able to qualify?
How long does it take to get AIP?

hello insonoro,

where did you get your quote from?
I have been checking Service Ontario webpage back and forth and case type 27 was not mentioned anywhere.

However there is this list of eligibility which indicates we have to wait till AIP.

http://www.health.gov.on.ca/en/public/publications/ohip/docs/ohip_eligibility_fs_en.pdf

 

[insonoro]

Someone from settlement.org post it in 2010 .

That's why I am asking when did type 27 stop qualifying for OHIP.

 

[GG_wife]

Someone from settlement.org post it in 2010 .

That's why I am asking when did type 27 stop qualifying for OHIP.

well I am not sure if anybody knows when it stopped. The pilot program for OWP started in 2014 December and will go for 1 year. what we know so far that with this case type 27 issued through that program nobody was able to get OHIP yet. It is quite devastating news...

 

[GustavesF]

well I am not sure if anybody knows when it stopped. The pilot program for OWP started in 2014 December and will go for 1 year. what we know so far that with this case type 27 issued through that program nobody was able to get OHIP yet. It is quite devastating news...

They stopped in March 2015.

 

[GustavesF]

Hello guys!

I have few questions about the OWP that is given with the pilot program regarding OHIP,
as far as I know work permit type 27 is no longer qualifying for OHIP,
when did that happen??
Type 27 used to be qualifying for OHIP

"If you are applying for Ontario health insurance coverage as an Applicant for Permanent Residence, you are required to present written confirmation from Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) that you are eligible to apply for permanent residence in Canada, which may be one of the following :

CIC Confirmation Letter – letter on CIC letterhead addressed to the Applicant for Permanent Residence that confirms that the applicant is eligible to apply for permanent residency in Canada;
CIC Immigration document such as a Work Permit, Visitor Record, Temporary Resident Permit or Study Permit with note in the “Remarks Section” that indicates that you have applied for permanent residence; or
A Work Permit case type 27, which are issued solely to individuals who have applied for permanent residence within Canada. "

Anybody who got the pilot OWP has any note in the "remaks Section"?

It makes no sense to me that we don't get any coverage while the app is in process.
Do we have to wait to get AIP to be able to qualify?
How long does it take to get AIP?

Let's work backwards, to get AIP it takes forever. Somewhere around 17 months. Essentially forever.
Yes you have to wait for AIP to apply.
Yes, it makes no sense that you're screwed till you get AIP. It's absolutely ridiculous that refugees and temporary foreign workers get OHIP and we don't.

Everyone with the Pilot OWP has a note in their remarks section that says "Has a pending FC APR" which stands for "the applicant has a pending family class application for permanent residence".
They are idiots if they tell you that it means "pending approval", because it doesn't, it means the above. I checked with MP, MPP, and Health Ontario.

Regardless of all the requirements they post, the actual determination of eligibility is Service Canada actually getting you OHIP.

I don't know anything about what dee365 did to get OHIP, but honestly it doesn't matter what your Service Canada office allows you to do, you can even submit directly to Health Ontario if you really want (which is what I was going to do) but after long discussions with all parties involved, there is no way that your application for OHIP will actually go through. Even if you Jedi-Mind-Trick the office into submitting your application, it won't get through Health Ontario. Trust me, I would absolutely love it if we could get OHIP. I would mail you a cash reward.

And if it did go through, then I recommend that everyone out there just get the form and submit directly to Health Ontario. You don't actually need Service Canada for this.

The system is broken and barbaric. It's exploited by absolutely everyone, and spouses of these poor inland applicants are supporting them and paying a family's worth of taxes, and *not* getting any healthcare to show for it. We're waiting here in Canada, buying homes, groceries, supporting local businesses, paying every level of taxes, and we can't even get the key to any kind of reasonable medical service. How many years of taxes do I have to pay before my family gets the same privileges awarded to full-immigrant families? This discrimination is ridiculous.

If anyone can figure out how to bypass this ridiculous hurtle I'd gladly pay a bounty.

 

[GustavesF]

well I am not sure if anybody knows when it stopped. The pilot program for OWP started in 2014 December and will go for 1 year. what we know so far that with this case type 27 issued through that program nobody was able to get OHIP yet. It is quite devastating news...

It stopped because Canada doesn't want Canadians to get married.
They only want wholesale new families married elsewhere.

This is a case of Ontario Health pushing back the onus onto CIC, knowing full well that CIC is garbage and won't do anything for us.