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INLAND APPLICATIONS 2015

RDN

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Jan 21, 2015
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Category........
Visa Office......
Hong Kong
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
09-04-2015
AOR Received.
13-04-2015
File Transfer...
23-06-2015
Med's Request
22-03-2016
Med's Done....
22-06-2016
Interview........
15-03-2016
sophieee said:
As long as it's not a Canadian school you can do wathever you want.
Great. Thanks Sophie :)
 
Feb 7, 2015
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Hello,

I am an American woman, age 62, married to a Canadian citizen, male 65. We married in Montreal because as a French teacher, I wanted to be married in the French language. We have been married since 2005 and have lived together every day since then and have always lived in the US. We visit my husband's family every year during the Christmas holiday and for two weeks during the summer. My children were teens when my husband and I were married and as a result of the yearly visits to Montreal, my daughter decided to attend McGill University. When she graduated, she decided to stay in Canada and is now a permanent resident living in Toronto. My husband's family continues to live in Montreal. This includes his brother (and his family), his sister (and her family), his two sons (and their families).

My husband recently retired and we both decided that we want to move to Canada to be near our family. I am a French teacher in the US, teaching for over 15 years.

We have been exploring options on how to make the move, especially starting with CIC websites. We believe that the best option for us is to move to Canada after we wrap up our personal business in the US, apply inland for spousal sponsorship and an Open Work Permit for me as we enter Canada. If I understand correctly, though an inland application make take longer than outland, we will be able to be together and I will be able to work while waiting for all applications to be approved. Here are my questions:

1. Will I need to enter Canada with any special Visa, or can I just enter first as a visitor and then immediately start setting up our lives?
2. Can we apply for both sponsorship and an OWP at the port of entry?
3. I have a master's degree in teaching French, will I be able to get work in a reasonable period of time?
4. Will I have to have a job offer before expecting to receive an OWP?
5. Right now, my medical coverage is through my employer, how long before I and my husband can be covered in Canada?
6. During a period where we will not have medical coverage, is there a way to purchase affordable insurance?
7. Both my husband and I are healthy, but will our age be a hindrance to being accepted to live in Canada, find work, etc.?

I will be thankful for any help in the form of answers to my questions. Of course, the most important question is, have I interpreted the CIC website information correctly to be able to proceed as I have described in my first paragraph?

Thank you again.
 

sophieee

Champion Member
Jan 14, 2014
1,511
69
Vancouver
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Jan 20, 2014
AOR Received.
May 2, 2014
Med's Done....
Jan 10, 2014
Interview........
AIP: May 25, 2015
LANDED..........
Aug 11, 2015
EnseignanteFSL said:
Hello,

I am an American woman, age 62, married to a Canadian citizen, male 65. We married in Montreal because as a French teacher, I wanted to be married in the French language. We have been married since 2005 and have lived together every day since then and have always lived in the US. We visit my husband's family every year during the Christmas holiday and for two weeks during the summer. My children were teens when my husband and I were married and as a result of the yearly visits to Montreal, my daughter decided to attend McGill University. When she graduated, she decided to stay in Canada and is now a permanent resident living in Toronto. My husband's family continues to live in Montreal. This includes his brother (and his family), his sister (and her family), his two sons (and their families).

My husband recently retired and we both decided that we want to move to Canada to be near our family. I am a French teacher in the US, teaching for over 15 years.

We have been exploring options on how to make the move, especially starting with CIC websites. We believe that the best option for us is to move to Canada after we wrap up our personal business in the US, apply inland for spousal sponsorship and an Open Work Permit for me as we enter Canada. If I understand correctly, though an inland application make take longer than outland, we will be able to be together and I will be able to work while waiting for all applications to be approved. Here are my questions:

1. Will I need to enter Canada with any special Visa, or can I just enter first as a visitor and then immediately start setting up our lives?
2. Can we apply for both sponsorship and an OWP at the port of entry?
3. I have a master's degree in teaching French, will I be able to get work in a reasonable period of time?
4. Will I have to have a job offer before expecting to receive an OWP?
5. Right now, my medical coverage is through my employer, how long before I and my husband can be covered in Canada?
6. During a period where we will not have medical coverage, is there a way to purchase affordable insurance?
7. Both my husband and I are healthy, but will our age be a hindrance to being accepted to live in Canada, find work, etc.?

I will be thankful for any help in the form of answers to my questions. Of course, the most important question is, have I interpreted the CIC website information correctly to be able to proceed as I have described in my first paragraph?

Thank you again.
I don't have all the answers, but here is my suggestion:
With the inland route you should have open work permit in 4 months, but after that you can expect 20 more months while you are risking your inland app every time you go abroad (I assume you want to visit your family back in the US in two years), and in the first 17 months, before you get the AIP (first stage approval) you can have problems with health coverage. If you get the work permit through the family sponsorship and you already have CSQ (Certificat de sélection du Québec) you can have health coverage, but some applicant have a hard time to get the CSQ before AIP.
On the other hand, you can apply outland. With 10 years in marriage you have a very strong case, you don't have to be afraid for further questions or an interview. You can apply right away while you are still in the US and move to Canada while the application is in process. The application of US applicants with no red flags stay in Ottawa and get processed as quick as 3-8 months. That means that after 3-8 months you don't have to worry anymore about work permit, health coverage, travelling abroad, etc. Check out the US thread for more info:
http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/us-outland-applicants-thread-t106068.3825.html

To answer some more questions, you don't need to have any visa to come Canada, you can do it like any other time you visited your husbands family. But that's important, you can visit, but you can't come temporary before you became a permanent resident. If you cross the border with all your belongings and tell the officer that you are planning to stay permanently, he/she can think that you will stay no matter what, and decide to not let you in. I would suggest that when you move, your husband should come with all your belongings, and you should come separately and tell the officer that you are visiting your family for a temporary time. Once you are here, before your 6 months visitor status expire you can apply for visitor extension. There is no reason to deny your stay, so you most likely will get the extension and stay with your husband while your application is in process.
You don't have to have a job offer to get a work permit if you apply inland, but once you have the work permit or became PR you will be like the next candidate, so no one can really tell have hard will be to find a job.
You age won't be a hindrance, they examine only the genuineness of your relationship and your criminal record.

So in sort, apply outland as soon as you can!
 

vinotintazo

Star Member
Jul 6, 2013
100
3
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb 9, 2015
Doc's Request.
May 2, 2015 (Forms with Typos)
AOR Received.
Mar 29, 2015 OWP: April 27, 2015
Med's Done....
Nov 9, 2014 (Upfront)
Interview........
SA: April 12, 2016 AIP: April 12, 2016 DM: April 12, 2016 Interview: Waived
LANDED..........
May 3, 2016
Hi Sophie, I have applied for inland app, I'd like to get added to the spreadsheet, let me know what info you need and where to send it.

:D
 

sophieee

Champion Member
Jan 14, 2014
1,511
69
Vancouver
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Jan 20, 2014
AOR Received.
May 2, 2014
Med's Done....
Jan 10, 2014
Interview........
AIP: May 25, 2015
LANDED..........
Aug 11, 2015
vinotintazo said:
Hi Sophie, I have applied for inland app, I'd like to get added to the spreadsheet, let me know what info you need and where to send it.

:D
You can share with me here, in a personal message, or via inlandapplications2014@gmail.com

What's important is the date that your application was received according to CIC.
You can know this date from the AOR letter or from eCAS, but if you aren't at this stage yet than I can put the date your delivery was confirmed.

Date AOR email Received (if applicable)

And you share the following if you don't mind:
Country of Origin
Canadian City of Residence
OWP sent (w/ application?)
Medical done (w/ application?)
Police check done (w/ application?)

Thanks :)
 

GG_wife

Hero Member
Feb 9, 2015
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I am a bit stuck and lost in all the information on CIC...
me and my husband got married in October 2014 in Ottawa. I stayed only for a month that time in Canada. I went home and has just landed in Toronto 2days ago . I received a 2month visitor visa and the immigration officer at the port of entry said to apply for visa extension and start the spouse sponsorship asap.
Since then I am searching the net but I couldn't find answer whether I need to do the visa extension first then the spouse sponsorship after or is it the other way around? Or both at the same time? What is the chain of events?
Also if we apply for inland spouse sponsorship will that automatically change my visitor status, does it extend it? Do I need to do anything extra in order to make sure I can stay with my husband in Canada?

I would spool much appreciate if anybody could offer a word of advice on these b/c I got completely stuck
Thanks!!:)
 

sophieee

Champion Member
Jan 14, 2014
1,511
69
Vancouver
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Jan 20, 2014
AOR Received.
May 2, 2014
Med's Done....
Jan 10, 2014
Interview........
AIP: May 25, 2015
LANDED..........
Aug 11, 2015
GG_wife said:
I am a bit stuck and lost in all the information on CIC...
me and my husband got married in October 2014 in Ottawa. I stayed only for a month that time in Canada. I went home and has just landed in Toronto 2days ago . I received a 2month visitor visa and the immigration officer at the port of entry said to apply for visa extension and start the spouse sponsorship asap.
Since then I am searching the net but I couldn't find answer whether I need to do the visa extension first then the spouse sponsorship after or is it the other way around? Or both at the same time? What is the chain of events?
Also if we apply for inland spouse sponsorship will that automatically change my visitor status, does it extend it? Do I need to do anything extra in order to make sure I can stay with my husband in Canada?

I would spool much appreciate if anybody could offer a word of advice on these b/c I got completely stuck
Thanks!!:)
First of all: What's your country of origin? Depending on this you might be better off with the outland process (you can apply outland and stay in Canada with your husband).
You don't need to do anything with your visitor extension before the end of March, so first find out which process is better for your and start gathering the necessary documents.
 

GG_wife

Hero Member
Feb 9, 2015
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sophieee said:
First of all: What's your country of origin? Depending on this you might be better off with the outland process (you can apply outland and stay in Canada with your husband).
You don't need to do anything with your visitor extension before the end of March, so first find out which process is better for your and start gathering the necessary documents.
Thank you very much for the prompt reply! it's much appreciated!
It's Hungary.

To add to the story, I had already a very bad experience when I was returned from Montréal because they denied entry for me on Dec 2014. Me and my husband were coming back to Canada after our wedding reception in Hungary(we had the legal wedding in Ottawa in October and we had one for the family with the reception and everything in December) my company was going to transfer me to Canada as a skilled worker, but it got denied at the port of entry. So they put me back on the next plane. I haven't added this info to the first question because I don't know if it has any relevance.
So we were apart for so long and it is just killing us to do an outland sponsorship when I can not stay in the country if my visitor visa expires. My understanding even if the processing times are longer for inland I still can apply for open work permit and start to establish our life.
I'd rather stay with my husband in whatever status then spending time apart because of my visa expiry especially that we plan to have kids together.

Hope it makes what I was trying to say...

Thanks again for the advice in advance!
 

sophieee

Champion Member
Jan 14, 2014
1,511
69
Vancouver
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Jan 20, 2014
AOR Received.
May 2, 2014
Med's Done....
Jan 10, 2014
Interview........
AIP: May 25, 2015
LANDED..........
Aug 11, 2015
GG_wife said:
Thank you very much for the prompt reply! it's much appreciated!
It's Hungary.

To add to the story, I had already a very bad experience when I was returned from Montréal because they denied entry for me on Dec 2014. Me and my husband were coming back to Canada after our wedding reception in Hungary(we had the legal wedding in Ottawa in October and we had one for the family with the reception and everything in December) my company was going to transfer me to Canada as a skilled worker, but it got denied at the port of entry. So they put me back on the next plane. I haven't added this info to the first question because I don't know if it has any relevance.
So we were apart for so long and it is just killing us to do an outland sponsorship when I can not stay in the country if my visitor visa expires. My understanding even if the processing times are longer for inland I still can apply for open work permit and start to establish our life.
I'd rather stay with my husband in whatever status then spending time apart because of my visa expiry especially that we plan to have kids together.

Hope it makes what I was trying to say...

Thanks again for the advice in advance!
Üdv Kanadában és a fórumon ;)

You could apply for extension even with the outland process and stay in the country but since Vienna's processing time is more than a year and you have some red flags because of your previous denial I think inland is the better choice.
If you can send your PR app with an OWP before your visitor status expire than you don't need to apply for extension, you will have implied status in the meantime. Read the FAQ in my signature and ask your questions here.

Sok sikert! :)
 

GG_wife

Hero Member
Feb 9, 2015
223
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sophieee said:
Üdv Kanadában és a fórumon ;)

You could apply for extension even with the outland process and stay in the country but since Vienna's processing time is more than a year and you have some red flags because of your previous denial I think inland is the better choice.
If you can send your PR app with an OWP before your visitor status expire than you don't need to apply for extension, you will have implied status in the meantime. Read the FAQ in my signature and ask your questions here.

Sok sikert! :)
LOL és wow!köszönöm!:):):)this really made my day:D
thanks for the swift reply again!!
Yes, thanks I started to looking at the Google docs you have and it is much clearer now. The best resource I have seen on this topic to be honest. If I get stuck again I will ask
Köszi szépen mégegyszer!:)
 

vinotintazo

Star Member
Jul 6, 2013
100
3
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb 9, 2015
Doc's Request.
May 2, 2015 (Forms with Typos)
AOR Received.
Mar 29, 2015 OWP: April 27, 2015
Med's Done....
Nov 9, 2014 (Upfront)
Interview........
SA: April 12, 2016 AIP: April 12, 2016 DM: April 12, 2016 Interview: Waived
LANDED..........
May 3, 2016
Alright then, Acording to Canpost, they should receive app Feb 11th.

sophieee said:
And you share the following if you don't mind:

Thanks :)
Country of Origin: Venezuela
Canadian City of Residence: Edmonton
OWP sent (w/ application?): Yes
Medical done (w/ application?): Yes
Police check done (w/ application?), Yes
 

sophieee

Champion Member
Jan 14, 2014
1,511
69
Vancouver
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Jan 20, 2014
AOR Received.
May 2, 2014
Med's Done....
Jan 10, 2014
Interview........
AIP: May 25, 2015
LANDED..........
Aug 11, 2015
vinotintazo said:
Alright then, Acording to Canpost, they should receive app Feb 11th.

Country of Origin: Venezuela
Canadian City of Residence: Edmonton
OWP sent (w/ application?): Yes
Medical done (w/ application?): Yes
Police check done (w/ application?), Yes
Thanks, I've added you!:)
 

vinotintazo

Star Member
Jul 6, 2013
100
3
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb 9, 2015
Doc's Request.
May 2, 2015 (Forms with Typos)
AOR Received.
Mar 29, 2015 OWP: April 27, 2015
Med's Done....
Nov 9, 2014 (Upfront)
Interview........
SA: April 12, 2016 AIP: April 12, 2016 DM: April 12, 2016 Interview: Waived
LANDED..........
May 3, 2016
sophieee said:
Thanks, I've added you!:)
thanks! :D , let the waiting begin...
 

vinotintazo

Star Member
Jul 6, 2013
100
3
Category........
Visa Office......
CPC Mississauga
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Feb 9, 2015
Doc's Request.
May 2, 2015 (Forms with Typos)
AOR Received.
Mar 29, 2015 OWP: April 27, 2015
Med's Done....
Nov 9, 2014 (Upfront)
Interview........
SA: April 12, 2016 AIP: April 12, 2016 DM: April 12, 2016 Interview: Waived
LANDED..........
May 3, 2016
sophieee said:
Thanks, I've added you!:)
hey can you please update Received date to FEB 10th, they got the app today according to CAN post.

thanks!