INLAND APPLICATIONS 2014

[kafka khaos]

Are you on implied status just by submitting a PR application? I thought you weren't... if that's true, I have no more worries in my life.

No. If you already have a working visa, and you apply and include an OWP in your PR application then it is generally assumed you have implied status. But i dont think thats the case if you have a visitor visa and you apply and let your visitor visa lapse.

 

[civic]

i don't know if giving the applicants work permit just after AOR is a good idea. without verifying if the relationship is real and providing work permit can lead to many frauds. applicants already have implied which is good enough. what they should be doing is processing the cases faster and rather than returning documents, they ask for needed documents.

Implied status for inland sponsored spouses seems to be an invention by CIC call center staff so people wont bother them with status inquiries. So far there is no official source from CIC to validate the information about the implied status. Thats why people are worried because they receive conflicting information from CIC. If you go to USCIS website for American immigration, you will see CIC website is a big joke

 

[chakrab]

Implied status for inland sponsored spouses seems to be an invention by CIC call center staff so people wont bother them with status inquiries. So far there is no official source from CIC to validate the information about the implied status. Thats why people are worried because they receive conflicting information from CIC. If you go to USCIS website for American immigration, you will see CIC website is a big joke

actually implied status is a valid term recognized by CIC. anyone saying otherwise has little information.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=188&t=17

 

[lellen]

actually implied status is a valid term recognized by CIC. anyone saying otherwise has little information.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/helpcentre/answer.asp?q=188&t=17

I think they were referring to the implied status for PR application, not for another work permit.

 

[chakrab]

I think they were referring to the implied status for PR application, not for another work permit.

PR application has nothing to do with implied status. one can only apply for inland application if they have a current status in canada, and implied status maintains that status. PR application is separate to maintaining the current status. so if someone doesn't send an application for extending the study, work or visitor permit, then the PR application will be refused.

 

[lellen]

PR application has nothing to do with implied status. one can only apply for inland application if they have a current status in canada, and implied status maintains that status. PR application is separate to maintaining the current status. so if someone doesn't send an application for extending the study, work or visitor permit, then the PR application will be refused.

huh? Something tells me you're wrong because everything you're saying is completely new to me.

 

[lellen]

Plus... people in Canada are allowed to submit an inland PR Sponsorship application EVEN if they're out of status. I know this for a fact, and I don't know a lot.

 

[chakrab]

Plus... people in Canada are allowed to submit an inland PR Sponsorship application EVEN if they're out of status. I know this for a fact, and I don't know a lot.

no one can apply without being out of status at the time of application. that's against the rule of PR application. at least they must have a visitor status in canada.

 

[Ponga]

PR application has nothing to do with implied status. one can only apply for inland application if they have a current status in canada, and implied status maintains that status. PR application is separate to maintaining the current status. so if someone doesn't send an application for extending the study, work or visitor permit, then the PR application will be refused.

You are mistaken.

While it is true that submitting an Inland application does not give the applicant implied status, their application will not be refused if they do not have legal status, as long as they have no other inadmissibility issues.

 

[civic]

PR application has nothing to do with implied status. one can only apply for inland application if they have a current status in canada, and implied status maintains that status. PR application is separate to maintaining the current status. so if someone doesn't send an application for extending the study, work or visitor permit, then the PR application will be refused.

I think implied status is meant to ensure the temporary status is not interrupted after renewal is sent and before decision is rendered. For example, students can continue going to school after study permit extension request is lodged, foreign workers can continue working (for the same employer) after work permit extension request is lodged. This is somewhat different, to define implied status, for applicants as students, workers or visitors, to apply for OWP along with their inland spousal sponsorship. CIC does not have a guideline on implied status for these people. Everything was hearsay and mostly info around this issue are circulated by not very well trained call center staff.

 

[chakrab]

You are mistaken.

While it is true that submitting an Inland application does not give the applicant implied status, their application will not be refused if they do not have legal status, as long as they have no other inadmissibility issues.

are you saying someone can apply for PR inland while not having legal status in canada? at the time of application?

 

[kafka khaos]

PR application has nothing to do with implied status. one can only apply for inland application if they have a current status in canada, and implied status maintains that status. PR application is separate to maintaining the current status. so if someone doesn't send an application for extending the study, work or visitor permit, then the PR application will be refused.

completely wrong. CIC will process the PR application regardless of status.



Maintaining legal status
Spouses and common‑law partners of Canadian citizens and permanent residents in Canada who wish to apply for permanent resident status are no longer required to have legal immigration status provided that they have an eligible sponsor. All other eligibility requirements continue to apply.

Important information. Applicants who wish to be able to continue to work and study in Canada must submit an application for extension before the work or study permit expires.


http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/applications/guides/5289ETOC.asp

 

[Ponga]

are you saying someone can apply for PR inland while not having legal status in canada? at the time of application?

That's exactly what I'm saying.

 

[Carlaganda23]

no one can apply without being out of status at the time of application. that's against the rule of PR application. at least they must have a visitor status in canada.

Hi Chakrab,

You are wrong. I heard many stories here in the forum that were out of status for many years and had their Permanent Residency approved within a year.

Unless there are no other admissibility issues like criminal record and has an eligible Sponsor...

 

[chakrab]

well i guess one learn new things every day

and wow, someone gave me a negative point for this conversation. that's amazing that one can't express their opinion and accept the mistake.