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In or outland application, that is the question

canuck78

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Yeah, for sure, @canuck78

Part A

You must be able to answer "yes" to each of these statements:

  • Your principal home is in Ontario.
  • You were not away from Ontario for more than 30 days during the first 6 months that you lived here. That means you must be in Ontario for 153 days of the first 183 days that you live in Ontario.
  • You are in Ontario for at least 153 days in any 12-month period.

and

  • You are a Canadian citizen or permanent resident (including recently adopted children).
would be enough for many of the spouses being sponsored in Ontario.
Not sure what you are commenting on. Since when is Ontario a prairie province?
 

armoured

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You are a Canadian citizen or permanent resident (including recently adopted children).
would be enough for many of the spouses being sponsored in Ontario.
I'm not sure what your question is. Your spouse will be eligible for OHIP as soon as she becomes a permanent resident.

(Note that normally OHIP has a three month waiting period, waived as a covid measure, no-one knows when it will be reintroduced.)
 
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canadian416

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I'm not sure what your question is. Your spouse will be eligible for OHIP as soon as she becomes a permanent resident.

(Note that normally OHIP has a three month waiting period, waived as a covid measure, no-one knows when it will be reintroduced.)
As soon as she becomes PR and meet all the items listed in Part A; you would be eligible for OHIP.

Good to know that 3 month waiting period is no longer required due to Covid.
 

armoured

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As soon as she becomes PR and meet all the items listed in Part A; you would be eligible for OHIP.
I'm not sure you understand how all that works - the criteria in section A basicallhy mean you're covered once you move to Ontario, as long as you've moved there and will be there for x days in the next six months, and thereafter for whatever number of days per year.

So for example: if she's in Ontario the day she becomes a PR - or lands and becomes a PR - she can basically go the next day to get OHIP coverage. As long as she doesn't leave for more than 30 days in the next x days. (And that would amount to them clawing it back, but let's not get bogged down in details)
 
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Ibex 232

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Outland is your best (and only logical) option, since you plan to leave Canada for more than 2 weeks during the process.

Also worth noting that in some provinces, such as BC, a person is eligible for health care as soon as they have been `Approved in Principle', without needing a WP. It appears that Ontario may also have such requirements:
https://settlement.org/ontario/health/ohip-and-health-insurance/ontario-health-insurance-plan-ohip/who-is-eligible-for-ohip/



Part A

You must be able to answer "yes" to each of these statements:


  • Your principal home is in Ontario.
  • You were not away from Ontario for more than 30 days during the first 6 months that you lived here. That means you must be in Ontario for 153 days of the first 183 days that you live in Ontario.
  • You are in Ontario for at least 153 days in any 12-month period.
Part B

You must be able to answer "yes" to at least 1 of these statements:

Canadian Citizens and Permanent Residents

  • You are a Canadian citizen or permanent resident (including recently adopted children).
  • You are a "protected person," also called a convention refugee.
  • You are registered as an Indian under the Indian Act. (This is for aboriginal people of Canada.)
  • You applied for permanent residence and Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) confirmed that you meet the eligibility requirements to apply for permanent residence in Canada. This means that you have "approval-in-principle."




An Inland applicant technically does not need to maintain their status, but this is generally not advisable. This is because of a Public Policy that does not disqualify an Inland applicant solely because of not having legal status in Canada; Outland applicants do not benefit from that same policy.
Hey Ponga. Does IRCC provide AIP for outland applications as well? I saw some threads mentioning that AIP is only for Inland applications. and if AIP is not provided for Outland applications, is there an alternate (for Outland applications) that IRCC provides, which make the applicant eligible for OHIP?
 

scylla

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Hey Ponga. Does IRCC provide AIP for outland applications as well? I saw some threads mentioning that AIP is only for Inland applications. and if AIP is not provided for Outland applications, is there an alternate (for Outland applications) that IRCC provides, which make the applicant eligible for OHIP?
AIP is only granted with inland applications and there's no equivalent for outland. However if an outland applicant is in Canada and gets AOR, applies for and obtains and open work permit, and then secures a job at least six months in length, they can apply for OHIP.
 
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Ibex 232

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AIP is only granted with inland applications and there's no equivalent for outland. However if an outland applicant is in Canada and gets AOR, applies for and obtains and open work permit, and then secures a job at least six months in length, they can apply for OHIP.
Thanks for your response Scylla. Yes, I am aware of "getting OHIP through work permit" path. However, just wanted to see if an outland sponsorship applicant, after coming to Canada on visit and after completing 153 days residency in ON, would still be able to get OHIP directly without any job? or is this facility only for Inland applicants?
 

scylla

VIP Member
Jun 8, 2010
96,312
22,448
Toronto
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
28-05-2010
AOR Received.
19-08-2010
File Transfer...
28-06-2010
Passport Req..
01-10-2010
VISA ISSUED...
05-10-2010
LANDED..........
05-10-2010
Thanks for your response Scylla. Yes, I am aware of "getting OHIP through work permit" path. However, just wanted to see if an outland sponsorship applicant, after coming to Canada on visit and after completing 153 days residency in ON, would still be able to get OHIP directly without any job? or is this facility only for Inland applicants?
Got it. I'm not sure about that. Previously it has not been possible since there is no AIP.