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CANADIAN EQUIVALENCY SUMMARY
Bachelor's degree (four years)


CREDENTIAL ANALYSIS
1. Credential Authentication: Official transcripts were sent directly by the institution
Country: India
Credential: Bachelor of Business Administration
Year: 2009
Awarded by: Punjab Technical University
Institution Status: Recognized
Major/Specialization: Business Administration
Canadian Equivalency: Bachelor's degree (three years)


2. Credential Authentication: Official transcripts were sent directly by the institution
Country: India
Credential: Postgraduate Diploma (AICTE)
Year: 2013
Awarded by: PCTE Group of Institutes
Institution Status: Recognized
Major/Specialization: Management
Canadian Equivalency: Bachelor's degree (four years)

I need to know what should i opt for in the level of education.
Please dont share the eca conversion link with me i've seen it.
But my consultant suggests i have to put it as Bachelors only.
And can't claim points for 2 or more degrees.
I feel my years of hardwork in to education is reduced to nothing.

Please help - and can be honest. I just want to know the correct converison !
 

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Bachelor's degree make sense.
Since as per CIC ECA conversion page, Bachelor's degree is not part of "Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees. One must be for a program of three or more years".
 

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Imo your consultant is wrong and you can get points for 2 or more degrees. You have a post graduate diploma which has been evaluated as Bachelors and a BBA which is another Bachelors.
 

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cyronn said:
Imo your consultant is wrong and you can get points for 2 or more degrees. You have a post graduate diploma which has been evaluated as Bachelors and a BBA which is another Bachelors.
Please check this:
Two or more certificates, diplomas, or degrees.
Important notice: One must be for a program of three or more years.
ECA assessment results:

A three-year or more certificate, diploma, or degree

PLUS any of the results in the sections below (not including secondary/high school), or:

Post-Bachelor's Certificate
Post-undergraduate certificate
Post-Bachelor's Diploma
Post-undergraduate diploma
Graduate Certificate
Graduate Certificate with a focus in [area of concentration]
Postgraduate certificate
Postgraduate Diploma
Graduate Diploma with a focus in [area of concentration]
Graduate diploma
two-year Postgraduate Diploma, specializing in [name of discipline]
two-year Bachelor’s after degree with a focus in [area of concentration]
one-year Postgraduate Certificate in [name of discipline]
one-year of graduate study with a focus in [area of concentration]
Study Toward a Master's Degree

But my PG Diploma "result" is made equal to Bachelors 4 Years !!
:/ :(
 

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Looks like your second degree is an MBA, but WES is evaluating it to Bachelors whereas some of the other PGDMs (for eg from IIMs) are evaluated as Masters. Why this is anybody's guess. In any case your overall education should still fetch you points for 2 or more degrees.
 

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cyronn said:
Looks like your second degree is an MBA, but WES is evaluating it to Bachelors whereas some of the other PGDMs (for eg from IIMs) are evaluated as Masters. Why this is anybody's guess. In any case your overall education should still fetch you points for 2 or more degrees.
I did recieve masters evaluation from WES.
But then, I recieved another mail from them saying that
apparently they assessed me as masters by mistake.
and gave me bachelors 4 years .. for my masters.

I am highly dissapointed. feel my PG is of no use.
All the years of hardwork i put into my education !
 

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cyronn said:
Looks like your second degree is an MBA, but WES is evaluating it to Bachelors whereas some of the other PGDMs (for eg from IIMs) are evaluated as Masters. Why this is anybody's guess. In any case your overall education should still fetch you points for 2 or more degrees.
Incorrect.

The OP's postgraduate diploma hasn't been assessed independently as equivalent to a 4 year Bachelors degree. It has been combined with their Bachelors and both of those have been collectively assessed as equivalent to a single 4 year Canadian Bachelors.
 

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Asivad Anac said:
Incorrect.

The OP's postgraduate diploma hasn't been assessed independently as equivalent to a 4 year Bachelors degree. It has been combined with their Bachelors and both of those have been collectively assessed as equivalent to a single 4 year Canadian Bachelors.
So tell me asivad what option fits my case? ?
 

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Asivad Anac said:
Incorrect.

The OP's postgraduate diploma hasn't been assessed independently as equivalent to a 4 year Bachelors degree. It has been combined with their Bachelors and both of those have been collectively assessed as equivalent to a single 4 year Canadian Bachelors.
Oh? That's odd. The WES assessment seemed to suggest 2 separate bachelors with the OP's postgraduate diploma getting a bachelor's evaluation instead of masters. snorden88, could you post the contents of the WES mail correcting the masters to bachelors? Any idea why WES changed their assessment?
 

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People have answered this for you many times. Whatever is written in the Canadian equivalency summary is what you enter into your profile. In your case, bachelor's degree, 4 years.
 

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cyronn said:
Oh? That's odd. The WES assessment seemed to suggest 2 separate bachelors with the OP's postgraduate diploma getting a bachelor's evaluation instead of masters. snorden88, could you post the contents of the WES mail correcting the masters to bachelors? Any idea why WES changed their assessment?
Well they sent an image attachment of message:

Dear Ms Norden,

We recently sent you an ECA assessment. We regret to inform you that the report contained a mistake. The issue has been resolved and the mail has been sent to you and delivered electronically to CIC..

we regret for any inconvenience....bla bla
 

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snorden88 said:
Well they sent an image attachment of message:

Dear Ms Norden,

We recently sent you an ECA assessment. We regret to inform you that the report contained a mistake. The issue has been resolved and the mail has been sent to you and delivered electronically to CIC..

we regret for any inconvenience....bla bla
I recommend you get in touch with WES to clarify, specifically if they are evaluating both your degrees to one degree or two. I still find it difficult to believe both your degrees are being combined and evaluated as one Bachelors degree esp, since one is a technical degree and other one is management. All the best.
 

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cyronn said:
I recommend you get in touch with WES to clarify, specifically if they are evaluating both your degrees to one degree or two. I still find it difficult to believe both your degrees are being combined and evaluated as one Bachelors degree esp, since one is a technical degree and other one is management. All the best.
Actually both their degrees are in management/business.
 

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Asivad Anac said:
Actually both their degrees are in management/business.
My bad. BBA and PGDM. snorden88, still recommend you contact WES for clarification, since they've changed their evaluation.

Asivad, question for you - Does WES evaluation in the case of 2 degrees specifically say 2 Canadian degrees in the summary? In which case whatever WES summary says will be what we put in CIC forms?
 

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cyronn said:
My bad. BBA and PGDM. snorden88, still recommend you contact WES for clarification, since they've changed their evaluation.

Asivad, question for you - Does WES evaluation in the case of 2 degrees specifically say 2 Canadian degrees in the summary? In which case whatever WES summary says will be what we put in CIC forms?
Thank you Asivad and Cyronn.
I sent a query to WES day before yesterday. So i guess now i'll receive a reply on Monday, probably !

Also, now that I recieved a OINP PT, at 441 I am considering going ahead with it rather than waiting for scores to come down.
But, I am also very optimistic that it might happen in the coming draws !