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Immigration Applications are not Processed in the Order that they are Received
Posted on February 3, 2014 by Steven Meurrens •

[Editor's Note: The following appeared in the September 2012 version of The Canadian Immigrant. In drafting a blog post about a similar topic I realized that I had never posted the article below to my blog. I am therefore posting this today. The title in The Canadian Immigrant article was "What Applicants Should Look for In New Immigration Rules."]

People who follow Canada’s immigration system have undoubtedly had trouble keeping up with the rapid changes that Citizenship and Immigration Canada has introduced in the past several months. From the termination of 300,000 federal skilled worker applications to the proposed “Start-up Visa,” the announcements have been fast and furious, and each one has been debated extensively.

In discussing each individual change, however, the public discourse has largely missed the shift in the forest by focusing on each tree. There is a fundamental transformation underway in Canada’s immigration system, and it is important that anyone submitting a visa application understand this before applying.

First in, first processed

Traditionally, Canada’s immigration system operated on a first-come first-processed basis. Our immigration legislation created programs under which eligible applicants could apply. People submitted applications under various programs with the understanding that while they would have to wait in the queue behind those who applied before them, they could be certain that the Canadian government would process their applications before anyone who applied after them. Importantly, they could also be certain that their application would actually be processed according to the criteria that existed when they applied.

Enter the ministerial instructions

In 2008, however, the Government of Canada began abandoning the first-come first-processed system by introducing what are now commonly referred to as ministerial instructions. Ministerial instructions are directives by the minister of Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC). They allow CIC to accelerate the processing of some applications, set quotas on how many applications in a program will actually be processed, and introduce additional program requirements not found in Canada’s immigration legislation.

It was through ministerial instructions that CIC reduced, capped, and in 2012 suspended the acceptance of most new applications in the skilled worker program. While the Government of Canada recently published legislation saying that the skilled worker program will reopen on Jan. 1, 2013, and published a new points system, no one knows what additional requirements and restrictions the minister will impose on the skilled worker program through ministerial instructions. Ministerial instructions also enabled CIC to prioritize processing of applications such that people who applied to the skilled worker program after 2010 can expect their applications to be processed faster than those who applied before. It was also through ministerial instructions that CIC capped the number of investor applications, suspended the entrepreneur program, and put a two-year moratorium on parent and grandparent applications. The minister was able to introduce all of these significant changes without having to consult Parliament, without having to amend Canada’s immigration legislation and without having to provide any notice of the changes.

The 2012 Budget Implementation Act introduced further changes to Canada’s immigration system that expand the scope of ministerial instructions. Ministerial instructions will soon allow the minister to unilaterally establish new immigration programs and to govern how they are processed. Importantly, changes to such programs can be made retroactively. As well, the 2012 Budget Implementation Act specifically provides that ministerial instructions can set the number of applications that will be processed in a given immigration program at zero.

Terminating the skilled worker backlog

Perhaps the biggest indicator of how far Canada has moved away from a first-come, first-processed immigration system was the government’s decision to terminate all skilled worker applications that were submitted prior to Feb. 27, 2008. Approximately 300,000 applications are being returned to people who applied to immigrate and patiently waited in the queue.

As of writing, there are several lawsuits underway that will determine whether the 300,000 skilled worker applications are ultimately terminated. However, it is important for the potential visa applicant to understand that their application can be terminated after it is submitted or that CIC will simply not process it.

Applicants beware

The Canadian government appears to want the ability to choose which visa applicants it will admit after the applicants have already applied to immigrate to programs under which they are eligible. It wants the ability to process applications in response to the immediate and ever-changing needs of Canadian society. It is simply not interested in processing applications under programs that it does not feel will address these needs.

Applicants accordingly need to beware that, contrary to their reasonable expectation, applying for a visa under a program in which they are eligible to immigrate does not mean that they will be admitted. Their eligible application could be pushed back in processing priority, subject to a cap of zero or, worst of all, terminated.
 

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Thanks for posting this, but...it appears to have more relevance with applicants that are NOT applying under the Family Class Sponsorship...which is where you posted this.

It looks like, based on the article, that prior to 2008 ALL applications for PR were put in a pile, in order received, and then routed to their proper `department', but that seems to have changed in 2008.

Family Class Sponsorship applications are supposed to be given priority, but I suppose it's still a mystery as to how the system really works.
 

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After seeing the delays and not even sure when our family class sponsorship will be completed as I am sponsoring my wife. To me it seems like they are working on everyone's case just like this.... :mad: :mad:


Ponga said:
Thanks for posting this, but...it appears to have more relevance with applicants that are NOT applying under the Family Class Sponsorship...which is where you posted this.

Family Class Sponsorship applications are supposed to be given priority, but I suppose it's still a mystery as to how the system really works.
 

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@ Ponga

After seeing the delays and not even sure when our family class sponsorship will be completed as I am sponsoring my wife. To me it seems like they are working on everyone's case just like this.... :mad: :mad:
Well, I can't speak for the New Delhi applicants, but the majority of those that I've seen on the 2013 Inland spreadsheet, seem to be in-line with the processing times shown on CIC's website.

*shrug* The waiting really is the hardest part.
 

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Nothing new, we saw what happened during PGP apps and it will continue
 

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It's old news that spousal, parents, skilled workers, refugees, etc apps are all processed completely differently. No surprise there.

All family-spousal class apps are processed in the order they are received, so in that sense I don't think this article is very relevant to family class.
 

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Rob_TO said:
It's old news that spousal, parents, skilled workers, refugees, etc apps are all processed completely differently. No surprise there.

All family-spousal class apps are processed in the order they are received, so in that sense I don't think this article is very relevant to family class.
I disagree. My wife is still waiting for her COPR. There are people on this forum who applied and received their COPRs in 2013. We applied in 2012.
 

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I disagree. My wife is still waiting for her COPR. There are people on this forum who applied and received their COPRs in 2013. We applied in 2012.
Fair enough, but this delay may not be due to her application being `bumped aside' for another applicant.

Have you ordered her GCMS notes, to see if they give you and ideas why it's taking so long?

When was your/her last correspondence from CIC?
 

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Ponga said:
Fair enough, but this delay may not be due to her application being `bumped aside' for another applicant.

Have you ordered her GCMS notes, to see if they give you and ideas why it's taking so long?
Yes exactly. Your application was most likely started before those other people, but for one reason or another is being delayed, or had issues that the other apps didn't.
 

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Rob_TO said:
Yes exactly. Your application was most likely started before those other people, but for one reason or another is being delayed, or had issues that the other apps didn't.
Yes, I ordered them. I should be getting them soon (around Feb. 11). My wife's application started to be processed in November 2013, according to ECAS. Why was her application sitting for almost a year? Another tidbit that came to my attention occurred about three weeks ago. I went to Vermilion, a small town two hours east of Edmonton, to help move my grandmother into a lodge. I met the assistant manger of the lodge while there. She asked my wife where she was from. The assistant manager told us that she used to work for CIC in Vegreville, processing PRs. Her partner is from somewhere in Europe. She told us that she had her partner's PR fast tracked because she "had an in" at CIC (even though she wasn't working with CIC at that time).

CEM has not responded, nor acknowledged, any request I have sent. I have contacted my MP's office. They were told that my wife's PR is in queue for a finalization review. How long is this "review" going to take? A month? Two? Six? This whole process is a joke.
 

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I completely agree with you.. This CIC processing system in India is also a joke. I sponsored my wife in November 2012 and Surprise.....Surprise.. It's Feb 2014 I am still waiting.. It's genuine case and still they making us wait this long.
I tell you a funny story. My wife lived in UK for 2 years which NDVO requested for the "UK Police Clearance Certificate". We shipped and they received the PCC on April 2013. No one from Canadian Embassy called or informed all these months which passed that they never received my wife PCC which we submitted and according to the courier company it shows that it was delivered and handed over to with the person's name.

It's a complete error from there side which they are not accepting it now. So, now I had to provide them details with my wife name/courier number so that they can trace it. I haven't heard anything from them as of yet. I have mailed them 5-6 times and no response. I have called them multiple times and no one gives proper answer.

I feel like censor *words at Canadian immigration system... :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

JRPW said:
Yes, I ordered them. I should be getting them soon (around Feb. 11). My wife's application started to be processed in November 2013, according to ECAS. Why was her application sitting for almost a year? Another tidbit that came to my attention occurred about three weeks ago. I went to Vermilion, a small town two hours east of Edmonton, to help move my grandmother into a lodge. I met the assistant manger of the lodge while there. She asked my wife where she was from. The assistant manager told us that she used to work for CIC in Vegreville, processing PRs. Her partner is from somewhere in Europe. She told us that she had her partner's PR fast tracked because she "had an in" at CIC (even though she wasn't working with CIC at that time).

CEM has not responded, nor acknowledged, any request I have sent. I have contacted my MP's office. They were told that my wife's PR is in queue for a finalization review. How long is this "review" going to take? A month? Two? Six? This whole process is a joke.
 

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No one knows in which way they process the applications. I know lots of people here who sponsored their family members in 2012 and still waiting. But, year 2013 friends here who sponsored their family members already getting visa's. All, I know that Canadian Immigration System sucks!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Admit it fellows!!!! :mad: :mad:

Rob_TO said:
It's old news that spousal, parents, skilled workers, refugees, etc apps are all processed completely differently. No surprise there.

All family-spousal class apps are processed in the order they are received, so in that sense I don't think this article is very relevant to family class.
 

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Rob_TO said:
It's old news that spousal, parents, skilled workers, refugees, etc apps are all processed completely differently. No surprise there.

All family-spousal class apps are processed in the order they are received, so in that sense I don't think this article is very relevant to family class.
I also disagree. FAMILY ClASS APPS ARE NOT PROCESSED IN ORDER.... For example... Outland- kingston jamaica.. I seen people waiting from 2012 and its now 2014 and no delay or anything.. So I dnt think they are. Process in no order.!
 

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lovindahubby said:
I also disagree. FAMILY ClASS APPS ARE NOT PROCESSED IN ORDER.... For example... Outland- kingston jamaica.. I seen people waiting from 2012 and its now 2014 and no delay or anything.. So I dnt think they are. Process in no order.!
I should have said they start processing in the order that they are received.
But then what happens during processing or why some apps get delayed for years while one that started processing after but are done in a few months... is anyone's guess.
 
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I believe the spouse sponsorship applications are processed in order, its just that some people have lots of red flags which causes delays.