+1(514) 937-9445 or Toll-free (Canada & US) +1 (888) 947-9445

im tired of Ontario!

emamabd

Champion Member
Jun 22, 2012
1,815
428
Ketevan said:
Do you think an MBA would help? Most private sector employers that I checked are looking for college diploma holders with 5-10 years of experience. I already spent fortune on doing MSc and PhD and at the end got no job.
If I ever go to school again, it will be vocational school that provides work placement.
i think any education in canada would/should help...as those employers will consider it sort of "canadian experience",...at least the guys i know here in ontario - the majority got decent jobs only after doing further studies here. Another friend didn't consider studying here and got a decent job 1 year after landing....so things can work either way, just we (new comers) should be patient and we should have a plan..otherwise we'll be lost here
 

Ketevan

Hero Member
Mar 26, 2012
803
34
UK
Category........
Visa Office......
London (Federal), Paris (BIQ)
NOC Code......
4162
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-03-2011 (Quebec); 29-02-2012 (Federal), signed by KRSZWDA
Nomination.....
Interview letter received from BIQ (Paris) November 2011
AOR Received.
15-08-2011 (Quebec); 23-03-2012 (Federal, e-mail)
File Transfer...
19-04-2012 (London started processing)
Med's Request
12-06-2012 (delivered on 19-06-2012 by post)
Med's Done....
04-07-2012 (received by London on 09-07-2012, signed by IAN); appeared on ECAS on 31-07-2012
Interview........
06-02-2012 (got CSQ at Paris BIQ)
Passport Req..
30-07-12, but cancelled on 08-08-12 (additional background checks needed :o ) New passport req. - 05/11/12
VISA ISSUED...
20-11-12 (Passport submitted in person 15/11/12; Decision made and canadian address on ECAS 23/11/12; passport picked up in person 29/11/12).
LANDED..........
09-03-13, Montreal YUL
May I ask what sort of studies they did - certificate, diploma, degree ?


emamabd said:
i think any education in canada would/should help...as those employers will consider it sort of "canadian experience",...at least the guys i know here in ontario - the majority got decent jobs only after doing further studies here. Another friend didn't consider studying here and got a decent job 1 year after landing....so things can work either way, just we (new comers) should be patient and we should have a plan..otherwise we'll be lost here
 

emamabd

Champion Member
Jun 22, 2012
1,815
428
Ketevan said:
May I ask what sort of studies they did - certificate, diploma, degree ?
2 did MBA's and both got jobs at their universities after graduation , one did MSc in Engineering Management & got a good job at a telecom company immediately after graduating, another one a PHD in telecom and working as a consultant earning 80k+ ...they have done survival jobs at the beginning and during their studies, but at the end they managed to settle and succeed here
 

ghatot201

Hero Member
Feb 8, 2013
357
14
Windsor, UK
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
NOC Code......
2171
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21-02-2013
Doc's Request.
Sent with application
AOR Received.
PER 08-03-2013
IELTS Request
8.0 Sent with application
File Transfer...
11-12-2014
Med's Request
06-01-2014
Med's Done....
09-01-2014
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
12-02-2014
VISA ISSUED...
17-02-2014
LANDED..........
Canada since 2011, Landed
This forum is not for fighting amongst yourself. I agree with enambd in that education is always useful. I work in Ontario with a six figure salary. I work as an IT consultant (SAP). Ontario is pretty good if you have the experience and international certifications. Some of the certifications in demand are SAP, CCNA, PMP, CPMA, etc.

My entry to Canada was on a study permit. I graduated on aug 19, 2011 and was working by aug 22. I had my experience to fall back on. I have worked for SAP labs in waldhorf, london, HK and India. I started off with 85k. Employers do value Canadian education. I would say the recipe would be international certifications with canadian education. That should work in Canada.

BTW while I was graduating I was working as a dish washer in an Italiant restaurant in Toronto. I also used to mow lawns for property stars in summer. 'Survival jobs' are plenty and easy to come by.
 

emamabd

Champion Member
Jun 22, 2012
1,815
428
ghatot201 said:
This forum is not for fighting amongst yourself. I agree with enambd in that education is always useful. I work in Ontario with a six figure salary. I work as an IT consultant (SAP). Ontario is pretty good if you have the experience and international certifications. Some of the certifications in demand are SAP, CCNA, PMP, CPMA, etc.

My entry to Canada was on a study permit. I graduated on aug 19, 2011 and was working by aug 22. I had my experience to fall back on. I have worked for SAP labs in waldhorf, london, HK and India. I started off with 85k. Employers do value Canadian education. I would say the recipe would be international certifications with canadian education. That should work in Canada.

BTW while I was graduating I was working as a dish washer in an Italiant restaurant in Toronto. I also used to mow lawns for property stars in summer. 'Survival jobs' are plenty and easy to come by.
+1
Thanks ghatot for sharing your experience & success story, indeed thats the purpose of this forum - people sharing their experiences for the benefit of all.

I'm working on that recipe, I already have ITIL certifiations (Foundation & intermediate level), i booked the PMP exam next month and now preparing for it - while at the same time applying for any suitable job which comes by - also trying to build contacts here. If i didn't get a decent job in the coming 12 months - i will consider going for an MBA with co-op placement
 

ghatot201

Hero Member
Feb 8, 2013
357
14
Windsor, UK
Category........
Visa Office......
CPP-Ottawa
NOC Code......
2171
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
21-02-2013
Doc's Request.
Sent with application
AOR Received.
PER 08-03-2013
IELTS Request
8.0 Sent with application
File Transfer...
11-12-2014
Med's Request
06-01-2014
Med's Done....
09-01-2014
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
12-02-2014
VISA ISSUED...
17-02-2014
LANDED..........
Canada since 2011, Landed
All the best enamabd. Hope you succeed. I have the CPMA but not the PMP. I am waiting for company sponsorship.

Networking helps a lot. I would suggest that you go out to meetup groups and meet new people. Go out for drinks or a movie, you never know who you meet.
I met a head hunter, Eduardo in a meetup group. He placed me in the company I am working currently.
 

Ketevan

Hero Member
Mar 26, 2012
803
34
UK
Category........
Visa Office......
London (Federal), Paris (BIQ)
NOC Code......
4162
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-03-2011 (Quebec); 29-02-2012 (Federal), signed by KRSZWDA
Nomination.....
Interview letter received from BIQ (Paris) November 2011
AOR Received.
15-08-2011 (Quebec); 23-03-2012 (Federal, e-mail)
File Transfer...
19-04-2012 (London started processing)
Med's Request
12-06-2012 (delivered on 19-06-2012 by post)
Med's Done....
04-07-2012 (received by London on 09-07-2012, signed by IAN); appeared on ECAS on 31-07-2012
Interview........
06-02-2012 (got CSQ at Paris BIQ)
Passport Req..
30-07-12, but cancelled on 08-08-12 (additional background checks needed :o ) New passport req. - 05/11/12
VISA ISSUED...
20-11-12 (Passport submitted in person 15/11/12; Decision made and canadian address on ECAS 23/11/12; passport picked up in person 29/11/12).
LANDED..........
09-03-13, Montreal YUL
Please advise what was the job? I am thinking of applying to call center jobs, but as our friend said above, I don't think it will be easy to grab although many immigrants got it easily. Even teller jobs require years of similar experience.
.

emamabd said:
As you probably have seen - we are both 2 recently landed immigrants and were sharing thoughts, plus some experiences of people i know who landed several years ago - i don't think that makes me a troll, don't just go around forums accusing people without any reason.

Besides, what benefit do you think a new immigrant would get out of your words above? You mentioned education wastes money (which i think is wrong - education can never be a total waste, even if you didn't benefit from it immediately - at some point you will benefit from it), survival jobs are impossible to get (which is very wrong, i was already offered a survival job only 2 weeks after landing - but chose not to go for it at this stage)

If you have something useful to say (which i doubt) then say it, otherwise keep your words to yourself as they are absolutely of no use to anyone here. You are trying to demotivate new immigrants - if you were not able to succeed in this country - its too bad for you - but it doesn't mean that anyone else will fail.
 

emamabd

Champion Member
Jun 22, 2012
1,815
428
Ketevan said:
Please advise what was the job? I am thinking of applying to call center jobs, but as our friend said above, I don't think it will be easy to grab although many immigrants got it easily. Even teller jobs require years of similar experience.
.
it was a warehouse job, i got that chance through an employment agency - but as i said i'm not focusing now on survival jobs so i haven't done much research on that issue yet. Don't be discouraged by what that "person" mentioned earlier, try you luck - i dont believe it would be difficult to get a teller job or call center job - yes you will be competing with canadians - but those are "low-skilled" canadians you should be able to get a chance.

I have met some canadians in "resume writing" workshops and "interview skills workshops" who don't even know how to use MS office and haven't persued any eduation after completing highschool, do you think it would be difficult to compete with them?

Have confidence in yourself, you know the language & you have the education - nothing should be standing in your way
 

Ketevan

Hero Member
Mar 26, 2012
803
34
UK
Category........
Visa Office......
London (Federal), Paris (BIQ)
NOC Code......
4162
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-03-2011 (Quebec); 29-02-2012 (Federal), signed by KRSZWDA
Nomination.....
Interview letter received from BIQ (Paris) November 2011
AOR Received.
15-08-2011 (Quebec); 23-03-2012 (Federal, e-mail)
File Transfer...
19-04-2012 (London started processing)
Med's Request
12-06-2012 (delivered on 19-06-2012 by post)
Med's Done....
04-07-2012 (received by London on 09-07-2012, signed by IAN); appeared on ECAS on 31-07-2012
Interview........
06-02-2012 (got CSQ at Paris BIQ)
Passport Req..
30-07-12, but cancelled on 08-08-12 (additional background checks needed :o ) New passport req. - 05/11/12
VISA ISSUED...
20-11-12 (Passport submitted in person 15/11/12; Decision made and canadian address on ECAS 23/11/12; passport picked up in person 29/11/12).
LANDED..........
09-03-13, Montreal YUL
I also started an employability course at a government agency but left after 3 hours because it had 0 relevance to job hunt - we discussed quebec social values, history etc. Did you find these workshops through recruitment agency? If yes, may I ask its name?


emamabd said:
it was a warehouse job, i got that chance through an employment agency - but as i said i'm not focusing now on survival jobs so i haven't done much research on that issue yet. Don't be discouraged by what that "person" mentioned earlier, try you luck - i dont believe it would be difficult to get a teller job or call center job - yes you will be competing with canadians - but those are "low-skilled" canadians you should be able to get a chance.

I have met some canadians in "resume writing" workshops and "interview skills workshops" who don't even know how to use MS office and haven't persued any eduation after completing highschool, do you think it would be difficult to compete with them?

Have confidence in yourself, you know the language & you have the education - nothing should be standing in your way
 

emamabd

Champion Member
Jun 22, 2012
1,815
428
Ketevan said:
I also started an employability course at a government agency but left after 3 hours because it had 0 relevance to job hunt - we discussed quebec social values, history etc. Did you find these workshops through recruitment agency? If yes, may I ask its name?
yes they were offered through an agency in ontario (government funded) & they also offered survival jobs - but they dont have a branch in Montreal or anywhere in quebec - so if i pass you their name it wouldn't be of much use

Try to find goverenment agencies who offer similiar services in your area, if you visit career fairs you should also meet a few of them there...i just quickly googled and found the below upoming career fairs:

http://emploiformation.com/en/exhibitors/

Montreal Job and Training Fair
40th edition - March 27th & 28th, 2013
Palais des congrès de Montréal

Engineering Career Fair (Montreal)
6th edition - March 27th & 28th, 2013
(mines - aeronautics - energy - transport - IT)
Palais des congrès de Montréal

Insurance and Financial Institutions Job Fair
March 27th & 28th, 2013
Palais des congrès de Montréal

http://www.ecarrieres.com/en/salons/montreal-presse/

I hope you find these links useful,
 

Ketevan

Hero Member
Mar 26, 2012
803
34
UK
Category........
Visa Office......
London (Federal), Paris (BIQ)
NOC Code......
4162
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-03-2011 (Quebec); 29-02-2012 (Federal), signed by KRSZWDA
Nomination.....
Interview letter received from BIQ (Paris) November 2011
AOR Received.
15-08-2011 (Quebec); 23-03-2012 (Federal, e-mail)
File Transfer...
19-04-2012 (London started processing)
Med's Request
12-06-2012 (delivered on 19-06-2012 by post)
Med's Done....
04-07-2012 (received by London on 09-07-2012, signed by IAN); appeared on ECAS on 31-07-2012
Interview........
06-02-2012 (got CSQ at Paris BIQ)
Passport Req..
30-07-12, but cancelled on 08-08-12 (additional background checks needed :o ) New passport req. - 05/11/12
VISA ISSUED...
20-11-12 (Passport submitted in person 15/11/12; Decision made and canadian address on ECAS 23/11/12; passport picked up in person 29/11/12).
LANDED..........
09-03-13, Montreal YUL
Thank you very much for taking the time to search this. I will def go to the one on March 27th. There is government funded agency here called Centre Local d'emploi but all jobs advertised there require long years of experience. But probably I am not effectively using all resources. I admire your persistence and determination.

emamabd said:
yes they were offered through an agency in ontario (government funded) & they also offered survival jobs - but they dont have a branch in Montreal or anywhere in quebec - so if i pass you their name it wouldn't be of much use

Try to find goverenment agencies who offer similiar services in your area, if you visit career fairs you should also meet a few of them there...i just quickly googled and found the below upoming career fairs:

http://emploiformation.com/en/exhibitors/

Montreal Job and Training Fair
40th edition - March 27th & 28th, 2013
Palais des congrès de Montréal

Engineering Career Fair (Montreal)
6th edition - March 27th & 28th, 2013
(mines - aeronautics - energy - transport - IT)
Palais des congrès de Montréal

Insurance and Financial Institutions Job Fair
March 27th & 28th, 2013
Palais des congrès de Montréal

http://www.ecarrieres.com/en/salons/montreal-presse/

I hope you find these links useful,
 

emamabd

Champion Member
Jun 22, 2012
1,815
428
Ketevan said:
Thank you very much for taking the time to search this. I will def go to the one on March 27th. There is government funded agency here called Centre Local d'emploi but all jobs advertised there require long years of experience. But probably I am not effectively using all resources. I admire your persistence and determination.
Good luck, yes, go there and talk to agency representatives...all agencies that you'll find, present yourself and get their contacts ...they are there to help you,so make the most use of it
 

winie

Star Member
Jan 24, 2013
67
0
Hi,

I am from India coming to Canada for my masters in computer engg. this may

I wanted to know about job scenario in IT.I am a Oracle Certified professional and have 2 or 3 internships but no work experience.

what are the jobs prospects for me after completing my martes??any idea?

thanks
 

Ketevan

Hero Member
Mar 26, 2012
803
34
UK
Category........
Visa Office......
London (Federal), Paris (BIQ)
NOC Code......
4162
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
18-03-2011 (Quebec); 29-02-2012 (Federal), signed by KRSZWDA
Nomination.....
Interview letter received from BIQ (Paris) November 2011
AOR Received.
15-08-2011 (Quebec); 23-03-2012 (Federal, e-mail)
File Transfer...
19-04-2012 (London started processing)
Med's Request
12-06-2012 (delivered on 19-06-2012 by post)
Med's Done....
04-07-2012 (received by London on 09-07-2012, signed by IAN); appeared on ECAS on 31-07-2012
Interview........
06-02-2012 (got CSQ at Paris BIQ)
Passport Req..
30-07-12, but cancelled on 08-08-12 (additional background checks needed :o ) New passport req. - 05/11/12
VISA ISSUED...
20-11-12 (Passport submitted in person 15/11/12; Decision made and canadian address on ECAS 23/11/12; passport picked up in person 29/11/12).
LANDED..........
09-03-13, Montreal YUL
I have to thank you for giving me the idea of going to job fair. I handed my CV to a call center representative there and they phoned me for interview. I went there today - it was a fruitful experience of a real interview.
I was expecting the recruiter to mention that I Am overqualified for the position, but she did not ask such questions.

emamabd said:
Good luck, yes, go there and talk to agency representatives...all agencies that you'll find, present yourself and get their contacts ...they are there to help you,so make the most use of it
 

emamabd

Champion Member
Jun 22, 2012
1,815
428
Ketevan said:
I have to thank you for giving me the idea of going to job fair. I handed my CV to a call center representative there and they phoned me for interview. I went there today - it was a fruitful experience of a real interview.
I was expecting the recruiter to mention that I Am overqualified for the position, but she did not ask such questions.
Thats good news, good luck with the remaining process - i hope you get hired soon. That was exactly what i expected...getting a survival job is not difficult, but getting a job in your own field requires time and patience...and a good plan as well. Hopefully by time you also manage to build contacts which will help you in exploring better job opportunities.