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IEC Visa to OWP Implied Status (PR Application) Help!

Spikey92

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Please understand that you can indeed keep working if you had a CLOSED WORK PERMIT and applied for a new one before it expired. IEC visas are open work permits that cant be extended etc.

You are WRONG.Your lawyer is WRONG too.
How about you call CIC about three times and see what the officers will tell you.
Please explain to them that the current work permit youre talking about is a work &travel.
If you just say can I continue working on implied status on my old visa they might think youre here on a closed work permit. Be specific.
 

canuck_in_uk

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same employer under the same conditions

As the others have said, this is merely a form letter and refers to having a closed work permit, not an IEC.


You have obviously made the decision to keep working, so I do wonder why you keep coming back here and posting more about it. You seem to be trying very hard to convince us that it is allowed but that's not going to happen.
 

Jamesdavid3

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This form is not mine its someone Else's who is on the EXACT same visa as me.

IEC working holiday work permit, if he received that letter stating he can continue working I'm sure he will do.

Open or closed i'm sure doesn't matter and I'm sure they would have written that in the letter to him. They know hes on a IEC work permit which ends in August, yet still they have told him that he can still work.
 

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Jamesdavid3 said:
This form is not mine its someone Else's who is on the EXACT same visa as me.

IEC working holiday work permit, if he received that letter stating he can continue working I'm sure he will do.

Open or closed i'm sure doesn't matter and I'm sure they would have written that in the letter to him. They know hes on a IEC work permit which ends in August, yet still they have told him that he can still work.
That implies the IO take the time to track down your individual permit. They don't. They expect you to manage yourself. They do send our standard form letters that are not tailored to anyone's situation.

However, you aren't listening to anything we have to say, so I'm done. Good luck with your future.
 

Jamesdavid3

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Then that's ridiculous and them giving false information which is illegal. So I'm guessing this person who still thinks he can stay in Canada and work will get deported and his PR declined because he stayed and continued to work...
 

Burundi

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Hi Jamesdavid3 and all,
How did things work for you in the end? I am in the same situation and confused with all the different conflicting information.
My current IEC work permit is due to expire in two days and I have submitted my PR application with the OWP application. I am wondering whether I can continue to work under '' implied status''?
 

screech339

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Burundi said:
Hi Jamesdavid3 and all,
How did things work for you in the end? I am in the same situation and confused with all the different conflicting information.
My current IEC work permit is due to expire in two days and I have submitted my PR application with the OWP application. I am wondering whether I can continue to work under '' implied status''?
Contrary to what jamesdavid has said, you cannot legally work past your IEC expire date unless you happened to get an OWP in your hand in the next 2 days. IEC does not get "implied status"
 

Burundi

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Ahhh Thanks! How about staying in Canada when the IEC visa expires after submitting my PR and OWP? Would I get an implied status to stay as a visitor?

Thanks a bunch!
 

Jamesdavid3

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I have Implied Status and I am still working past the date when my IEC expired as I submitted my OWP application and PR application at the same time before my IEC Expired granting me Implied Status.
 

screech339

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Jamesdavid3 said:
I have Implied Status and I am still working past the date when my IEC expired as I submitted my OWP application and PR application at the same time before my IEC Expired granting me Implied Status.
In other words, you are working illegally past your IEC date. We have provided plenty of postings and statements from CIC on this subject matter. What you do on your own time is fine by me but don't go around telling everyone else that's okay and that IEC have "implied status".

Screech339
 

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Burundi said:
Ahhh Thanks! How about staying in Canada when the IEC visa expires after submitting my PR and OWP? Would I get an implied status to stay as a visitor?

Thanks a bunch!
Yes, you can stay as a tourist but PLEASE don't keep working. It's illegal
 

Jamesdavid3

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So I guess if I had received this document from the CIC

Uploaded with ImageShack.us and they clearly STATE That I can still work under the same company as Implied Status after my IEC expired...

I'm tired of people giving false information, Just look at that document and it couldn't be any more clear.


/sigh
 

screech339

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Jamesdavid3 said:
So I guess if I had received this document from the CIC

Uploaded with ImageShack.us and they clearly STATE That I can still work under the same company as Implied Status after my IEC expired...

I'm tired of people giving false information, Just look at that document and it couldn't be any more clear.
/sigh
/sigh

It is like talking to a brick wall. That condition listed in letter is meant for closed work permit. An IEC is an open work permit. Too different work visa types.

Besides as far as I'm concerned that is a probably a generic cookie cutter letter sent out by CiC to those on work permit not realizing that IEC is an exemption to the rule.
 

screech339

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PRsoon said:
Hey guys, I received this email from CIC that might answer our questions about the implied status for IEC and PGWP.

Note the "*" in the end of the message. It states clearly that international youth exchange programs do not apply for Implied Status.

At the same time, it clearly states that this relates only to international youth exchange programs. That means it does not apply to PGWP. So yes, people with expired PGWP are indeed allowed to continue working under implied status.

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Sir, Madam,

Thank you for contacting Citizenship and Immigration Canada. I am pleased to follow up on your request:

Implied Status - Temporary Residents

As a temporary resident (TR), if you send your application for an extension of your authorization to remain in Canada at the latest on the expiry date of your status, you will be considered in status as a TR until a decision is made on the application. This is known as an Implied Status*.

If you hold a work permit or a study permit, you can continue working or studying under the conditions of your previous permit if you have applied to extend your stay in Canada under the same category. However, if you have applied to extend your stay under another category, you must stop working or studying.

If you leave Canada while under implied status, you may be authorized to:

Re-enter Canada as a TR, if the Case Processing Centre (CPC) has not yet made a decision on your application to extend your work permit. Please note that you will not be permitted to work/study until you receive your new permit. You must satisfy the officer at the port of entry (POE) that you have sufficient means of support. This applies if you:
are temporary resident visa (TRV) exempt;
held a valid multiple-entry visa before leaving Canada; or
travelled only to the United States** and/or St.Pierre and Miquelon by the end of the period initially authorized for their stay or any extension to it;
Re-enter Canada as a worker/student, if the officer at the POE determines that your application to extend your work/study permit was approved by the CPC while you were outside Canada;
or
Apply for a new work/study permit at the POE provided you have the right to do so under the Regulations.
For more information on implied status, please consult the Operational Manual - Overseas Processing (OP 11) - Section 24.

* Participants in international youth exchange programs (e.g., Student Work Abroad Program (SWAP), International Experience Canada (IEC) or Working Holiday Program (WHP)) do not benefit from implied status, unless extending a work permit not initially issued for the time limit authorized by the program.

**Including its Territories and Possessions.

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So I suppose this letter from CIC is a fake letter? Note that at bottom that IEC does not get "implied status".

Which lead me to believe that your letter from CIC is a cookie cutter response to everyone on close work permit. CIC probably assumed you to be on a closed work permit since you applied for an "OPEN" work permit.

So quoting a line from you (your words not mine).

I'm tired of people giving false information, Just look at that document and it couldn't be any more clear.

Screech339