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Jomole

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Hi all
Please i need your help
i have an ongoing pnp application….i successfully added my husband to my application because we go married after i submitted ITA and our application was approved but i gave birth to our baby shortly before it was approved, so we’re in the process of adding our baby.
Problem now is we just found out my husband has an illegitimate child from 10yrs ago. The mother just contacted my husband to tell him about this child.
1.) Can we still add this child to our application now and what impact does it have on our application
2.)Can we sponsor the child later even if we don’t declared her
3) what would be the best course of action
 

moscatojuices

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Feb 21, 2022
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Hi all
Please i need your help
i have an ongoing pnp application….i successfully added my husband to my application because we go married after i submitted ITA and our application was approved but i gave birth to our baby shortly before it was approved, so we’re in the process of adding our baby.
Problem now is we just found out my husband has an illegitimate child from 10yrs ago. The mother just contacted my husband to tell him about this child.
1.) Can we still add this child to our application now and what impact does it have on our application
2.)Can we sponsor the child later even if we don’t declared her
3) what would be the best course of action
Oh my god.... wow sorry I don't know how on earth you'd deal with this. In my opinion you basically send a letter of explanation to IRCC informing them of this and let them tell you what they need from you. I doubt that you can sponsor a child you don't even know about and are disconnected from, given he/she is being cared for by another person who is not your husband.

I mean, more importantly, why would the other mother let you take that child to Canada after caring for him/her for the last 10 years???????
 

Jomole

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Oh my god.... wow sorry I don't know how on earth you'd deal with this. In my opinion you basically send a letter of explanation to IRCC informing them of this and let them tell you what they need from you. I doubt that you can sponsor a child you don't even know about and are disconnected from, given he/she is being cared for by another person who is not your husband.

I mean, more importantly, why would the other mother let you take that child to Canada after caring for him/her for the last 10 years???????
I don’t want to inform IRCC yet because i don’t know the consequence of doing that and i don’t want to jeopardise the future of my daughter and i when i don’t even know if her mother will release her to us
I just want to know if it’s possible to declare her at this stage of our application in case my husband would want to sponsor her in future and if it will not be tagged as misrepresentation
 

moscatojuices

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I don’t want to inform IRCC yet because i don’t know the consequence of doing that and i don’t want to jeopardise the future of my daughter and i when i don’t even know if her mother will release her to us
I just want to know if it’s possible to declare her at this stage of our application in case my husband would want to sponsor her in future and if it will not be tagged as misrepresentation
In my opinion two things:
  • How do you know that the child is definitely his? Is there evidence of a blood connection via genetic testing? Just because some woman from 10 years ago calls your husband and says: "Hi! Just wanted to tell you we have a child together" doesn't mean it's true. People like about this shit all the time to get favours
  • If so, you must first definitely establish with the other mother if she would be willing to share custody.

What I don't like about this situation is that it looks like the other mother conveniently decided to tell your husband about this child during your application to come to Canada. It's like she learned that you and your husband are applying for Canadian PR, and then conveniently decided to tell him about this. Seems very very fishy.

@scylla & @Naturgrl going to bring you in here.
 

Jomole

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In my opinion you must first definitely establish with the other mother if she would be willing to share custody.

What I don't like about this situation is that it looks like the other mother conveniently decided to tell your husband about this child during your application to come to Canada. Seems extremely suspicious and opportunistic timing.

@scylla & @Naturgrl going to bring you in here.
While trying to establish if she’ll share custody what if our application get approved again because it was already approved and we’ve been sent passport request but i gave birth a few days before the passport request was sent, so i had to inform IRCC of the birth of our daughter….hence why we even still have out application opened
So i just want to know if we can add her as a non-accompanying dependent and if that wont affect our application as misrepresentation
 

moscatojuices

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While trying to establish if she’ll share custody what if our application get approved again because it was already approved and we’ve been sent passport request but i gave birth a few days before the passport request was sent, so i had to inform IRCC of the birth of our daughter….hence why we even still have out application opened
So i just want to know if we can add her as a non-accompanying dependent and if that wont affect our application as misrepresentation
But wait though, why do you believe her? In my opinion, you technically have nothing to add right now because from what you're saying, there isn't any evidence that the child is actually his. You don't want to misrepresent yourself by declaring a child when it's not actually yours (or his) if this is not proven.

So on what basis do you think the child is his? With respect to your gender, there are extremely deceiving women out there who do stuff like this all the time to get child support from unsuspecting men.

So I suggest not panicking first. Why is she telling him this after 10 years? Is there any proof of an actual blood relation?

You can't just believe someone because they decided to make one phone call and said something like this. Where is the evidence?????
 
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Jomole

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But wait though, why do you believe her? In my opinion, you technically have nothing to add right now because from what you're saying, there isn't any evidence that the child is actually his. You don't want to misrepresent yourself by declaring a child when it's not actually yours (or his) if this is not proven.

So on what basis do you think the child is his? With respect to your gender, there are extremely deceiving women out there who do stuff like this all the time to get child support from unsuspecting men.

So I suggest not panicking first. Why is she telling him this after 10 years? Is there any proof of an actual blood relation?

You can't just believe someone because they decided to make one phone call and said something like this. Where is the evidence?????
We got a dna test done and it proves he’s the child’s father and that’s why I’m in this dilemma.
So I’m just trying to weigh all our options.
 

moscatojuices

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We got a dna test done and it proves he’s the child’s father and that’s why I’m in this dilemma.
So I’m just trying to weigh all our options.
Okay let's wait for our more experienced moderators to answer. Is there a reason the other mother decided to disclose this now? Was it anything to do with your application for Canadian PR?
 

Jomole

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Okay let's wait for our more experienced moderators to answer. Is there a reason the other mother decided to disclose this now? Was it anything to do with your application for Canadian PR?
She doesn’t even know that we have an application for Canadian pr. the last time my husband spoke to her was about 10+ years ago. She only contacted him and said she was tired of taking care of the child alone and she wants my husband to start paying for the child’s upkeep. This woman is married with a family of her own but the child in question stays with her mother.
They have refused to give my husband custody of the child for now but i know in future when the child is older it might be a better opportunity for her to migrate to canada

So i just want to know if we can add her as a non-accompanying dependent and if that wont affect our application as misrepresentation
 

moscatojuices

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She doesn’t even know that we have an application for Canadian pr. the last time my husband spoke to her was about 10+ years ago. She only contacted him and said she was tired of taking care of the child alone and she wants my husband to start paying for the child’s upkeep. This woman is married with a family of her own but the child in question stays with her mother.
They have refused to give my husband custody of the child for now but i know in future when the child is older it might be a better opportunity for her to migrate to canada

So i just want to know if we can add her as a non-accompanying dependent and if that wont affect our application as misrepresentation
I doubt it's misrepresentation or concealment of fact when you (he) didn't know about it. This can potentially be proven by when the DNA test was done and by the timing of any messages/calls and an affidavit on the part of your husband. Anyway wait for the others to respond as they will probably have more ideas on how to deal with this.
 

Jomole

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I doubt it's misrepresentation or concealment of fact when you (he) didn't know about it. This can potentially be proven by when the DNA test was done and by the timing of any messages/calls and an affidavit on the part of your husband. Anyway wait for the others to respond as they will probably have more ideas on how to deal with this.
Okay
Thank you
 

Naturgrl

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Hi all
Please i need your help
i have an ongoing pnp application….i successfully added my husband to my application because we go married after i submitted ITA and our application was approved but i gave birth to our baby shortly before it was approved, so we’re in the process of adding our baby.
Problem now is we just found out my husband has an illegitimate child from 10yrs ago. The mother just contacted my husband to tell him about this child.
1.) Can we still add this child to our application now and what impact does it have on our application
2.)Can we sponsor the child later even if we don’t declared her
3) what would be the best course of action
You must add the child and the child must undergo a medical. The child is your husband’s through a DNA test. If you don’t declare then that is misrepresentation (you know about the child and have DNA proof) and then you can never sponsor him or her.
 

moscatojuices

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You must add the child and the child must undergo a medical. The child is your husband’s through a DNA test. If you don’t declare then that is misrepresentation (you know about the child and have DNA proof) and then you can never sponsor him or her.
My suggestion would be to add the child along with a letter of explanation of this situation, which should be carefully reviewed by a consultant. OP you do not want to get this wrong. I don't believe you have committed representation because you didn't know about your husband's child until now, but let's be realistic that will delay your processing because IRCC is going to need to process a very complex update and they may ask you questions about it.

The most important thing you can do is be honest and I'm sure it'll be fine. Don't hide because that's where you or your new step-child will be screwed in the future.
 

Jomole

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My suggestion would be to add the child along with a letter of explanation of this situation, which should be carefully reviewed by a consultant. OP you do not want to get this wrong. I don't believe you have committed representation because you didn't know about your husband's child until now, but let's be realistic that will delay your processing because IRCC is going to need to process a very complex update and they may ask you questions about it.

The most important thing you can do is be honest and I'm sure it'll be fine. Don't hide because that's where you or your new step-child will be screwed in the future.
Alright thank you
I believe the best course of action will be to get representation at this point because i don’t want anything that’ll affect my application negatively