I MET MY CONJUGAL PARTNER ONLINE

[canadalover4987]

To qualify as conjugal, you need to show a marriage-like relationship, and that will be very difficult to do if you've only met in person for the first time recently. The age gap is another big obstacle to overcome.

Try for a TRV, you never know, you might get lucky. If you succeed, then you can be together, get married, and spend more time together, which will help you in the PR application.

That is so true. i agree with the age gap is the farthest thing we need to face. That is why she name me as her beneficiary in her business and her last will and testament. Proving love with huge age gap is something so subjective, as long as we show that we communicate and we plan to live together and build dreams together----- i think they might be convince besides im sure that this is not a first case they handled.

 

[surleplateau]

i just wanted to ensure that i am in the right page if applying trv is worth it or should i apply for pr right away. my case is totally difficult because its a conjugal. I am not legally married to her yet. .

At the very least, apply for the TRV to show CIC that you guys attempted to have her visit in Canada. If she gets a visitor visa, then she can come and you guys can marry, and then you can apply as married spouses.

Until you show that there are legal barriers to marriage (that you tried to overcome within reason) you will most likely be denied conjugal partner status.

 

[canadalover4987]

At the very least, apply for the TRV to show CIC that you guys attempted to have her visit in Canada. If she gets a visitor visa, then she can come and you guys can marry, and then you can apply as married spouses.

Until you show that there are legal barriers to marriage (that you tried to overcome within reason) you will most likely be denied conjugal partner status.

Thats makes sense. Do you think applying for a trv in an early stage is important? , i mean we just been personally together for 2 months but ive known her since jan 2014. Hows does cic see online relationship?

 

[jamsham12]

That is so true. i agree with the age gap is the farthest thing we need to face. That is why she name me as her beneficiary in her business and her last will and testament. Proving love with huge age gap is something so subjective, as long as we show that we communicate and we plan to live together and build dreams together----- i think they might be convince besides im sure that this is not a first case they handled.

Age should be no barrier, as long as you show the relationship is genuine and not a marriage/immigration of convenience, there should be no issues/interviews when along in the P.R process. Like others have stated since she is from the Philippines ,get her on a visitor visa and if possible and when ready get married and then apply for the spousal sponsorship, start collecting proof of the relationship, the more you have the better chances of approval.

 

[canadalover4987]

Age should be no barrier, as long as you show the relationship is genuine and not a marriage/immigration of convenience, there should be no issues/interviews when along in the P.R process. Like others have stated since she is from the Philippines ,get her on a visitor visa and if possible and when ready get married and then apply for the spousal sponsorship, start collecting proof of the relationship, the more you have the better chances of approval.

There are few people telling me that i should not show everything as a proof of conjugal relationship in applying trv. Is that true??? If yes what are the list i should submit? Thanks.. Please see the list of what we have.

 

[canadalover4987]

There are few people telling me that i should not show everything as a proof of conjugal relationship in applying trv. Is that true???


is there any document in cic can be found about this?

 

[jamsham12]

There are few people telling me that i should not show everything as a proof of conjugal relationship in applying trv. Is that true??? If yes what are the list i should submit? Thanks.. Please see the list of what we have.

Right because a TRV is a temporary resident visa aka vistor visa, im saying when you submit the p.r application show everything all the proof you have. With a TRV just show she has ties back to her home country as she is techincally a vistor. I would show any type of employment she has whether it is through an employer or if she employs herself, that is key to showing that she has ties back to her home country.

 

[Rob_TO]

Thanks for the input, i totally agree with you that to show immigration barrier, my partner MUST try or attempt to visit me, if she got denied then we can put it in our Outland PR application which much longer to process. but how about in my end? Will CIC required me to live in a country that i dont like to live with due to political stability or even security reasons? i want her here and we can have better future here.


If i told immigration the reason why i dont like to live in the Philippines because of crimes, security reasons and such, will CIC consider it? besides i wont be able to work if i decide to live in the Philippines which matters to me because i want to build our future together.

If her TRV to Canada is rejected and you go the conjugal route, you need to satisfy CIC that there are legal or immigration barriers to you getting married of living together 12 months to become common-law. Simply not wanting to live somewhere or not being able to find work somewhere, can be seen as your personal choice so usually not given much weight by CIC.

So if you go conjugal you should concentrate on things like:
- Same-sex marriage is illegal in the Philippines, and your partner has had TRVs denied to countries that allow same-sex marriage (like Canada).
- As far as I know, Canadians can not get a 1-year visa to Philippines. So "living" there for 12 months continuous is not guaranteed
- While same-sex relationships in the Philippines are not illegal, I believe public displays of affection for same-sex couples could be considered an illegal act. So you could indicate there is fear of prosecution/harassment for your lifestyle

It's really up to a visa officer if they will accept your conjugal application or not.

 

[canadalover4987]

Right because a TRV is a temporary resident visa aka vistor visa, im saying when you submit the p.r application show everything all the proof you have. With a TRV just show she has ties back to her home country as she is techincally a vistor. I would show any type of employment she has whether it is through an employer or if she employs herself, that is key to showing that she has ties back to her home country.

Thanks jamsham12.

If her TRV to Canada is rejected and you go the conjugal route, you need to satisfy CIC that there are legal or immigration barriers to you getting married of living together 12 months to become common-law. Simply not wanting to live somewhere or not being able to find work somewhere, can be seen as your personal choice so usually not given much weight by CIC.

So if you go conjugal you should concentrate on things like:
- Same-sex marriage is illegal in the Philippines, and your partner has had TRVs denied to countries that allow same-sex marriage (like Canada).
- As far as I know, Canadians can not get a 1-year visa to Philippines. So "living" there for 12 months continuous is not guaranteed
- While same-sex relationships in the Philippines are not illegal, I believe public displays of affection for same-sex couples could be considered an illegal act. So you could indicate there is fear of prosecution/harassment for your lifestyle

It's really up to a visa officer if they will accept your conjugal application or not.

i know that conjugal application consist of two parts: first, i need to be eligible as a sponsor which i am, and the second part is the application will be sent to my partners home country.


how would i know if the conjugal case will pushed through?

 

[canadalover4987]

What do you think about our case? Any more recommendation?

 

[jamsham12]

Thanks jamsham12.


i know that conjugal application consist of two parts: first, i need to be eligible as a sponsor which i am, and the second part is the application will be sent to my partners home country.


how would i know if the conjugal case will pushed through?

If your partners TRV gets rejected like others have stated in this thread, you have a shot at conjugal if the Philippines does not recognize transgender marriages which i am not sure, not quite sure of the law there. But if she receives a TRV, conjugal would be out the door. Conjugal only exists if there is a legal barrier between either nations for you to be with her from my understanding(?). you best bet is to have her come to Canada(work on the TRV asap if this you want her to come be with you), decide whether or not you both want to get married if she is approved for the TRV and once you get married, I would submit the P.R app, but start collecting evidence like i have stated before of your relationship.

 

[Rob_TO]

i know that conjugal application consist of two parts: first, i need to be eligible as a sponsor which i am, and the second part is the application will be sent to my partners home country.

how would i know if the conjugal case will pushed through?

Yes, you would be approved as sponsor then the conjugal app would be sent on to visa office in Manila for applicant processing. Once Manila starts processing of the app, if the visa officer has any concerns about the conjugal aspect of the application they will send you a request that outlines their concerns and asks for more supporting information. An interview also may or may not be required.

The only way to know if your conjugal case will be successful, is to apply with a strong app with lots of evidence, and wait for the feedback from CIC.

 

[canadalover4987]

Please note that i met my partner online in Jan 2014 then Jan 2015 i visited her for 2 months,
I will be visiting her again this coming Dec 2015.

We are planning to apply for TRV this coming September 2015 for her to come in Canada. There are some thread stating that my case is pretty much too early or its premature to apply for her trv, is there any truth about this?


The idea is i wanted her to come as my conjugal partner - not a friend or fiance, is that possible? do cic allow conjugal partner to have trv? if yes then how would they know if we are in a conjugal relationship if there is no presented evidence?


Based on my understanding on this thread, i should concentrate on her country and family ties in the Philippines and i should limit the info i give about the conjugal affairs. but how about on my invitation letter? should i say on how we met? that we are in a relationship that we had formal holy union? should i say that she is my committed life partner?

 

[shortyp2000]

Please note that i met my partner online in Jan 2014 then Jan 2015 i visited her for 2 months,
I will be visiting her again this coming Dec 2015.

We are planning to apply for TRV this coming September 2015 for her to come in Canada. There are some thread stating that my case is pretty much too early or its premature to apply for her trv, is there any truth about this?


The idea is i wanted her to come as my conjugal partner - not a friend or fiance, is that possible? do cic allow conjugal partner to have trv? if yes then how would they know if we are in a conjugal relationship if there is no presented evidence?


Based on my understanding on this thread, i should concentrate on her country and family ties in the Philippines and i should limit the info i give about the conjugal affairs. but how about on my invitation letter? should i say on how we met? that we are in a relationship that we had formal holy union? should i say that she is my committed life partner?

In my opinion I would say no... but Im not an expert. I know that my husband and I tried for a TRV 3x and were denied every time because they said the links to Canada (us being in a relationship that he would want to continue even more so that we are married and have children) is the reason they denied us for TRV. Once they think that there is a reason that they will want to stay in canada they will have grounds to deny for TRV.

 

[Rob_TO]

Please note that i met my partner online in Jan 2014 then Jan 2015 i visited her for 2 months,
I will be visiting her again this coming Dec 2015.

We are planning to apply for TRV this coming September 2015 for her to come in Canada. There are some thread stating that my case is pretty much too early or its premature to apply for her trv, is there any truth about this?


The idea is i wanted her to come as my conjugal partner - not a friend or fiance, is that possible? do cic allow conjugal partner to have trv? if yes then how would they know if we are in a conjugal relationship if there is no presented evidence?


Based on my understanding on this thread, i should concentrate on her country and family ties in the Philippines and i should limit the info i give about the conjugal affairs. but how about on my invitation letter? should i say on how we met? that we are in a relationship that we had formal holy union? should i say that she is my committed life partner?

She can apply for a TRV even if she didn't know you. There is no requirement of being in a realtionship or a conjugal partner, to apply for a TRV. You just need to convince CIC that you can support yourself financially during your stay in Canada, and that you will return back to your home country after the TRV expires.

So for this reason, typically a TRV becomes MORE difficult to get, after you have declared a conjugal/common-law/married relationship with a Canadian. This presents a huge tie to Canada, and will cause serious concern a TRV holder will not leave no matter what ties back to home country they present.

So if you want her to be approved, simply indicate you are in a bf/gf relationship, and all the ties to home country. With each bit of info you present about being conjugal, having a holy union, shared finances and assets, etc... the less chance you will have of getting the TRV approved.

TRV is not the PR app. There is no requirement to prove a conjugal relationship in a TRV app.