I AM IN MAJOR CRISIS, PLEASE HELP?

[jpsant]

My common law partner of 6 years has decided she does not love me anymore and no longer wants to be with me. I applied to become a PR inland on October 3, 2013 and have been waiting nearly a year now for stage 1 approval. My entire life is here, everything I know and love is here, everything I want is here and this is where I need to be in order to be mentally capable of getting on with my life. That may sound extreme but it's just how I am wired. I have been dreaming about a life here for too long now, have gone through so much to get to the point where i am and am so close to actually acheiving it. I went to school for 2 years and worked for 1, none of which fall under the skilled worker program and I find it hard to beleive that finding an employer who will sponsor you comes easy. I am wondering how else I can possible live here? As I said, my entire mental health rests on being here. I may be able to eventaully get over my common law partner but I cannot lose her AND the entire life that I have come to know here. I am in dire need of help and am willing to hear any sort of advice. How do I go on establishing a life in canada? What are my options? is there any way she can still sponsor me? We submited the application with genuine intentions had no thoughts of "fraud' throughout this entire process. She would still love to sponsor me but if we legally aren't a couple anymore there's literally no other class she can sponsor me in. Is fraud even something to worry about or could we move on through this process easily and officially separate afterwards? i have no idea what to do. I am asking every possible solution here. I fear that if i don't find a way to keep my life in Canada afloat I may end up in a mental hospital or risk harming myself. I am so lost and don't know what to do. Thank you in advance for anything. Ugh.

I'm sorry about that.
Did you live in Canada for those 6 years?
I am not a expert but I believe I read somewhere that you can become a PR depending on how much time you've spent in Canada.
Not sure.. but worth taking a look at that.

 

[zardoz]

I'm sorry about that.
Did you live in Canada for those 6 years?
I am not a expert but I believe I read somewhere that you can become a PR depending on how much time you've spent in Canada.
Not sure.. but worth taking a look at that.

That only applies if you are in Canada under a TRP, which is the exception rather than the normal.

 

[Jamesdavid3]

So you're basically telling the OP to commit fraud and misinterpretation? This is the type of mindset that makes more restrictions for the rest of us in genuine relationships. Makes me question the validity of yours. Wow.

When you are backed up against the wall like this there is only a few options you have which will clearly work

 

[Wahrheit]

When you are backed up against the wall like this there is only a few options you have which will clearly work

You Sir, are a fool. Anyone that takes any immigration advice from you is a bigger fool.

 

[ydj_dil]

Like rhcohen13 said, there is a clause which requires you to be together with your spouse/partner for two years after receiving PR. If in this period, you separate, your PR will be taken back. There is really no way to pass this test unless you are living together, and I doubt your partner will live with you as "friend" for two years after you get PR. Sorry about your situation, but if your sponsor has backed off there is little that can be done.

 

[silenced25]

I am not saying I will committ fraud because even if I wanted to i could never convince her to do it. But as for the 2 year thing, isn't that for conditional PR for couples that were together for 2 years or less? I read that if you've been together longer than that those rules don't really apply. But who knows. I also was under the impression outland US applicants were waiting 30 months instead of 7. This whole "unclear" thing has totally ruined my life, so thanks CIC for the lack of clear information, and the huge delay. I would have had PR before the breakup and would have had legal security if not for this. I feel completely screwed over in many different ways by different people.

 

[keesio]

But as for the 2 year thing, isn't that for conditional PR for couples that were together for 2 years or less? I read that if you've been together longer than that those rules don't really apply.

I believe this is true. So Condition 51 may not apply to you.

However the issue is that when you officially "land" as a PR, the officer will ask you if there have been any changes in your relationship or family (broke up? Did you have a kid?, etc). If you do not answer honestly, you are committing misrepresentation.

I think the best advice i can give is to try to repair your relationship with your partner. Maybe you have already tried and it failed but in case you have not, give it a try. Seek couples counseling. You never know.

 

[silenced25]

I believe this is true. So Condition 51 may not apply to you.

However the issue is that when you officially "land" as a PR, the officer will ask you if there have been any changes in your relationship or family (broke up? Did you have a kid?, etc). If you do not answer honestly, you are committing misrepresentation.

I think the best advice i can give is to try to repair your relationship with your partner. Maybe you have already tried and it failed but in case you have not, give it a try. Seek couples counseling. You never know.

I am very willing to try. Genuinely even with residence aside. I was hoping she would give me the respect of trying again at least until I get residence so that things can stay genuine. This CIC-M inland delay has freaked her out though. When I applied I was expecting a 6 month wait time for a work permit and maybe 10 for full PR. I'm at 12 months and havent even had my file opened yet, so she fears it will still be years until I get my PR. Her mom told her horror stories of some applicants who got lost in the system and have been waiting for 4 years. All of this is working against me.

And again, i have no plans to lie, but just so i'm clear on this. If i am exempt from the rule and they do not check in or I am not obligated for the 2 year grace period...how would they ever even find out about misinterpretation at the landing interview? How does that even come about unless one person straight up tells them?

 

[Jamesdavid3]

I believe this is true. So Condition 51 may not apply to you.

However the issue is that when you officially "land" as a PR, the officer will ask you if there have been any changes in your relationship or family (broke up? Did you have a kid?, etc). If you do not answer honestly, you are committing misrepresentation.

I think the best advice i can give is to try to repair your relationship with your partner. Maybe you have already tried and it failed but in case you have not, give it a try. Seek couples counseling. You never know.

The simple ANSWER HE HAS TO GIVE is just "NO" - They will not question him any further on that. They will not even ask him anything about the relationship at all and then after that quick process YOU WILL HAVE PR FOREVER...

Some of you really don't understand what you have to do sometimes to get somewhere, this person has been here 6 years, 6 years working and paying taxes. He deserves his PR more than a lot of people here an he is SO CLOSE to getting it.

 

[canadianwoman]

I am very willing to try. Genuinely even with residence aside. I was hoping she would give me the respect of trying again at least until I get residence so that things can stay genuine. This CIC-M inland delay has freaked her out though. When I applied I was expecting a 6 month wait time for a work permit and maybe 10 for full PR. I'm at 12 months and havent even had my file opened yet, so she fears it will still be years until I get my PR. Her mom told her horror stories of some applicants who got lost in the system and have been waiting for 4 years. All of this is working against me.

And again, i have no plans to lie, but just so i'm clear on this. If i am exempt from the rule and they do not check in or I am not obligated for the 2 year grace period...how would they ever even find out about misinterpretation at the landing interview? How does that even come about unless one person straight up tells them?

Your partner sounds stressed out and worried about the PR process. I too think it might be possible to revive the relationship. If she still loves you, but finds this all too stressful, try to convince her to give you another chance.

 

[QuebecOkie]

To the OP, please ignore posts when it is obvious that the poster advises fraud. It is not he who will suffer the consequences (and if you have any doubts about someone's advice, sometimes it helps to click on their profile and look at their forum ratings; one with a rating of +2/-128 has probably given bad advice a time or two before).

I'm sorry you find yourself in this situation. I do hope you're able to work through your issues with your sponsor. The application process IS quite stressful. I was a basket case for a good long while (I, too, am an American who made the mistake of filing an inland application). However, even if it seems to be, the process is NOT forever. It is finite.

However, if you are not able to save your relationship, and if you aren't able to find another solution to enable you to stay here, please don't freak out and think your life is over. I've "started over" twice at the ripe old age of 34. Once when I divorced my ex-husband after 7 years of marriage; I left with my clothes, my car, and whatever else would fit in my car, and that was it. I built a new life, one I loved, over the following four years. Then I met a handsome Canadian. And he bulldozed that lovely life when he told me he was posted to Québec after we had been dating for a year and a half. But while it took me some time to find my footing here (mostly because it was such a BIG change - it's a very French area, and I had to learn French before I could hope to work or deal easily with day-to-day life), two years after the move, I'm in love with life again. You can do it, if you just keep putting one foot in front of the other.

 

[Rob_TO]

And again, i have no plans to lie, but just so i'm clear on this. If i am exempt from the rule and they do not check in or I am not obligated for the 2 year grace period...how would they ever even find out about misinterpretation at the landing interview? How does that even come about unless one person straight up tells them?

First off, a requirement of the inland PR process in all cases is that you must cohabit with your sponsor in Canada during the entire application processing time. If a sponsor/applicant separate during the processing and CIC finds out (if they see mailing address was changed at some government level), then they can simply cancel the PR application while it's in progress.

Second, after PR is approved there is a landing interview that both sponsor and applicant have to attend. The visa officers specifically ask if you are still a couple, and still cohabiting. At the interview they often ask to see documentation showing the same address. If you lie, that is misrepresentation. I'm sure a common way they find out later is by someone with a grudge against either the applicant or sponsor, reporting it to CIC. If this were to ever happen then the applicant could lose PR and be banned from Canada, and the sponsor could face criminal charges.

Plus there is the issue that the sponsor would be financially liable for the applicant for 3 years after they get PR. For this reason alone, most sponsors would not want an ex-spouse to get PR let alone purposely commit fraud to help them do it.

If you want to continue on with your PR app, then #1 you should try and revive your relationship with your common-law partner. If your partner doesn't call CIC to cancel the app, you still have a chance that you could get back together as a common-law couple and continue on with the application. If you've been waiting 12 months already, then you are just 1 month or so away from getting your OWP and getting things back to normal.

The simple ANSWER HE HAS TO GIVE is just "NO" - They will not question him any further on that. They will not even ask him anything about the relationship at all and then after that quick process YOU WILL HAVE PR FOREVER...

Completely wrong, and you really need to stop giving advice for people to commit fraud.

There are many cases of visa officers asking a couple to prove their cohabitation at the time of the landing interview. Someone told one story where the visa officer made the applicant go to their local bank and get a copy of a bank statement that shows their current address, and bring it back to the CIC office to complete the landing.

 

[silenced25]

Trying. just hope she is willing but she doesn't seem into it. Looks like she's completely turning her back on me and taking my life away without letting me fight for it.

 

[Gaymer]

Trying. just hope she is willing but she doesn't seem into it. Looks like she's completely turning her back on me and taking my life away without letting me fight for it.

If she isn't willing, then you can't do much about that. A relationship consists of mutual effort. You can't blame someone over their feelings, it's not like they're something you can control. And forgive me for saying this, but it seems like you are more interested in obtaining your permanent residence rather than your relationship. Judging by what you've told us so far, anyway. Life goes on no matter what happens. Starting over isn't as bad as you make it seem, and sometimes it's for the best.

 

[silenced25]

If she isn't willing, then you can't do much about that. A relationship consists of mutual effort. You can't blame someone over their feelings, it's not like they're something you can control. And forgive me for saying this, but it seems like you are more interested in obtaining your permanent residence rather than your relationship. Judging by what you've told us so far, anyway. Life goes on no matter what happens. Starting over isn't as bad as you make it seem, and sometimes it's for the best.

Well this is an immigration forum so of course i'm focusing on my residence rather than talking about my feelings for her. That's for a different forum. When the person you're closest to and sacrificed so much for comes out of the blue and says not only are we over but so is your life here and everything you've cared about/ wanted for 6 years...yes It's a bit more compicated than me saying "oh dang, guess i better pack up and move on". Spent too much time here working way too hard and was going through so much over this latest CIC delay that taking from me now is just leaving me devestated. I won't stop fighting for my life here in Canada, and it is ridiculous that it is this hard for someone as established here like me to actually live here permanently. It's cruel on many levels. Just because I wasn't born in a country with horrible living conditions doesn't make it any easier/better for me to go back. There was a reason i wanted my life here.