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John101

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Oct 8, 2022
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I am applying for a study permit using the new IRCC portal. I was asked for my National ID but I don't have one. I have included my parents National ID and passports as part of the additional documents I will be submitting. My question is:

Is it a good idea to include their national ids in the additional documents or do i leave them out and only include their passports?
 

niha76

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Nov 12, 2014
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U dont need to submit any national id if u dont have one.parents not necesary .ur passport is enough to show ur proof of relationship.rest are unnecessary .
 

niha76

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Nov 12, 2014
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Only fill out the forms or whatever asked for...no need provide evidence for siblings
 

John101

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Oct 8, 2022
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I am currently not in my country of origin. I am in China with an immigration status of type student that will expire 12/09/2023. While introducing myself in my statement of purpose, I mentioned when my immigration status China will be expiring. Is this appropriate or do i live it out?
 

legalfalcon

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Sep 21, 2015
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Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
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Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
I am currently not in my country of origin. I am in China with an immigration status of type student that will expire 12/09/2023. While introducing myself in my statement of purpose, I mentioned when my immigration status China will be expiring. Is this appropriate or do i live it out?
You have to provide the details of your current status if you are not in your country of citizenship in the forms. However, it does not matter where you live for the purpose of SoP. SoP should strictly be used for demonstrating your intent, your past education, and your future plans.

Anything that has been already addressed in the forms, need not be reiterated in the SoP unless it is essential to be addressed to build a narrative.
 

John101

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Oct 8, 2022
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You have to provide the details of your current status if you are not in your country of citizenship in the forms. However, it does not matter where you live for the purpose of SoP. SoP should strictly be used for demonstrating your intent, your past education, and your future plans.

Anything that has been already addressed in the forms, need not be reiterated in the SoP unless it is essential to be addressed to build a narrative.
Thank you for your response
 

John101

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I have one more question. In the new portal, I was asked to list my post-secondary education, finished and also currently studying. I added my bachelors degree and I also included that I am currently studying masters in computer science in China. Is this a good idea?

The only reason I chose the masters in China was to extend my residence permit. I have done my IME in China and my Police certificate is from China because I turned 18 after I entered China to study for my Bachelors degree ( A graduate of 2022).

I have a strong urge to remove that I am currently studying masters in China from the form, but I still have to submit my residence permit which shows that my visa in China will expire in 2023 (issued in October 2022) to the new IRCC portal (Travel Document) along with expired residence permits and my entry seal. What should I do?
 

wakongah

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Apr 11, 2022
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You have to list it. Misrepresenting any information to IRCC can get you a five-year ban and this information will be shared with other countries, making it hard for you to apply there as well.
 
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canuck78

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I have one more question. In the new portal, I was asked to list my post-secondary education, finished and also currently studying. I added my bachelors degree and I also included that I am currently studying masters in computer science in China. Is this a good idea?

The only reason I chose the masters in China was to extend my residence permit. I have done my IME in China and my Police certificate is from China because I turned 18 after I entered China to study for my Bachelors degree ( A graduate of 2022).

I have a strong urge to remove that I am currently studying masters in China from the form, but I still have to submit my residence permit which shows that my visa in China will expire in 2023 (issued in October 2022) to the new IRCC portal (Travel Document) along with expired residence permits and my entry seal. What should I do?
Agree that it is not an option. Applying from a 3rd country is always challenging. Given that you’ve lived in China for so long providing proof that you intend on returning to your home country after your studies and why a Canadian degree will help you in your home country will be more difficult.
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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You have to provide the details of your current status if you are not in your country of citizenship in the forms. However, it does not matter where you live for the purpose of SoP. SoP should strictly be used for demonstrating your intent, your past education, and your future plans.

Anything that has been already addressed in the forms, need not be reiterated in the SoP unless it is essential to be addressed to build a narrative.
Somewhat disagree because you’ll need to explain how your Canadian degree will help you when you return to your home country. The fact that you haven’t lived in your home country and have lived in China for quite some time makes that more difficult because you haven’t lived or worked in your home country,
 

legalfalcon

VIP Member
Sep 21, 2015
19,051
9,921
Montréal, Quebec, Canada
Category........
FSW
Visa Office......
Ottawa
NOC Code......
4112
App. Filed.......
03-09-2015
Doc's Request.
01-10-2015
AOR Received.
03-09-2015
Med's Done....
17-08-2015
Passport Req..
05-04-2016
VISA ISSUED...
12-04-2016
LANDED..........
05-05-2016
Somewhat disagree because you’ll need to explain how your Canadian degree will help you when you return to your home country. The fact that you haven’t lived in your home country and have lived in China for quite some time makes that more difficult because you haven’t lived or worked in your home country,
There is no requirement to show that an applicant will move to their country of citizenship. The requirement is that the applicant will leave Canada at the end of their stay.

The OP 12 student manual states:

Bona fides
of all foreign nationals applying for a study permit must be assessed on an individual basis; refusals of non-bona fide students may only withstand legal challenge when the refusal is based on the information related to the specific case before the officer. Therefore, while cultural context or historical migration patterns of a client group may be a contributing factor to the decision-making process, they alone are not valid or legally tenable grounds for refusal based on bona fide. If officers wish to take into account outside information, particularly where that information leads to concerns/doubts about the applicant's bona fide, the applicant must be made aware of the information taken into account and given an opportunity to address those concerns.

This interaction should be fully documented in the “Notes” section within the Global Case Management System. The onus, as always, remains on the applicant to establish that they are a bona fide temporary resident who will leave Canada following the completion of their studies pursuant to section R216(1)(b).


Further, the Federal Court of Appeal in Wong (Litigation guardian) v. Canada (Minister of Citizenship and Immigration), [1999] FCJ No 1049 (QL), , held that a visa officer must examine “the totality of the circumstances” and that includes “the long term goal of the applicant” (Wong, above, at para 13). Before determining that an applicant is not a genuine student due to the fact that a program of study does not accord with the professional and educational background of an individual, an Officer should consider the evidence in its entirety, as well as in-depth, in order to address in reasons an applicant’s intentions and motivations to study in Canada in an area of the desired study.

While the applications are processed and assessed based on the "totality" principle, and the law refers to the home country, i.e. the country of residence and not the country of citizenship.

Finally, it is your application, and you are free to do what you wish.
 
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