Husband denied visa to Canada

[Babygirl_pacific]

Oh my this is devastating, I am so sorry you are going through this. But remain positive, start with a new application with additional and new evidence, and prepare your hubby in advance should he have to go through another interview.

Thank you I have never sponsored anyone in my life and never realized it would be this difficult. I have daily text messages from March 2015 to present and still going through this process. If he wasn’t in love, he wouldn’t be texting and calling every day for four years. Even after the visa was denied he said don’t worry my love, god is with us. Our love is strong and god is putting it to test. I love his personality, gentleness of his soul and how he looks for positivity even when things go wrong.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

I have daily text messages from March 2015 to present and still going through this process. If he wasn’t in love, he wouldn’t be texting and calling every day for four years.

Not a comment on your relationship but the reality is that scammers do text and call every day for years, until they get to Canada. It has happened many times on the forum.

I met my husband in the Dominican Republic in March of 2015. We got married 13 months later. July of 2017, I filed for spousal sponsorship. We had our interview in June/2018. My husband was asked a lot of questions about me to which he answered as best as possible. However he forgot the names of my parents, my father passed away before we met and my mother lives in Australia so he never met her either. Although he answered about my parents whereabouts he just couldn’t remember their ethnic names. In my culture we do not refer to our parents by name so he wasn’t use to hearing their names. Also I had a spontaneous miscarriage to which he couldn’t remember the exact date. For this reason the officer said he is not genuine and denied his visa. She was Mexican and she kept asking him why he couldn’t find a Dominican woman and what was wrong with them that he found a foreigner. Everyone has the right to fall in love with whoever they want. Anyway I appealed the decision and submitted all the supporting documents and letters from my mom and brothers and family and friends. Immigration still didn’t accept and now wants a full appeal trial. I can’t afford to pay all this money. Immigration has made me broke with all this back and forth paperwork and lawyers fees. Also I was asked to attend the interview so I took time off from work and went to DR. The officer didn’t even interview me. She just dismissed my husband. She didn’t give us procedural fairness. Then the next day after the interview we get a invitation to Canada letter. Welcoming my husband and giving him links for free prearrival services. We started sharing the good news only to find another letter a week later that denied his visa. This has been the most horrible experience. I’m a single mother. Hardworking and he is also a single dad, works full time, supports his kids and owns his house. The officer said he is not established in his country. She seemed like a prejudice officer because she clearly had it in her to attack him and didn’t look at all the supporting documents. His house is 3 bedroom modern design and he has no debts. He is a genuine man. Doesn’t have a secondary school diploma but is hard working and has always been employed. My MP is not responding to my cry for help. I don’t know what to do? Please if if anyone has any advice. I wanted to apply for a visitors visa but my lawyer said he won’t get it because of what happened. I miss him so much and just want us to be together. I feel it is unfair. We have refugees coming here with zero problems like this. I have been living and contributing to this economy for over 30 years. Why is this happening to me??

Not knowing the names of your spouse's parents or the date of a miscarriage after a 4 year relationship is a huge red flag. Your explanation about the names is extremely weak. I call my parents Mom and Dad, not their mames; my partner still knows their names.

How much time have you spent together in person?

 

[Babygirl_pacific]

Not a comment on your relationship but the reality is that scammers do text and call every day for years, until they get to Canada. It has happened many times on the forum.



Not knowing the names of your spouse's parents or the date of a miscarriage after a 4 year relationship is a huge red flag. Your explanation about the names is extremely weak. I call my parents Mom and Dad, not their mames; my partner still knows their names.

How much time have you spent together in person?

I completely understand your point of view. Just for a minute, try to put yourself in his shoes and try to understand him. He only ever heard me mention my dad’s name maybe once. I went through depression when my dad past away. He was my only family here in Canada. When I talk about my dad I cry. So my husband doesn’t bring it up. I used to take meds until I met my husband who helped me heal from this painful loss. I stopped taking meds. I’m better now. My husband spoke with my mom a lot on the phone and referred to her as mom. We never used names. I did his application and I didn’t have enough experience to guide and prepare him. I, we realize our mistakes. Unless you lived in an island, in the village, you wouldn’t understand this. People back home aren’t as good as us to remember little details like important dates such as the miscarriage. He can tell you the sequence of events but not the dates. Everyone is different. We can’t be judgemental and think that everyone should be like you. Some people have slow processing under pressure and have anxiety. He knew their first names but at that moment he had a mind block and couldn’t remember even the first name. He was so supportive and loving during the miscarriage so should I punish him if he can’t recall the date? Shouldn’t I appreciate his support and kindness more then the fact that he couldn’t remember the date? Normal people under pressure forgets things. He never experienced an interrogation type interview in his life. He didn’t attend secondary school, instead he worked to support his family. Life is not that easy for everyone. I was once married and my husband who is born Canadian raised here could never remember our anniversary date or birthdays, always needed reminder. It didn’t mean he was not genuine. Some men are not good with dates and names. The fact remains that he knew everything else about me. But it’s ok. Immigration thinks like you and we just have to be better prepared. I have a lawyer now. Money that I can’t afford but we have no choice. You’re right. We live in a world that is judgemental. If you and your wife can remember then the entire world should have same capabilities. We would live in a perfect bubble if all our minds operated the same.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

I completely understand your point of view. Just for a minute, try to put yourself in his shoes and try to understand him. He only ever heard me mention my dad’s name maybe once. I went through depression when my dad past away. He was my only family here in Canada. When I talk about my dad I cry. So my husband doesn’t bring it up. I used to take meds until I met my husband who helped me heal from this painful loss. I stopped taking meds. I’m better now. My husband spoke with my mom a lot on the phone and referred to her as mom. We never used names. I did his application and I didn’t have enough experience to guide and prepare him. I, we realize our mistakes. Unless you lived in an island, in the village, you wouldn’t understand this. People back home aren’t as good as us to remember little details like important dates such as the miscarriage. He can tell you the sequence of events but not the dates. Everyone is different. We can’t be judgemental and think that everyone should be like you. Some people have slow processing under pressure and have anxiety. He knew their first names but at that moment he had a mind block and couldn’t remember even the first name. He was so supportive and loving during the miscarriage so should I punish him if he can’t recall the date? Shouldn’t I appreciate his support and kindness more then the fact that he couldn’t remember the date? Normal people under pressure forgets things. He never experienced an interrogation type interview in his life. He didn’t attend secondary school, instead he worked to support his family. Life is not that easy for everyone. I was once married and my husband who is born Canadian raised here could never remember our anniversary date or birthdays, always needed reminder. It didn’t mean he was not genuine. Some men are not good with dates and names. The fact remains that he knew everything else about me. But it’s ok. Immigration thinks like you and we just have to be better prepared. I have a lawyer now. Money that I can’t afford but we have no choice. You’re right. We live in a world that is judgemental. If you and your wife can remember then the entire world should have same capabilities. We would live in a perfect bubble if all our minds operated the same.

Don't assume that everyone who replies to you on this forum is a man...

As I said, not a comment on your relationship. Don't presume to comment on how I think; I am looking at your app from IRCC's perspective because that is the only one that matters. You may not want to hear it but not remembering the names and miscarriage date, even under pressure of an interview, is a huge red flag.

 

[Babygirl_pacific]

Don't assume that everyone who replies to you on this forum is a man...

As I said, not a comment on your relationship. Don't presume to comment on how I think; I am looking at your app from IRCC's perspective because that is the only one that matters. You may not want to hear it but not remembering the names and miscarriage date, even under pressure of an interview, is a huge red flag.

Yes absolutely.

 

[np08]

Yeah, the thing about this whole process is that the majority of relationships will have some red flags according to the IRCC that wouldn't actually be red flags in real life or that other couples never really have to address. But we do because we're obviously in a special situation here.

I remember reading one of those giant lists of 150+ questions they ask in relationship interviews and thinking how I don't really know the answer to at least a quarter of them. And it's definitely a genuine relationship. So when you have to go in for these, it's a good thing to prepare and cover some of these basics because they will ask you about them. There's no need to rehearse it all (because that in itself can be a red flag) and it's okay to just not know certain things, but there are some questions that are quite important for them and not knowing the answer is indeed a red flag.

Unfortunately, the system is the way it is because there have been and still are people who do pretend to love someone for years on end just so they could immigrate. We have seen cases here on this forum of brokenhearted Canadians and PRs coming here to update on their partners leaving them as soon as they landed, after being together for years and not suspecting anything. It does happen and it's the job of IRCC to try and weed these cases out. There's no doubt that in the process, some genuine couples will be denied, and some of those committing fraud will be let in, as no system is perfect unfortunately.

 

[Buletruck]

Yeah, well, I met my spouses parents once before we filed for her PR, and I knew there names, occupation, previous work history, birth dates,, siblings names, cousins names, issues with other family members, etc. My wife knew my employment history, siblings names, the date my wife dies, her name, the damned dogs name. And she/I lived on an island in a third world country. The point being, people in serious relationships generally make an effort to learn at least a little bit about their significant other.

 

[jomz]

To the OP I would advise you to continue your appeal instead of re-applying if in fact those were the only reasons for denial of the visa. Very likely you would be granted an ADR instead a full appeal hearing and wait times in ADRs are usually less than 1 year.

To those commenting that not knowing names of parents or the date of miscarriage is a huge red flag, I understand your opinion and understand that CIC visa officers can sometimes look at this as a red flag however in real life we all forget things. I never remembered the date of our big wedding, I only know the date of our engagement ceremony which is the religious part of marriage, the big wedding party was in August that’s all I knew. My husband didn’t know my parents names because he didn’t need to know , he always referred to them as dad and mom. I guess luckily he wasn’t asked their names in his interview. Just because someone doesn’t remember certain dates doesn’t mean they are not in a genuine relationship. My husband never remembers his sisters birthday, although he’s very close with them, I remind him each time to call them on their birthday. .

 

[np08]

To the OP I would advise you to continue your appeal instead of re-applying if in fact those were the only reasons for denial of the visa. Very likely you would be granted an ADR instead a full appeal hearing and wait times in ADRs are usually less than 1 year.

To those commenting that not knowing names of parents or the date of miscarriage is a huge red flag, I understand your opinion and understand that CIC visa officers can sometimes look at this as a red flag however in real life we all forget things. I never remembered the date of our big wedding, I only know the date of our engagement ceremony which is the religious part of marriage, the big wedding party was in August that’s all I knew. My husband didn’t know my parents names because he didn’t need to know , he always referred to them as dad and mom. I guess luckily he wasn’t asked their names in his interview. Just because someone doesn’t remember certain dates doesn’t mean they are not in a genuine relationship. My husband never remembers his sisters birthday, although he’s very close with them, I remind him each time to call them on their birthday. .

I don't think anyone is saying it's not a genuine relationship if one doesn't know the parents' names or anything like that. It's more like... If you know you have a relationship interview coming up and there's basic stuff that you don't know in terms of names, dates, events, favorite whatevers, make an effort now to go through all that stuff so that you know it when asked.

My wife doesn't know my dad's name. He died when I was a baby and I've maybe mentioned his actual name twice in all these years. She wouldn't be able to remember it if her life depended on it. But if we had an interview coming up, you bet she'd memorize it. That's all.

 

[fatima1990]

I completely understand your point of view. Just for a minute, try to put yourself in his shoes and try to understand him. He only ever heard me mention my dad’s name maybe once. I went through depression when my dad past away. He was my only family here in Canada. When I talk about my dad I cry. So my husband doesn’t bring it up. I used to take meds until I met my husband who helped me heal from this painful loss. I stopped taking meds. I’m better now. My husband spoke with my mom a lot on the phone and referred to her as mom. We never used names. I did his application and I didn’t have enough experience to guide and prepare him. I, we realize our mistakes. Unless you lived in an island, in the village, you wouldn’t understand this. People back home aren’t as good as us to remember little details like important dates such as the miscarriage. He can tell you the sequence of events but not the dates. Everyone is different. We can’t be judgemental and think that everyone should be like you. Some people have slow processing under pressure and have anxiety. He knew their first names but at that moment he had a mind block and couldn’t remember even the first name. He was so supportive and loving during the miscarriage so should I punish him if he can’t recall the date? Shouldn’t I appreciate his support and kindness more then the fact that he couldn’t remember the date? Normal people under pressure forgets things. He never experienced an interrogation type interview in his life. He didn’t attend secondary school, instead he worked to support his family. Life is not that easy for everyone. I was once married and my husband who is born Canadian raised here could never remember our anniversary date or birthdays, always needed reminder. It didn’t mean he was not genuine. Some men are not good with dates and names. The fact remains that he knew everything else about me. But it’s ok. Immigration thinks like you and we just have to be better prepared. I have a lawyer now. Money that I can’t afford but we have no choice. You’re right. We live in a world that is judgemental. If you and your wife can remember then the entire world should have same capabilities. We would live in a perfect bubble if all our minds operated the same.

I really understand you and agree with you. men are not good with dates. my husband is a Canadian and I'm the applicant. he forget dates too. but it doesn't means he doesn't love me. he is just bad with dates, but when it comes to tell about our memories he tell it like it happened yesterday. so that not nice to judge people with dates! that is so stupid really.

 

[vness]

Yes absolutely.

Babygirl - the things is, the officers will be going into the interview with an attitude of this marriage is not genuine, as there are SO SO SO many cases of men using foreign women from the DR. I can safely say this as I have been married to a Dominican man for 11+ years and have this in the country so many times, with so many people.....Sadly it was your and his job to convince the officer otherwise! It may not seem fair and they may not have right on your case - but in many many cases they did get it right!

I do sympathize with you and get that he didn't know dates and names - I have to leave my husband post it notes leading up to my birthday and we were almost denied my son's passport due to him not knowing his DOB.

I hope things work out for you.