How to ensure your child does not get Canadian citizenship?

[ajithpl]

This seems to be the hottest topic in the forum as it is now 8 pages of discussion in just 2 days!

 

[tracker_01]

The question for the hypothetical question: If Adam applies to work for Canadian Mission abroad, did he apply after getting his canadian citizenship certificate and canadian passport or using his US Citizenship paperwork like US passport?

Answer to your question: No he didn't apply for Canadian citizenship. He only used his US citizenship. He applied for Canadian citizenship after Emily was born. Also, let's assume that he could legally work for Canadian government in abroad mission since they require his specialized skill.

 

[steaky]

One issue I like to bring up is the eTA travel issue. As of September 30, all foreign nationals must apply for and hold valid electronic travel authorization (eTA). If OP managed to get Country X to give citizenship to child without knowing about Canadian citizenship, the child cannot travel to Canada as Canadians are not eligible to get eTA. This would mean the child has no choice but to use Canadian Passport to enter Canada. Country X is going to know that child has Canadian Citizenship the moment the child leaves Country X with Canadian Passport. Prior to eTA mandate, a dual citizen would be able to leave country with native passport and enter Canada with Canadian Passport. Now with eTA in place, the child won't be able to do this. Country X is going to know the child has another citizenship, the moment the child leaves and realized they have been duped by OP's actions.

But the child might be able to enter USA by Country X passport and then travel to Canada. This way, how would Country X going to know the child has Canadian citizenship?

 

[tracker_01]

But the child might be able to enter USA by Country X passport and then travel to Canada. This way, how would Country X going to know the child has Canadian citizenship?

This is going off topic. Let's stick to main question that pertains to the point in time when child becomes Canadian citizen. Is it at birth or when he claims citizenship. Country X is irrelevant to my original question. Thanks.

 

[steaky]

This is going off topic. Let's stick to main question that pertains to the point in time when child becomes Canadian citizen. Is it at birth or when he claims citizenship. Country X is irrelevant to my original question. Thanks.

The answer is: Since one of the parents is a Canadian citizen, the child will be Canadian by decent but must prove his identity before he can get Canadian citizenship certificate and passport.

If you want to pertain, then renounce your Canadian citizenship before child is born. Period.

 

[tracker_01]

The answer is: Since one of the parents is a Canadian citizen, the child will be Canadian by decent but must prove his identity before he can get Canadian citizenship certificate and passport.

If you want to pertain, then renounce your Canadian citizenship before child is born. Period.

OK, understood. I appreciate your opinion. Thanks.

 

[steaky]

OK, understood. I appreciate your opinion. Thanks.

Btw, couldn't your new-born child get a visa so that he can stay with you in Country X? Sorry to repeat that country / off topic again!

 

[tracker_01]

Btw, couldn't your child get a visa so that he can stay with you in Country X? Sorry to repeat that country / off topic again!

I will answer via private message because I would like this thread to concentrate on Canadian law aspect, rather than Country X aspect. Thanks.

 

[marcus66502]

This seems to be the hottest topic in the forum as it is now 8 pages of discussion in just 2 days!

I think what you're confusing for "discussion" is a few people entertaining themselves on a wildly bizarre scenario from someone with an active imagination. The irony is that OP's original scenario is so absurd it doesn't even rise to the level of decent entertainment. It's beneath laughing.

There is no discussion here. The answer that was sought for has been given, and pretty clearly -- not that it matters because the OP already had his mind made up and when he says that somebody is "off topic" that's code word for "I don't like what I'm hearing."

 

[canuck_in_uk]

Answer to your question: No he didn't apply for Canadian citizenship. He only used his US citizenship. He applied for Canadian citizenship after Emily was born. Also, let's assume that he could legally work for Canadian government in abroad mission since they require his specialized skill.

Correct answer: Adam didn't apply for citizenship because he was already a citizen. He merely applied for PROOF of citizenship.

 

[tracker_01]

Correct answer: Adam didn't apply for citizenship because he was already a citizen. He merely applied for PROOF of citizenship.

So, is it your opinion that Emily is Canadian citizen?

 

[canuck_in_uk]

So, it your opinion, that Emily is Canadian citizen?

Irrelevant. Nothing to do with your situation.

I honestly don't know why you are still posting. As you have been repeatedly told, your child will be Canadian. You can choose to believe it or not. Either way, you aren't going to get anything new from here.

 

[tracker_01]

Irrelevant. Nothing to do with your situation.

I honestly don't know why you are still posting. As you have been repeatedly told, your child will be Canadian. You can choose to believe it or not. Either way, you aren't going to get anything new from here.

It is relevant with my situation, because it determines at what point Adam became citizen which is what I am trying to establish with my situation.

 

[screech339]

Irrelevant. Nothing to do with your situation.

I honestly don't know why you are still posting. As you have been repeatedly told, your child will be Canadian. You can choose to believe it or not. Either way, you aren't going to get anything new from here.

It is not that OP doesn't believe his child will be Canadian. He doesn't want his child to have Canadian citizenship so child can get Country X citizenship for life. That is the motivating factor. OP wants to deceive Country X about child's Canadian citizenship so child can get Country X citizenship when it's law doesn't permit it.

 

[screech339]

It is relevant with my situation, because it determines at what point Adam became citizen which is what I am trying to establish with my situation.

Adam was canadian at birth. End of story. That is what we are all telling you.