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Hi Rupeshhari - Please advise

naughtyboy

Member
Sep 7, 2008
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Dear Rupeshhari,

In one of my earlier posts, you had replied to my question about whether I need to take up IELTs or not as follows.

We only know two people in the FSW category 1 pool that have had positive reply.
Both did not do IELTS and both send a
"letter" speaking about their proficiency in English.

I am very much interested in knowing about the "letter" you have mentioned in the above statement, because I too would like to send such a letter along with my application to Sidney NS. What do you suggest?

Could you please let me know whether you had included some explanatory information about yourself in that letter such as

a) Why you think you qualify for FSW 1 NOC number XYZ
b) Why you feel you do not need to take up IELTS
c) Other information about yourself

According to you, what other information would be best for me to mention in that letter so that I can enhance my application in some way.

Kindly let me know. I thank you for your time : )
 

BobbyB

Champion Member
Feb 10, 2009
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Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
Naughtbuoey: Hope this helps.
PROOF OF LANGUAGE PROFICIENCY

Refer to instructions in the "Proof of your language abilities" section of our
Web site. If you are claiming proficiency at any level in English and/or French,
submit one of the following:
• Test results from an approved language-testing organization: We strongly
recommend that you submit test results if you are claiming proficiency in a
language that is not your native language. If you choose to send the reports to us
directly, you must provide the original. Photocopies are unacceptable. Language
test results must not be older than one year upon submission.

or
Other evidence in writing:
• Your written submission detailing your training in, and use of, English and/or
French;
• Official documentation of education in English or French;
• Official documentation of work experience in English or French.
• Other applicable documentation.

Proof of language proficiency is required for your application to be
considered complete, otherwise it will be returned to you. If your native
language is English or French, you still need to provide a letter attesting to
this fact.



[size=10pt]Disclaimer:
I am not an Immigration officer nor a legal advisor.
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lenkact

Full Member
Feb 11, 2009
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Hello applicant,

I had been living in the US for fourteen years and i have had finished my degree all in English, but i had to do my IELTS, and i passed it all bands 7 and above, overall 7.5 here in India. I think what they looking is, because your not an Australian natural born person therefore regardless of your education background, it is a requirement to have it. and it is requirement for eligibility. then officer can easily evaluate your proficiency.I sugest you to do it now.
 

naughtyboy

Member
Sep 7, 2008
14
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Thanks for your help BobbyB and lenkact : )

I'll do as you have suggested.

Hi Rupeshhari,

I was able to locate one of your earlier posts wherein you have answered the question I have asked you in this post.

Many thanks : )
 

rupeshhari

VIP Member
Sep 15, 2008
3,686
255
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
naughtyboy said:
Dear Rupeshhari,

In one of my earlier posts, you had replied to my question about whether I need to take up IELTs or not as follows.

We only know two people in the FSW category 1 pool that have had positive reply.
Both did not do IELTS and both send a
"letter" speaking about their proficiency in English.

I am very much interested in knowing about the "letter" you have mentioned in the above statement, because I too would like to send such a letter along with my application to Sidney NS. What do you suggest?

Could you please let me know whether you had included some explanatory information about yourself in that letter such as

a) Why you think you qualify for FSW 1 NOC number XYZ
b) Why you feel you do not need to take up IELTS
c) Other information about yourself

According to you, what other information would be best for me to mention in that letter so that I can enhance my application in some way.



Well, more than two people have replies back from Sydney now. For Sydney, I only wrote about why my English was proficient but I really don't think they even look at it. So whether you write the letter or not, if your ministerial instruction requirements are fulfilled, Sydney will okay you (thats what I believe anyway).
 

helpmeimmigrate

Star Member
Feb 16, 2009
71
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Hi Guys,

Sydney will not look at your documents. The job of Syfney is only to see if you are under the list and if yes, and you make enough points they will forward the application to visa post.

The respective visa post concerned for processing your application will look at your documents and at that time you will be asked to submit IELTS no mattet what, unless ofcourse you were born and raised in Canada.

So just writing a proof of english may not help. Anyways I am posting a format for your help. This is only a template, you may fill it out with more relevant information.

Sender NAme
Sender Address

Date

To:

Canadian High Commission
Immigration Section
7/8 Shantipath
Chanakyapuri, New Delhi
India


TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN:


I, *of the above address, hereby affirm that I studied in a * school with English as a mandatory subject. After completing Senior Secondary Education I joined * University and completed * degree. Later I joined *.

I can speak, read, listen, and write * English only.

Please accept this statement as proof of my English proficiency.

Yours sincerely,


Sender' Signature


This is not legal advise.

Take Care
 

rupeshhari

VIP Member
Sep 15, 2008
3,686
255
Category........
Visa Office......
Buffalo
NOC Code......
4131
Job Offer........
Pre-Assessed..
App. Filed.......
Dec 2008 to CIO
Doc's Request.
Jan 2009
AOR Received.
Feb 2009 from VO
IELTS Request
Didn't do IELTS.
File Transfer...
Not transfered to regional office.
Med's Request
July 2010 with RPRF and another PCC.
Med's Done....
Meds - September 2010. PCC - Late Oct 2010
Interview........
Waived
Passport Req..
Early November 2010
VISA ISSUED...
December 2010 - Exactly days shy of 2 years since I sent in my application to CIO.
LANDED..........
2011
for the visa office stage, the letter has to be quite detailed why you believe you can get the points. At least thats what i think.
for buffalo, i gave my history with english and then proof of proficiency for each section.
 

helpmeimmigrate

Star Member
Feb 16, 2009
71
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tHE VISA POST WILL NOT ACCEPT THE LETTERS ANYMORE, YOU WILL NEED IELTS TO PROVE YOUR PROFFICIENCY. IT IS VERY RARE THEY ACCEPT LETTERS NOW. BUT IF YOU STILL WOULD LIKE TO TAKE CHANCE READ BELOW. THIS MAY HELP YOU.ONE THING IS FOR SURE, IF YOU PROVIDE LETTER AND NOT RESULTS YOU WILL HARDLY BE ABLE TO GET FULL 16 POINTS AND IF YOU NEED 16 TO PASS THE 67 POINT MARK, GO FOR IELTS AND PROVE IT FOR THEM. WE PROVIDE LETTERS FOR OUR CLIENTS BUT THEY STILL COME BACK AND ASK FOR IELTS BECAUSE THE CLIENTS EDUCATION AND HOME COUNTRY MAY NOT SATISFY THEM FULLY OF YOUR USE OF LANGUAGE.
"
We strongly recommend that you take an official language test if you are claiming skills in a language that is not your native language.

If you choose not to take an approved language test, you must prove your ability to speak, listen, read and write Canada’s official languages through other written evidence. You must provide written proof and an explanation that clearly shows you meet the benchmark criteria listed in the Canadian Language Benchmarks in each of the four skills.

NOTE
Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) officers will not conduct an interview to assess your language skills. CIC will only use test results from organizations approved by CIC in assigning language points.

You must:

Indicate what level of language proficiency you are claiming for each skill (speaking, listening, reading and writing).
Submit, with your application for immigration, a written explanation and supporting documentation as proof of the levels you have indicated.

This material should include:
a written submission explaining your training in English or French;
an explanation of how you commonly use English or French;
official documentation of education in English or French; and
official documentation of work experience in English or French.


What happens next

A CIC officer will review the evidence you include with your application.

Your submission must satisfy the officer that your language skills meet the benchmarks for the levels you are claiming.
The officer will award points for your language ability based on what you send with your application.
You will not know in advance how many points the CIC officer will give you for your language skills. "

GOOD LUCK
 

naughtyboy

Member
Sep 7, 2008
14
0
Dear Rupeshhari and helpmeimmigrate

To be on the safe side, I guess I had better take up IELTS : )

Very kind of you to reply back as usual. Thank You !