Having a baby before applying for PR

[LauraLynnR]

Hi everybody, I'm here to ask something easy just because I'm curious and partly because I might find myself in this situation and I don't wanna put my position at risk.
I'm almost 21 years old and I live in Canada (still as a visitor unfortunately) since September 4th 2013. I come from Italy and the only reason I'm here is to live with my boyfriend who I had a long distance relationship with for the entire 2012 and now we are engaged since October 2013.
I applied for a tourist extension on January 2014 so I could stay longer and next month I have to apply again so we can finally reach the "Year requirement" to have lived together as a common-law couple, so then finally we can apply for my Permanent Residence.
The thing is we are planning to get married next year, but most of all we both want to have a kid as soon as possible, so my question is: what happens if I get pregnant now that I'm still a tourist or during the process of my Permanent Residence?
Just so you know: Italy is a visa-exempt country, my boyfriend is a canadian citizen, he has a job, we both signed the lease for our apartment so our life is stable, we are living like we are married so the only problem is that we are not considered common-law partners yet from a legal standpoint and I don't wanna risk to be refused when I apply for Permanent Residence just because I got pregnant.
Some people bothered us with:"If you have a baby or you get her pregnant before she can stay here, the government will send her back, she won't be able to come to Canada anymore, they will refuse her PR request and she won't be able to see the baby anymore..."ecc. cause actually, 5 months ago I really thought I was pregnant!
Are they just trying to scare us, or what they say is actually true?
Thanks in advance for your help.
Laura

 

[rhcohen2014]

none of what others are telling you are true! before you believe what others say, ask yourself, "how would they know?" "what experience do they have with sponsoring a spouse?" "do they work for CIC and process applications?"

If you are expecting to give birth during the application process, then you will need to notify CIC of the change to your family. I am not sure how it works if the child is born in canada, and is technically a canadian citizen. CIC definitely needs to know about the baby, so that you guys are not found to be misrepresenting yourselves. You can even write a letter in your application letting them know you are pregnant, when you are due, and plan to update your application as soon as the baby is born. Many people go through this, so hopefully someone with more experience can give you more details about it.

Also, if you are getting married, i am wondering why you are bothering with the common-law application. From what I've read, applying for spousal sponsorship is easier and requires less leg work for the application.

 

[Rob_TO]

Your baby once born will be a Canadian citizen already, and will have no effect on your common-law or spousal application. You just update your basic family info once baby is born, and that's it. Anyone who said CIC would refuse you or send you home based on having a baby or being pregnant, is completely 100% wrong.

Just keep in mind the costs if you were to get pregnant and aren't yet covered for provincial healthcare.

 

[Ponga]

Having a baby prior to submitting a sponsorship application would also mean that your PR would NOT have the `Condition 51', as you would have a child in common with your sponsor.

 

[canuck_in_uk]

As Rob_TO said, what you really need to think about is the costs of having a baby without any provincial heathcare. From your previous posts, you're in Quebec; you will not get provincial coverage, regardless of your pregnancy or relationship with a Canadian. There is a possibility of getting low-cost care through a midwife or women's clinic but if you have any complications that require hospitalization, you will end up paying thousands of dollars.

You are 4 months away from being common-law, so at least a year away from becoming a PR and getting healthcare. You should seriously consider waiting until you will have healthcare.

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[LauraLynnR]

As Rob_TO said, what you really need to think about is the costs of having a baby without any provincial heathcare. From your previous posts, you're in Quebec; you will not get provincial coverage, regardless of your pregnancy or relationship with a Canadian. There is a possibility of getting low-cost care through a midwife or women's clinic but if you have any complications that require hospitalization, you will end up paying thousands of dollars.

You are 4 months away from being common-law, so at least a year away from becoming a PR and getting healthcare. You should seriously consider waiting until you will have healthcare.

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What if I get something like "Blue Cross"? It's a health insurance coverage that do you think would cover the cost? It's about 75$ a month and they offer hospitalization coverage.

 

[rhcohen2014]

What if I get something like "Blue Cross"? It's a health insurance coverage that do you think would cover the cost? It's about 75$ a month and they offer hospitalization coverage.

do they cover delivery and tests needed throughout pregnacy? that is substantially different from "hospitalization". To me, hospitalization suggests if you get hurt or sick, and you need to go to the emergency room. definitely check the small print to be sure...

 

[LauraLynnR]

Having a baby prior to submitting a sponsorship application would also mean that your PR would NOT have the `Condition 51', as you would have a child in common with your sponsor.

What is "Condition 51"? I have already heard of it but I forgot what is about

 

[screech339]

You can get medical coverage for your baby if you get medical insurance prior to getting pregnant. Most medical insurance won't cover any baby delivery in the first 9 months of buying insurance.

If you submit your application before the baby is born, you will get 2 year conditional PR. If you wait until you have baby first then submit PR application, then you won't have conditional PR.

Screech339

 

[screech339]

What is "Condition 51"? I have already heard of it but I forgot what is about

Conditional 51 is a 2 year conditional PR.

 

[LauraLynnR]

Conditional 51 is a 2 year conditional PR.

Yeah is true! The say that you have to live with your sponsor for at least 2 years after you get your PR

 

[LauraLynnR]

do they cover delivery and tests needed throughout pregnacy? that is substantially different from "hospitalization". To me, hospitalization suggests if you get hurt or sick, and you need to go to the emergency room. definitely check the small print to be sure...

We don't know yet, we gotta call first... in some places they offer it, but I don't know about Quebec

 

[scylla]

We don't know yet, we gotta call first... in some places they offer it, but I don't know about Quebec

Blue Cross won't cover costs associated with pregnancy or delivery. It's classified as a pre-existing condition.

 

[LauraLynnR]

Blue Cross won't cover costs associated with pregnancy or delivery. It's classified as a pre-existing condition.

So if I get it before getting pregnant they will cover the costs?

 

[mikeymyke]

No because its a pre-existing condition. Why don't you just use a midwife/doula? They're virtually free.