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DDG said:
That's what I think too sandy... I could have just as easily married an asshole from Canada, spent 30 grand on a wedding, and been screwed over just the same. The way I see it, if I am screwed over, at least the wedding was only a couple grand, and I've spent the rest enjoying Cuba!! I also made my husband sign a legal prenup!! I wasn't taking chances and although he was initially upset about it, he finally understood it came not from a lack of trust in him being Cuban, but my lack of trust in men period.
I guess this legal prenup is because you own a home right? Tell me more about that? I am thinking money i have in the bank is mine since it is my account however it must be different with property right?
 
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DDG said:
Hi Ladies!! Just got home from work... thanks Avana and Shuster and KJG, I don't know what I'd do without you.

I sometimes have to stay away from the discussions....it scares me too. But we need to remember that we all have a different story and sometimes when they 'sound' the same, they are not. There is alot more to a story than we know...

I agree with bad spouses and bad sponsors...

I met a Cuban living on the streets in Wolfville, NS, three years ago who's sponsor gave her 5 grand and kicked her out. Bc her sponsor gave her that money, she could not get welfare. I set her up with a job and a place to stay through a friend, and she's living in her own apartment now but desperatly wants to go home. She sold her house to come to Canada, and the government will not give her a place to live.

As for the bad spouse, I had one. Married a Cuban who clearly married me to get in the country. Finally one of his friends told me and took me to meet his girlfriend and children. I was married to him a year before I knew, had been there 6 times. Looking back I can see it clear as day now. But I was blinded by love then...lol I've since learned he's married to someone from Quebec and I worry when I hear someone say thier husand is from Holguin...but I guess his new wife would have to know he was married to a Canadian before because he would have to submit his divorce certificate, as did I.

I never intended on ever going back to Cuba and family forced me. Then viola, I did it again!! haha... must have a thing for Cuban men !!
DDG your so brave for doing it again.....I have had many conversations with hubby and bascially told him you do anything to me in regards to betraying me for my country. I will make it happen that you are shipped back to Cuba. I swear. He has always said just trust me and I have for 4 years. However it crosses my mind this could go bad or good just like anyother relationship however this one I really gave it all my all.
 

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By no means am I saying that any of our husbands are bad or will do bad to us....

However many Cubans choose Canada because of our lax immigration laws and immediate permanent residency.
Also the fact that Canada will not deport to Cuba, because once a Cuban is out of Cuba, Cuba always fails to provided the proper travel documents to accept deportees.
There is talk of this changing but as much as Canada tries to deport people to certain countries, unless the country accepts to accept them back, there is nothing Canada can do.

That is why Canada's system has been abused by so many people for so many years.
 
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shuster2210 said:
By no means am I saying that any of our husbands are bad or will do bad to us....

However many Cubans choose Canada because of our lax immigration laws and immediate permanent residency.
Also the fact that Canada will not deport to Cuba, because once a Cuban is out of Cuba, Cuba always fails to provided the proper travel documents to accept deportees.
There is talk of this changing but as much as Canada tries to deport people to certain countries, unless the country accepts to accept them back, there is nothing Canada can do.

That is why Canada's system has been abused by so many people for so many years.


well said. I love my husband but I always keep my mind open to the fact that this could turn to the worst if ever did. I think you can only really see when they arrive. Actions speak louder than words.....
 

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shuster2210 said:
Happy Sunday everyone.
This week will bring great things one way or another for all of us.

About "other" chat groups....

I have been traveling to Cuba for 12 years and have seen my share of horrible Cuban spouses, but I have seen so many more terrible sponsors. It goes both ways, but the way that some Canadians have treated their spouses is disgusting.
So take it all with a grain of salt.
Many people marry someone from another culture without knowing anything about that culture etc.
it's hard enough to make a marriage work when 3 people grow up in the same country, let alone 2 different ones.
I too have been going to Cuba for 11 years, and have seen the negativity go both ways... It's true that there are a number of people wanting to get out of Cuba and willing to do anything to do it. But I would not say this is true about most Cubans. They're proud people, and you have bad apples everywhere, including right here. Having said that, wayyy before I met my husband I have had Cubans come after me and I could tell it wasn't genuine. Including one who fell on his knees crying that he wanted to spend the rest of his life with me after I had only met him for a week, and nothing had even happened between us. When I met my husband, although we had intense chemistry from the beginning, I told him I had no intentions of EVER being in a long distance relationship and this would NEVER turn into anything more (obviously, never say never.... lol) I could tell he was different. He was very well respected by others and not known to be a chaser. I even found out pretty early on (from mutual friends) that an Italian older woman had asked him to marry her and for her to bring her back to Italy with her... he denied. He'd never been married nor had children and although he had dated one Canadian girl for 3 months, she turned out to be controlling and manipulative (and a little crazy) and he ended that relationship. It took a looong time for me to trust him, since before I met him I lived with a boyfriend for 3 years, someone who I had known for 10 years, and HE turned out to be cheating on me and manipulating and lying to say that our relationship was dead and he was sleeping on the couch looking for a new place to live (ya, right). After being hurt, I was not prepared to trust anyone, especially not someone who lived a zillion miles away... but I have to say that I now trust my husband implicitly. I fell victim to the sad Cuban/Canadian stories too early on, before agreeing to be committed to him and it led me to be paranoid and check everything, even having spies.. haha, it later came up in conversation and he said "So thaaaaats why xxxxx showed up at my house at 7am!" lol It's not easy, and the distance makes it scarier, but you have to trust your gut feeling. I trust mine, and I trust my parents' and friends' too, and I know that all the right intentions are there. Be strong everyone, and remember, most people who write on blogs and groups (excluding this thread of course) are the ones who HAVE been hurt. There is not enough people who are living happy fulfilling lives with Cuban wives/husbands who have the time to sit and write on the internet about it, so it's the ones who have been hurt that do! (except for us but thats cuz all were doing is waitiinnngggg.... lol) I guess what also helps is that I know so many Cuban/Canadian couples that are perfectly happy and living a normal life, for 5, 10 years... so there is definitely a possibility for happiness! :D and we all deserve it!

wooooh, that was a rant... haha
 

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by the way, speaking of this, has anyone seen this thread? :mad:

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/im-under-sponsorship-and-want-to-file-for-my-new-wifebaby-mother-t123553.0.html

I've refrained from answering because i dont think I can keep my cool... lol
 
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Avana said:
I too have been going to Cuba for 11 years, and have seen the negativity go both ways... It's true that there are a number of people wanting to get out of Cuba and willing to do anything to do it. But I would not say this is true about most Cubans. They're proud people, and you have bad apples everywhere, including right here. Having said that, wayyy before I met my husband I have had Cubans come after me and I could tell it wasn't genuine. Including one who fell on his knees crying that he wanted to spend the rest of his life with me after I had only met him for a week, and nothing had even happened between us. When I met my husband, although we had intense chemistry from the beginning, I told him I had no intentions of EVER being in a long distance relationship and this would NEVER turn into anything more (obviously, never say never.... lol) I could tell he was different. He was very well respected by others and not known to be a chaser. I even found out pretty early on (from mutual friends) that an Italian older woman had asked him to marry her and for her to bring her back to Italy with her... he denied. He'd never been married nor had children and although he had dated one Canadian girl for 3 months, she turned out to be controlling and manipulative (and a little crazy) and he ended that relationship. It took a looong time for me to trust him, since before I met him I lived with a boyfriend for 3 years, someone who I had known for 10 years, and HE turned out to be cheating on me and manipulating and lying to say that our relationship was dead and he was sleeping on the couch looking for a new place to live (ya, right). After being hurt, I was not prepared to trust anyone, especially not someone who lived a zillion miles away... but I have to say that I now trust my husband implicitly. I fell victim to the sad Cuban/Canadian stories too early on, before agreeing to be committed to him and it led me to be paranoid and check everything, even having spies.. haha, it later came up in conversation and he said "So thaaaaats why xxxxx showed up at my house at 7am!" lol It's not easy, and the distance makes it scarier, but you have to trust your gut feeling. I trust mine, and I trust my parents' and friends' too, and I know that all the right intentions are there. Be strong everyone, and remember, most people who write on blogs and groups (excluding this thread of course) are the ones who HAVE been hurt. There is not enough people who are living happy fulfilling lives with Cuban wives/husbands who have the time to sit and write on the internet about it, so it's the ones who have been hurt that do! (except for us but thats cuz all were doing is waitiinnngggg.... lol) I guess what also helps is that I know so many Cuban/Canadian couples that are perfectly happy and living a normal life, for 5, 10 years... so there is definitely a possibility for happiness! :D and we all deserve it!

wooooh, that was a rant... haha

Amen to that!!!! :)
 
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Avana said:
by the way, speaking of this, has anyone seen this thread? :mad:

http://www.canadavisa.com/canada-immigration-discussion-board/im-under-sponsorship-and-want-to-file-for-my-new-wifebaby-mother-t123553.0.html

I've refrained from answering because i dont think I can keep my cool... lol
what a loser!
 

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ppsandy79 said:
I guess this legal prenup is because you own a home right? Tell me more about that? I am thinking money i have in the bank is mine since it is my account however it must be different with property right?
We just did something up with a lawyer (same one who did the custody documents of his daughter) Had it signed and authenticated by Minister then translated and filed with a lawyer here (the same one who did my immigration papers). We married after 4 months and I was nervous bc of my past experience however I wouldn't do it now. We've been together almost 2 years, and I have lived with him for months. I trust him completely...long distance relationships changes the game lol I'd never do it again!! haha So he better not leave me because I'll never date a Canadian man again either. I've told him I would move to Cuba and he would be supporting me with Alimony ... it's just a joke now.... I love him so much and I have no doubt he feels the same, but there are days I ask myself...WTF am I doing?? Is this for real? Am I going to get hurt? Is he using me? But then I remember I ask myself those things in ALL my relationships...this one just happens to be a little more complicated ;) but at least I'm being treated better than I ever have been, and I am learning strengths, not insecurities!!
 

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ppsandy79 said:
what a loser!
With a CAPITAL "L" it's men like him that make it so hard for everyone else.
 

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DDG said:
That's what I think too sandy... I could have just as easily married an asshole from Canada, spent 30 grand on a wedding, and been screwed over just the same. The way I see it, if I am screwed over, at least the wedding was only a couple grand, and I've spent the rest enjoying Cuba!! I also made my husband sign a legal prenup!! I wasn't taking chances and although he was initially upset about it, he finally understood it came not from a lack of trust in him being Cuban, but my lack of trust in men period.
I did marry an asshole from Canada......and DDG you are right they are everywhere.....I did the same thing...had my husband sign a prenup!!! I was royally screwed by my last husband and was not taking a chance again.....took a while for him to understand but he signed it.
 

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Wow ladies.....some great thoughts and experiences happening here. This is amazing. As different as we all probably are there is a part of us that is the same....sharing this experience. I have to tell you when my best friend married a cuban I told her she was nuts and crazy and she should wait...etc. They have been together over 4 years now!! I have been to Cuba so many times and had the declarations of love from the gardners, bartenders...etc. LOL.....makes you feel good but you know it's not real....but then I met Yoani through my best friends husband. And the chemistry was amazing......I don't think I have ever experienced such instantaneous attraction...and yes I was sober!!! And the rest is history.......Avana....your story is fairly parallel to mine.....!!!
 
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KJG said:
I did marry an asshole from Canada......and DDG you are right they are everywhere.....I did the same thing...had my husband sign a prenup!!! I was royally screwed by my last husband and was not taking a chance again.....took a while for him to understand but he signed it.
This prenup is needed when there are assets involved such as house and children correct?
 

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KJG and DDG

What was your lawyers opinions on the PRE-nups?

A friend of mine had a "PRE-nup" drawn up for him and his Cuban wife.
She left him, took him to court for 1/2 the house, pension and rrsp's.
she won. The judge said that because he was still under the undertaking to sponsorship that a prenup was null and void.
This is a couple years now, but he did have to give her 1/2 of everything, except the amount he paid toward the house before their cohabitation.
 

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ppsandy79 said:
This prenup is needed when there are assets involved such as house and children correct?
It's not needed with children per sae but if you own a home and have a lot of equity in it.....it is a good idea to have a prenup to ensure you keep your share of the equity before it becomes a matrimonial home and therefore matrimonial property. Also if you have RRSP's; a good pension plan anything like that. My reason is that I own my home jointly with my parents...so I wanted to protect their money and then to make double sure I changed the title to my house last year to me owing 1% of it and gave the other 99% to my parents. We have a written side agreement in case anything happens to me that my actual share will go to my children. Like I said earlier, was burned badly by the ex so as much as I love Yoani.....we will share equally anything we obtain once he gets here and we do it together. Did I mention I was a Law Clerk :p