H&C Humanitarian Ground with/or Without Failed refugee claim

[need-aip]

What effect will Bill C12 have on H&C applications?

Bill status
Bill C-12 was introduced in October 2025 and requires further review and debate in Parliament before it can become law. Public and expert opposition continues to call for the bill to be withdrawn or amended to remove the problematic immigration provisions.

 

[Buletruck]

Bill status
Bill C-12 was introduced in October 2025 and requires further review and debate in Parliament before it can become law. Public and expert opposition continues to call for the bill to be withdrawn or amended to remove the problematic immigration provisions.

I doubt we will see much movement on C-12 until after the fall budget release. I imagine the liberals are pulling up the stakes (and negotiating tactics) to ensure there isn't a no. Confidence vote on the budget. Might mean some fancy negotiating (and revising C-12 might be a carrot) to prop up opposition support for the budget.

 

[Buletruck]

I must be psychic ( or psychotic...hard to tell these days)!

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/liberal-budget-support-vote-9.6947268

 

[Victoria-20241]

This government is blaming immigrants for the mistakes they're making, one after the other. More than 9 immigration ministers have already passed. Inflation has risen to 2.4%, food, housing, etc. They want to say that 50,000 immigrants on the waiting list for humanitarian and compassionate programs are the reason. This is pathetic. Students, workers, and immigrants drive the economy in this country. In short, I believe this government won't last even a year.

 

[Buletruck]

This government is blaming immigrants for the mistakes they're making, one after the other. More than 9 immigration ministers have already passed. Inflation has risen to 2.4%, food, housing, etc. They want to say that 50,000 immigrants on the waiting list for humanitarian and compassionate programs are the reason. This is pathetic. Students, workers, and immigrants drive the economy in this country. In short, I believe this government won't last even a year.

So, 50,000 people waiting for H&C aren't inmigrant. They are ineligible applicant/ failed refugee claimant/ visitors hoping for an exemption from an immigration system has already determined ineligible. The options for any government (and believe me, a conservative government would be looking at much harsher options) are limited and the voting public (you know, the only ones that really matter to political parties) are demanding government action to revise immigration numbers down. The public's tolerance to programs like H&C, rejected refugee claims or parents deciding Canada is a better choice to live than visit is at its limit (7 in 10 want something done) and they're the ones the government needs to appease. You might feel it's pathetic, but that's the reality. Any government will have to do something, sooner than later, and show they are taking the electorates demands seriously.

 

[Ruffian2000]

IRCC will have authority to close H&C programs.

If Bill C12 were to be passed, what date do you think it will get finalized? (become part of the law)

 

[Buletruck]

If Bill C12 were to be passed, what date do you think it will get finalized? (become part of the law)

It would become effect on final reading in the House of Commons. Who knows when that will happen.

 

[Victoria-20241]

So, 50,000 people waiting for H&C aren't inmigrant. They are ineligible applicant/ failed refugee claimant/ visitors hoping for an exemption from an immigration system has already determined ineligible. The options for any government (and believe me, a conservative government would be looking at much harsher options) are limited and the voting public (you know, the only ones that really matter to political parties) are demanding government action to revise immigration numbers down. The public's tolerance to programs like H&C, rejected refugee claims or parents deciding Canada is a better choice to live than visit is at its limit (7 in 10 want something done) and they're the ones the government needs to appease. You might feel it's pathetic, but that's the reality. Any government will have to do something, sooner than later, and show they are taking the electorates demands seriously.

Unfortunately, you're right. Politicians only care about votes and staying in power, regardless of justice or compassion. Canadian immigrants now want to close the door to other immigrants after having entered many times through the back door. However, Canada has a maintenance debt. The fewer people to share the debt, the more taxes will be collected. I support immigration for people who want to contribute to Canada's growth. The government should invest in intelligence and security to triage these processes. However, I oppose closing the program.

 

[Buletruck]

Unfortunately, you're right. Politicians only care about votes and staying in power, regardless of justice or compassion. Canadian immigrants now want to close the door to other immigrants after having entered many times through the back door. However, Canada has a maintenance debt. The fewer people to share the debt, the more taxes will be collected. I support immigration for people who want to contribute to Canada's growth. The government should invest in intelligence and security to triage these processes. However, I oppose closing the program.

I don't disagree. Those already in process should have applications vetted for security, criminality and medical and a decision made based on that. Others have argued that it doesn't provide the correct skill sets needed, but the option is there to train and educate these people to gain those skills. Otherwise, things like H&C need to be shut down and prevent further abuse.

 

[Viking007]

Regardless of whether they pass the bill or not. We can ALL agree there needs to be a change somehow. It makes no sense for a PR application to have a wait period of over 5-50yrs. It’s insane.

 

[Ruffian2000]

Just appeared this morning essentially saying exactly what I have been saying.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/otta...ilies-but-ircc-says-it-s-no-mistake-9.6939919

What caused this sudden surge in expected wait time?

 

[mr.niceGuy10]

Guys, I got my AIP in July 24, nothing since then, at the time my lawyer recommended me to not apply for OWP, because the PR and OWP had the same process time.
One year and change after...here I'm stuck, no PR or OWP, my question is....

Not having a status...if I get the temporary OWP.. would I qualify for the children benefit (CBB)?

 

[need-aip]

Guys, I got my AIP in July 24, nothing since then, at the time my lawyer recommended me to not apply for OWP, because the PR and OWP had the same process time.
One year and change after...here I'm stuck, no PR or OWP, my question is....

Not having a status...if I get the temporary OWP.. would I qualify for the children benefit (CBB)?

No
They don't have same process time.
OWP is 7 months.
To be eligible for the Canada Child Benefit (CCB)
You must be permanent resident, or eligible temporary resident.

 

[mr.niceGuy10]

No
They don't have same process time.
OWP is 7 months.
To be eligible for the Canada Child Benefit (CCB)
You must be permanent resident, or eligible temporary resident.

With AIP, am I an eligible temporary resident?

 

[canuck78]

With AIP, am I an eligible temporary resident?

No AIP in itself does not give you status. You should apply for a WP unless you already had a valid WP not sure why your lawyer would have told you not to.