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H&C Humanitarian Ground with/or Without Failed refugee claim

Neel_Mistry

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Jul 4, 2013
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Hi All, Can anyone please send me a copy of his/her AIP on techyguy407@gmail.com? Of course, you can black out all personal info. The reason why I am asking is that I went to Service Ontario to ask if i can get ohip with AIP. She said she needs to look at the letter to say if I get OHIP with that or not. I don't yet have AIP but I want to sort this OHIP thing ahead of time so that there will be no delay in getting healthcare later on. There is a critical illness which needs treatment asap. please help. many thanks..
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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I appreciate your contribution and I think we have moved beyond the discussion of putting H&C on hold for JR. I do not believe your assertion on that issue as I have made my findings and taken my decision so, I want answer on questions that I have raised if you have any contribution, it is welcome and will be appreciated.
Will be curious to see what happens. Based on multiple reports on this forum this year H&Cs are put on hold while JRs are processed. Whether you choose to believe me is your personal choice.
 

canuck78

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Jun 18, 2017
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Hi All, Can anyone please send me a copy of his/her AIP on techyguy407@gmail.com? Of course, you can black out all personal info. The reason why I am asking is that I went to Service Ontario to ask if i can get ohip with AIP. She said she needs to look at the letter to say if I get OHIP with that or not. I don't yet have AIP but I want to sort this OHIP thing ahead of time so that there will be no delay in getting healthcare later on. There is a critical illness which needs treatment asap. please help. many thanks..
It looks like you only recently applied for H&C. It could be many months until your parents know whether they get approved AIP or get refused so you need to make alternate plans if they need to access healthcare. How long have they been in Canada? Is this a new medical issue?
 

Swagzzy

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Will be curious to see what happens. Based on multiple reports on this forum this year H&Cs are put on hold while JRs are processed. Whether you choose to believe me is your personal choice.
You are very correct. The onus of choice lies solely on me. I am lettered enough to juxtapose and take a decision. Nonetheless, I will not only update you as event unfolds but will update this forum at large.
Again, thanks for your continued input.
 

Bornlucky

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Hi All, Can anyone please send me a copy of his/her AIP on techyguy407@gmail.com? Of course, you can black out all personal info. The reason why I am asking is that I went to Service Ontario to ask if i can get ohip with AIP. She said she needs to look at the letter to say if I get OHIP with that or not. I don't yet have AIP but I want to sort this OHIP thing ahead of time so that there will be no delay in getting healthcare later on. There is a critical illness which needs treatment asap. please help. many thanks..
Hi - how does getting a copy of an AIP letter issued to another person help you get ahead of the need to have an authentic letter to present for OHIP coverage?
 

Neel_Mistry

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Jul 4, 2013
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Hi - how does getting a copy of an AIP letter issued to another person help you get ahead of the need to have an authentic letter to present for OHIP coverage?
It helps because the lady there was confused if they can issue ohip on that letter. She said she will show that letter to manager and after reading that word by word they will let me know if ohip can be issued. They said they might have to get an approval from ohip review committee. It might take several weeks to months to get their approval at that time. If I show them what kind of letter would that be then at least they can confirm ahead of the time that they can accept that.

they are going out of way to help me because they know my situation. I already told them that I will be showing an example of letter (not of my case). They said okay to that.

i would appreciate of you/someone can help. Thanks in advance
 

Neel_Mistry

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Jul 4, 2013
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It looks like you only recently applied for H&C. It could be many months until your parents know whether they get approved AIP or get refused so you need to make alternate plans if they need to access healthcare. How long have they been in Canada? Is this a new medical issue?
Hi, thanks for valuable suggestion. Yes, i am doing all in my control to work with this situation. I know it can be many months but just in case(you never know) i want to get ohip thing sorted so i dont have to wait even a single day. They have been in canada from 5 months. This is not a new issue. We discovered the condition couple of years back.
 

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It helps because the lady there was confused if they can issue ohip on that letter. She said she will show that letter to manager and after reading that word by word they will let me know if ohip can be issued. They said they might have to get an approval from ohip review committee. It might take several weeks to months to get their approval at that time. If I show them what kind of letter would that be then at least they can confirm ahead of the time that they can accept that.

they are going out of way to help me because they know my situation. I already told them that I will be showing an example of letter (not of my case). They said okay to that.

i would appreciate of you/someone can help. Thanks in advance
It appears that you fell onto an inexperienced member of staff. Perhaps if you visit the office again, you will meet someone more seasoned who can give you a definite response.

anyway, here is the front portion of the letter you can show:


This refers to your application for permanent residence from within Canada on humanitarian and
compassionate grounds.
Humanitarian and compassionate factors are assessed for the purpose of determining whether to grant an exemption from certain legislative requirements to allow your application for permanent residence to be processed from within Canada. On 18 May 2021, a representative of the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) reviewed your request and considered all the factors that you cited in your application. We are pleased to inform you that your request for an exemption from these requirements for the purpose of processing this application has been approved.

In addition, you have been granted an exemption from the following requirement of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act:

(blacked out)

You must meet all other requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and its Regulations, such as medical, security, passport and arrangements for your care and support. As your application is processed, separate decisions will be made about whether you meet these other requirements.
 
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Bornlucky

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It helps because the lady there was confused if they can issue ohip on that letter. She said she will show that letter to manager and after reading that word by word they will let me know if ohip can be issued. They said they might have to get an approval from ohip review committee. It might take several weeks to months to get their approval at that time. If I show them what kind of letter would that be then at least they can confirm ahead of the time that they can accept that.

they are going out of way to help me because they know my situation. I already told them that I will be showing an example of letter (not of my case). They said okay to that.

i would appreciate of you/someone can help. Thanks in advance
Hi again,

I guess you could also point it out on the OHIP website: https://www.ontario.ca/page/documents-needed-get-health-card#section-0

For applicants for permanent residence

  • Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) letter (IRCC used to be called Citizenship and Immigration Canada, or CIC). The letter must:
    • be on IRCC letterhead, addressed to you as applicant
    • state IRCC has confirmed you meet the eligibility requirements to apply for permanent residence in Canada and you have not yet been denied.
I don't think a review committee will need to be convened, so you're good to go if AIP is granted.
 
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Neel_Mistry

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Jul 4, 2013
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Hi again,

I guess you could also point it out on the OHIP website: https://www.ontario.ca/page/documents-needed-get-health-card#section-0

For applicants for permanent residence

  • Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) letter (IRCC used to be called Citizenship and Immigration Canada, or CIC). The letter must:
    • be on IRCC letterhead, addressed to you as applicant
    • state IRCC has confirmed you meet the eligibility requirements to apply for permanent residence in Canada and you have not yet been denied.
I don't think a review committee will need to be convened, so you're good to go if AIP is granted.
I did point that out. They kept asking me for an example letter because she said they get people coming in with many types of letters. They need to confirm word by word.
 

Neel_Mistry

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Jul 4, 2013
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It appears that you fell onto an inexperienced member of staff. Perhaps if you visit the office again, you will meet someone more seasoned who can give you a definite response.

anyway, here is the front portion of the letter you can show:


This refers to your application for permanent residence from within Canada on humanitarian and
compassionate grounds.
Humanitarian and compassionate factors are assessed for the purpose of determining whether to grant an exemption from certain legislative requirements to allow your application for permanent residence to be processed from within Canada. On 18 May 2021, a representative of the Minister of Immigration, Refugees and Citizenship Canada (IRCC) reviewed your request and considered all the factors that you cited in your application. We are pleased to inform you that your request for an exemption from these requirements for the purpose of processing this application has been approved.

In addition, you have been granted an exemption from the following requirement of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act:

(blacked out)

You must meet all other requirements of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act and its Regulations, such as medical, security, passport and arrangements for your care and support. As your application is processed, separate decisions will be made about whether you meet these other requirements.
Thank you very much @Katayoon . I appreciate your help
 
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I did point that out. They kept asking me for an example letter because she said they get people coming in with many types of letters. They need to confirm word by word.
You can find exemples on google or facebook.
You can write on fb h&c application approval letters and you will find exemples
 

wello711

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Hi All, Can anyone please send me a copy of his/her AIP on techyguy407@gmail.com? Of course, you can black out all personal info. The reason why I am asking is that I went to Service Ontario to ask if i can get ohip with AIP. She said she needs to look at the letter to say if I get OHIP with that or not. I don't yet have AIP but I want to sort this OHIP thing ahead of time so that there will be no delay in getting healthcare later on. There is a critical illness which needs treatment asap. please help. many thanks..
I did not understand your comment.
You said that your parents need OHIP card, but they don't have AIP.
so you want to get an AIP and put their contact details on the letter? ? i think that's not legal but of course you will find a solution to get a helathcare inssurance for them
 
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Neel_Mistry

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Jul 4, 2013
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I did not understand your comment.
You said that your parents need OHIP card, but they don't have AIP.
so you want to get an AIP and put their contact details on the letter? ? i think that's not legal but of course you will find a solution to get a helathcare inssurance for them
No no no.. you got me wrong. Sorry I probably did not explain correctly. Let me try again.
My parent has a significant medical condition which is at last stage. We are somehow pulling thru with very controlled lifestyle. But, we dont know when he will need the treatment.

so of course we have to wait for AIPand i am waiting for it. But, to make sure that we can get OHIP with AIP, i just went to service ontario to inquire if AIP will be acceptable. They could not understand what that AIP letter will have written inside and if they can accept it (whenever we get it). So the lady asked if I have an example of what that letter looks like. Obviously, i don’t have any example. So, i am out here looking for an example which i can show her.
I went service ontario ahead of time because when/if i get AIP, we want to make sure we can absolutely get ohip instantly at that time.
 
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