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nguyentu2001

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Yup it would be weird to get an interview after the test given I have already submitted an RQ!
It would not be weird, you may get test and interview on the same day regardless of your RQ submission.
 

Spellbound

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Could you please advise me how to obtain the ATIP reports for myself, and word it so that I can get as much information on RQ processing as possible? Thank you!
 

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Yes please , I need to know if it is free under privacy act, and is the paid ATIP different than the free one under privacy act? , is the digital ATIP different than the physical paper one?
Thanks
 

Msafiri

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I sent them my record of employments, my rental address information, my T4 statements and some bank statements. ya you could be right seems like they are pissed of at something and need clarification.

I see
FOSS Clearance : Passed
RCMP Clearance : Passed
CSIS: <left blank>

What would be the judge hearing for? I haven't even written the test.

As for residence

Basic Residence: 1202
Physical Presence: 1125

Has anyone else been called for a interview after sending RQ before the test?
Depending on the type/ profile of the job the documentation may be enough but remember that you can have all the things you mention without being resident in Canada throughout the 1095 days. Its a matrix type approach though i.e. if you have a full time job in a type of profession that requires your daily attendance for a major portion of the week (e.g 40 hrs) and your wages reflect a realistic figure matching filed taxes then you meet the burden of proof much easier than someone who works at a family friend's small deli with cash (read under the table) payments, no pay stubs, nil or minimal taxes (read income close to welfare levels). Your moving around seems to have been a major flag.

It may be wise to get provincial billing records to add an aspect of 'physical presence' proof. Note that inconsistency with the info you provided even if it does not impact on the 1095 days throws the issue of credibility into the equation. If you can say fudge a few days how does CIC know you haven't done the same for many more days?

Note that a Citizenship Judge always has the final say in approving all citizenship applicants. However he CJ doesn't actually go through each applicants file in detail else processing times would be 5+years. The majority of applicants are processed by the CJ under a paper review without an in person hearing. This is where the Citizenship Officer (CO) recommends the CJ approve your case and the CJ effectively rubber stamps the COs recommendation. Thereafter you get the oath ceremony unless you mess up by say committing a crime.

This is why you should consider yourself as an RQ recipient lucky to have been issued a ''pre-test' RQ not at 'at test' RQ or even worse a 'post test' RQ. A pre test RQ is the best opportunity to clear any issues early on especially for those applying for citizenship almost on their way to the airport/ leaving the country as it reduces the risk of breaching the PR residency obligation. Depending on how the interview goes either before or after your test then the CO will either recommend the CJ approve your case or not approve your case and schedule you for a full hearing. The number of CJs is outwith the number of applicants waiting for a hearing - some major geographical areas have just the 1 CJ so if you are in such an area it may take 2 years to see the CJ - remember they go on vacation, get sick, retire etc!

Your mission is to convince the CO at the interview of your residence to avoid the full hearing!
 

QAI

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Msafiri said:
Depending on the type/ profile of the job the documentation may be enough but remember that you can have all the things you mention without being resident in Canada throughout the 1095 days. Its a matrix type approach though i.e. if you have a full time job in a type of profession that requires your daily attendance for a major portion of the week (e.g 40 hrs) and your wages reflect a realistic figure matching filed taxes then you meet the burden of proof much easier than someone who works at a family friend's small deli with cash (read under the table) payments, no pay stubs, nil or minimal taxes (read income close to welfare levels). Your moving around seems to have been a major flag.

It may be wise to get provincial billing records to add an aspect of 'physical presence' proof. Note that inconsistency with the info you provided even if it does not impact on the 1095 days throws the issue of credibility into the equation. If you can say fudge a few days how does CIC know you haven't done the same for many more days?

Note that a Citizenship Judge always has the final say in approving all citizenship applicants. However he CJ doesn't actually go through each applicants file in detail else processing times would be 5+years. The majority of applicants are processed by the CJ under a paper review without an in person hearing. This is where the Citizenship Officer (CO) recommends the CJ approve your case and the CJ effectively rubber stamps the COs recommendation. Thereafter you get the oath ceremony unless you mess up by say committing a crime.

This is why you should consider yourself as an RQ recipient lucky to have been issued a ''pre-test' RQ not at 'at test' RQ or even worse a 'post test' RQ. A pre test RQ is the best opportunity to clear any issues early on especially for those applying for citizenship almost on their way to the airport/ leaving the country as it reduces the risk of breaching the PR residency obligation. Depending on how the interview goes either before or after your test then the CO will either recommend the CJ approve your case or not approve your case and schedule you for a full hearing. The number of CJs is outwith the number of applicants waiting for a hearing - some major geographical areas have just the 1 CJ so if you are in such an area it may take 2 years to see the CJ - remember they go on vacation, get sick, retire etc!

Your mission is to convince the CO at the interview of your residence to avoid the full hearing!
I did move around fair bit but only in one city in Manitoba. so i dunno if that is a big eyebrow raiser. agreed I definitely do not want a CJ interview! I could bring more documentation with me at the interview like the provincial billing record. I never provided them with health records either because those would have taken too long in my case to acquire. Also is there any benefit in taking the interview before or after the test should there be a choice?
 

jma

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I'm kind of newbee here,so can someone clarify me if i need tha ATIP before I submit my citizenship application? and if yes what do i need to request?say like my immigartion notes before i bcme permenant resident .
secondly, what's RQ here means?
thanks in advance
 

nguyentu2001

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I'm kind of newbee here,so can someone clarify me if i need tha ATIP before I submit my citizenship application? and if yes what do i need to request?say like my immigartion notes before i bcme permenant resident .
secondly, what's RQ here means?
thanks in advance
No you don't submit ATIP when applying citizenship
RQ means residence questionnaire
 

jma

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thanks nguyentu2001.
I'm wondering what's in ATIP?
like if i wanna know my immigration file notes when i applied my PR back then Can i get it ?and if yes
will those notes relevent in my citizen application?
 

nguyentu2001

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thanks nguyentu2001.
I'm wondering what's in ATIP?
like if i wanna know my immigration file notes when i applied my PR back then Can i get it ?and if yes
will those notes relevent in my citizen application?
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No it is not relevant at all. You would just create more confusion.