Yes you shud be good. If possible add a letter from colleague stating your job as per reference letter.Now I have a letter stating that the company is not in a position to grant a letter for an existing employee, hope this fits
Yes you shud be good. If possible add a letter from colleague stating your job as per reference letter.Now I have a letter stating that the company is not in a position to grant a letter for an existing employee, hope this fits
They will know in time because IRCC verifies the letter directly with them.That was the first thing I tried . Unfortunately looking at the format HR immediately recognised it as a letter for PR purposes. Since it's a large organisation they are very aware of all these requests. Plus I don't know if I'll get into trouble by lying about the real objective, what if they were to find out later that I misused the letter (I.e. using it for PR and not for studies)![]()
WRONGBro. If you cant get a letter from employer, just create one self declaration with all the required info.
like you duties, sal, doj designations held etc.
You dont have to get letter from colleague or manager.
If you cant get a reference letter from Your company on a letter head with stamp then any other letter you provide is just an alternative letter to support your claim.
So dont worry about all this. Get an affidavit with all info. and provide supporting docs, like sal slips, appraisal letters, joining letter and any other doc that speaks about your employemnt or your work activities.
Good luck.
No they are not equal. A letter from your manager or colleague is not equal to a letter from you however you want to sign it. In fact, a letter from you bears no value to the application.no negative impact.
No ref letter on letter head
Then Letter from colleague or Letter from manager or affidavit-self declaration = all are equal.
I provided same, only self declaration, and my friend as well.
I provided documentation I used for my H1B in my company.
My didnt provided only offer letter, appriasal letter and sal slips.
It works, if you are not from IT background then try to provide more documentation to support your duties.
No it will not work with a self signed letter.any update buddy? did it work with self signed letter?
and did you submit payslips etc. or only that self signed letter?
Did your application or anyone you know get rejectedNo it will not work with a self signed letter.
There are many public cases, including for example:Did your application or anyone you know get rejected
The judge agreed with the officer in this case of course. The applicant didn't even get AOR.[4] Along with his application, the Applicant submitted a Schedule 3 listing duties he performed during his work experience:
a. Reconciling and maintaining balance sheet accounts;
b. Auditing data sheets of raw material used to manufacture oil into finished product;
c. Preparing monthly payroll and daily wage reports;
d. Maintaining and following up on maintenance contracts with clients;
e. Handling accounts receivable;
f. Preparing collection analysis reports;
g. Handling cash flow and bank reconciliations;
h. Supervising annual stock audits.
[5] The Applicant also submitted letters from his previous employers: Kuwait National Lube Oil Co., Al-Sundus Gen. Trading & Cont. Est., Kuwait Oxygen & Acetylene Company, and the United Fisheries of Kuwait. These letters all spoke highly of the Applicant and confirmed his employment, but none of them discussed the duties that he performed as an employee.
[6] After receiving the 16 July 2010 letter, the Applicant heard nothing until he received a letter dated 16 March 2012 informing him that his application was not eligible for further processing.
You are stating cases that are from before the EE program began. Your advise of 'it just doesn't work' is as good as any of us telling that it does work. Only difference is we are talking from personal experiences while you are quoting stuff from the internet.There are many public cases, including for example:
Elisha v. Canada 2012 FC 520
Chadha v. Canada 2013 FC 105
To quote from the decision for Chadha:
The judge agreed with the officer in this case of course. The applicant didn't even get AOR.
This represents the best possible case scenario for what you would advice to an applicant who cannot get proper reference letter from employer or colleagues (i.e. get all letters, pay slips ..etc and then write your own duties and responsibilites). It just doesn't work.
Self declaration does not work, at least from this person's GCMS notes we can see case officer did not acknowledge self declaration which was his primary NOC and awarded him 0 fsw points. His application is pending for quite few months and does not look good from GCMS notes. Please read the post-You are stating cases that are from before the EE program began. Your advise of 'it just doesn't work' is as good as any of us telling that it does work. Only difference is we are talking from personal experiences while you are quoting stuff from the internet.
If you read my previous responses I have categorically mentioned the steps I took for my application while clearly stating that it's my personal experience and it's variable depending on VO, country, stream etc. All of us are here to discuss and share our experiences so others can benefit from it. That doesn't mean everyone will do exactly as someone on the forum is telling them to do. In case someone is having troubles with documentation, he is only looking at this forum for alternative solutions. That does not mean he necessarily has to abide by it.
If you read the first two responses to this post that I had put up, even those people told me it absolutely wouldn't work. You have no idea how anxious and desperate that made me. Someone advised getting the letter saying it's for education. Imagine if I had been naive to take that advise. I didn't.
With you telling that it does not work, it puts the person into a dilemma of submitting nothing than atleast submitting something where he doesn't have a choice. If you tell that the work ref letter is absolutely mandatory, someone out of desperation may try to fake it.
If you don't have a solution to provide, atleast don't discourage or respond negatively especially where maybe is an option. Thank you.
Hello,There are many public cases, including for example:
Elisha v. Canada 2012 FC 520
Chadha v. Canada 2013 FC 105
To quote from the decision for Chadha:
The judge agreed with the officer in this case of course. The applicant didn't even get AOR.
This represents the best possible case scenario for what you would advice to an applicant who cannot get proper reference letter from employer or colleagues (i.e. get all letters, pay slips ..etc and then write your own duties and responsibilites). It just doesn't work.
What is your NOC?Hello,
Thanks for the post!
I got a reference letter but without job responsibilities. I am going to attach the corespondence with HR that as per the company policy they do not provide job responsibilities for the former employer. I am going to support my application with annual performance review forms which indicated my job reponsibilities with the signatures of HR and Manager on company letter head. Do you think this will work for me?? Please be noted that I need the points of this work experience.
Looking forward to hearing your advice,
Thank you
Express Entry or not it doesn't make a difference. The rules did not change because they introduced Express Entry and you still have the same rules however you want to apply to Canada. The rulings I cited do have significance because they are decisions taken directly from the Federal court in Canada regarding cases without proper reference letters. It's not "stuff from the internet".You are stating cases that are from before the EE program began. Your advise of 'it just doesn't work' is as good as any of us telling that it does work. Only difference is we are talking from personal experiences while you are quoting stuff from the internet.
I don't know what your profile is or what class you belong to or what your work background is to say why your case was approved. But if there is one thing I can tell you that it's not variable and does not have anything to do with which country, visa office, stream ..etc.If you read my previous responses I have categorically mentioned the steps I took for my application while clearly stating that it's my personal experience and it's variable depending on VO, country, stream etc. All of us are here to discuss and share our experiences so others can benefit from it. That doesn't mean everyone will do exactly as someone on the forum is telling them to do. In case someone is having troubles with documentation, he is only looking at this forum for alternative solutions. That does not mean he necessarily has to abide by it.
My answer remains the same. It is the answer accepted by the majority of members on this forum and is backed by precedent as shown in case law and member posts. It is also the answer that follows pure common sense as you can't expect people to try to get the letter from employers and colleagues and work hard to get this if they can simply just self declare it. I am sorry that it makes you feel anxious but my role is to only give you an honest prediction. Also, there is no need to fake or doctor a letter as there are many ways by which a person can prove his work experience, unless if they didn't have the experience to begin with.If you read the first two responses to this post that I had put up, even those people told me it absolutely wouldn't work. You have no idea how anxious and desperate that made me. Someone advised getting the letter saying it's for education. Imagine if I had been naive to take that advise. I didn't.