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emamabd said:
Its hard for those who never worked in an IT Operations environment to understand what it means when you have an urgent project that needs to be staffed immediately otherwise it would impact the company severely..i.e. they could face penalties/business loss/customer dissatisfaction...etc...at that time a company's priorities would differ and the focus would narrow down to 1 concern - which is the technical skill.
So they hire someone in India who has not even landed in Canada?

Sorry. I do not buy it.... a very weak argument.
 

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nthompson said:
Who knows if its a small company or a large company? Maybe if it is a small company and he disclosed the companies information an someone from here contacted them and said "Hey I heard your recruiting immigrants as you have just hired someone from India" That could have a big impact on his future employment for disclosing information publicly.

Happy Hunting :p
Or maybe they could call and say "I heard you guys are hiring, how would you feel about hiring me? and these are my qualifications and experience" You need to stop assuming things.

Either ways your statements goes to show they are doing something wrong. This has unfair hiring practice written all over it. So much for well reputed company... :p

I would caution new immigrants from OP such as these since they are not just elusive and evasive but also refrain from giving out complete information about their experience when it comes to seeking jobs and getting hired. Clearly not very professional nor helpful information to anyone.
 

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I'm not sure if your aware of few companies such as Rogers, they have cut ties with outsourcing their IT department to India and bringing it in house.
Now you know one of the reasons why Rogers has such a high operating cost consistently for the last 4 years. And this trickles down to higher cost of services to customers

Please refer to the following links and note the year by year increase of operating costs

page 93
https://www.rogers.com/cms/investors/pdf/annual-reports/2013_Annual-Report.pdf

page 83
https://www.rogers.com/cms/investor_relations/annual_html/2011/images/Rogers_Communications-AR2011.pdf

2010 2011 2012 2013
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$7571 $7787 $7729 $7797
 

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newtone said:
Or maybe they could call and say "I heard you guys are hiring, how would you feel about hiring me? and these are my qualifications and experience" You need to stop assuming things.

Either ways your statements goes to show they are doing something wrong. This has unfair hiring practice written all over it. So much for well reputed company... :p

I would caution new immigrants from OP such as these since they are not just elusive and evasive but also refrain from giving out complete information about their experience when it comes to seeking jobs and getting hired. Clearly not very professional nor helpful information to anyone.
I guess everyone has their reasons. Maybe he does not feel comfortable sharing that kind of information on here or you could speak to him via PMs if your not convinced.
newtone said:
Now you know one of the reasons why Rogers has such a high operating cost consistently for the last 4 years. And this trickles down to higher cost of services to customers

Please refer to the following links and note the year by year increase of operating costs

page 93
https://www.rogers.com/cms/investors/pdf/annual-reports/2013_Annual-Report.pdf

page 83
https://www.rogers.com/cms/investor_relations/annual_html/2011/images/Rogers_Communications-AR2011.pdf

2010 2011 2012 2013
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$7571 $7787 $7729 $7797
Thats quite a increase there :eek: big jump from 2010-2011
 

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mrbeachman said:
So they hire someone in India who has not even landed in Canada?

Sorry. I do not buy it.... a very weak argument.
They already did, if you followed the OP's posts with an unbiased mindset.

Maybe you should suggest to the forum admin to mandate that every new immigrant (who claims that he got employed) should post a selfie while in the workplace so that you believe him ;).
 

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Lol emamabd, that was funny. +1

Still, room for doubt exists. One can work as cleaner at parliament in Ottawa. He could wait until everybody is gone, get to MP's seat and take a selfie.
 

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Katayoon said:
Lol emamabd, that was funny. +1

Still, room for doubt exists. One can work as cleaner at parliament in Ottawa. He could wait until everybody is gone, get to MP's seat and take a selfie.
agree :), but its still one step ahead, that would at least shift the focus of the discussion to "which position" he got...while now we are stuck at a very early stage ..i.e. "whether the gentleman actually got employed or not".
 

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emamabd said:
Just to let you know, i have a friend who got an IT job only "2 weeks" after stepping in Canadian soil for the very first time.
This is really possible if badly needed by the company. I got my job 2 months after I landed, and I am on spouse open work permit. I took a break for a month to get settled. On my second month, I started sending out my CV and more or less a month after that, I got hired.

So to everyone still looking for work, do not be disheartened. Every person has his own circumstance :)
 

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iamelle said:
This is really possible if badly needed by the company. I got my job 2 months after I landed, and I am on spouse open work permit. I took a break for a month to get settled. On my second month, I started sending out my CV and more or less a month after that, I got hired.

So to everyone still looking for work, do not be disheartened. Every person has his own circumstance :)
 

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Hello all,
Aside from the arguments and the two point of views that can be biased to extremes of making the matter as impossible as going to the moon in ford 1999 car or easy as taking a piece of cake from a 2 years old boy , let me share my opinion with you that is based on several stories of people I know wo immigrated to Canada.

The answer in short, it totally depends, not all cases are alike by all means.

Let me elaborate a little bit.

Let's say you are a Java developer, you know core Java and some J2EE like hibernate and so, can you get an offer before landing? The idea here is that there are probably thousands of people like you who are already in Canada and are actively looking for a job as a Java developer, why would any employer risk hiring someone over the seas and wait for him till he comes to Canada and settle down? He already has tens of applicants who have equivalent experience as you have. Unless you have something very unique and distinguishing in your CV (like working with SUN team who developed Java), then your chances are almost impossible.

This also goes for other common titles like DB admin, Systems admin and so on.

On the other hand, if a company is working on something very specific, like they are starting a new Enterprise bus on Tibco business works and in need of some Tibco developers. There are not much out there, and if you have worked on some projects in Tibco for big companies and for example Tibco certified developer, then yes, you are very likely to be worth waiting for and have a job offer before you reach Canada. Of course that is if you somehow found a way to get your CV to reach the right people and not be missed out among the CVs of hundreds of applicants that 90% of them didn't even read the required qualifications of the job but just applied and made it a harder for relevant people to be seen.

One last thing, in any case, it GOD's will that will be and he can be giving to whoever he wants whenever he wants wherever he wants.