Got my GCMS notes, Seniors please help!

[Andre_Smol]

I didn't even think about this question before I came to Canada. As many of my fellows are applying for PhDs with only Bachelor's degree.
But my case was different, I applied for Master's degree first, and when I came to Canada, My supervisor and myself want to me to transfer from Master's program to PhD program.

I guess for Science students, that's very normal. I do know some engineer program require Master's degree.

I looked into it a bit and Even though it doesnt seem to be very common, yes, you can start off in. Masters program and then transfer over to the PhD program, without finishing your Masters first.

Based on what you wrote that seems to be exactly your experience.

So I would definit ely suggest you include all transcripts like MZASAM mentioned above.

Does it say honorary anywhere on your degree, as it is curious that the IRCC officer would have assumed it wasnt a proper PhD degree?

 

[goldon]

I don't know about Canadian education but straight PhDs aren't a rarity. Since it's a Canadian degree my thinking is the degree itself and that letter from his supervisor may help. I don't know the equivalent of a transcript at the PhD level but if you could obtain that I would add that as well. If you have a lettter from the institution that indicates you obtained the PhD that might help.

You've been told by seniors above on your wife so just action that

Thanks for your advise!

When I just graduate (1.5 year ago), the faculty of graduate studies and research of my university gave me a letter of completion for me to apply for PGWP. Can I still use that as a proof? As the status of me being granted PhD degree won't change (generally)

 

[goldon]

In CSE you should mention all details related to your and your wife education and WES assessments.

This may help.

I am submitting all the Bachelors, Master Degree, PhD, Original and Transcripts copies. (The same set of documents for your wife for Bachelor, Master degree

WES assessment for all the following degrees for you and your wife

Copies from Originals

Bachelors Degree

1. Final Bachelor Degree Certificate
2. Provisional Bachelor Degree Certificate
3. Consolidated Statement of Marks
4. Year wise statement of marks

Masters Degree

1. Final Masters Degree Certificate
2. Provisional Masters Degree Certificate
3. Consolidated Statement of Marks
4. Year wise statement of marks

PhD

1. PhD Degree Certificate
2. Provisional Certificate
3. Consolidated Statement of Marks
4. Year wise statement of marks or any documents related to PhD and a letter from your guide under whom you did PhD.




Copies from Transcripts

Bachelor Degree

1. Final Bachelor Degree Certificate
2. Provisional Bachelor Degree Certificate
3. Consolidated Statement of Marks
4. Year wise statement of marks

Masters Degree

1. Final Masters Degree Certificate
2. Provisional Masters Degree Certificate
3. Consolidated Statement of Marks
4. Year wise statement of marks


Should any questions arise about any information, document, I would be pleased do to provide any further information, clarifications.

Thanks for your advise! You guys really helped me out!

 

[goldon]

You must submit an ECA for all levels of completed foreign education you want us to consider. It is up to you to decide which credentials to have assessed by a designated organization.

Depending on your case, you may want to have both your secondary and post-secondary credentials assessed, and not just your highest completed foreign credential.

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/immigrate/skilled/eca-conversion.asp

Are you sure about this?
Someone else mentioned only ECA for highest level post sec.
I know it would be good to provide. That's why I provide my bachelor's degree's ECA.
It would be long process to get ECA. That's why I need to make sure it is necessary.

 

[goldon]

I looked into it a bit and Even though it doesnt seem to be very common, yes, you can start off in. Masters program and then transfer over to the PhD program, without finishing your Masters first.

Based on what you wrote that seems to be exactly your experience.

So I would definit ely suggest you include all transcripts like MZASAM mentioned above.

Does it say honorary anywhere on your degree, as it is curious that the IRCC officer would have assumed it wasnt a proper PhD degree?

No, it doesn't have any thing related to honorary degree on my certificate. I don't know why they assume it is honorary award.

 

[Nebs]

Thanks for your advise!

When I just graduate (1.5 year ago), the faculty of graduate studies and research of my university gave me a letter of completion for me to apply for PGWP. Can I still use that as a proof? As the status of me being granted PhD degree won't change (generally)

I think you should get a transcript for your PhD from your university, include your PhD certificate and attach to your CSE. I only had my PhD degree evaluated by wes with no mention of my Bsc or MSC degrees and I had no problem at all. I believe that you PhD transcript and certificate shpuld suffice for your educational qualification.
Good luck

 

[goldon]

I think you should get a transcript for your PhD from your university, include your PhD certificate and attach to your CSE. I only had my PhD degree evaluated by wes with no mention of my Bsc or MSC degrees and I had no problem at all. I believe that you PhD transcript and certificate shpuld suffice for your educational qualification.
Good luck

That's weird because I upload my PhD transcript when submit my application. Anyway, this time I will provide my supervisor's letter and the institution's letter

 

[popoxee]

Similar to my issue... My issue was my work experience was disqualified by them and marked as ineligible. I submitted a new work reference letter and still waiting for response

You probably should submit another evidence of your education asap.

 

[goldon]

Similar to my issue... My issue was my work experience was disqualified by them and marked as ineligible. I submitted a new work reference letter and still waiting for response

You probably should submit another evidence of your education asap.

Can you share your timeline please?
From the note, it was Feb 13. Is this a little late now? I do get some Ghost email early this month. Don't know what's that regarding.

 

[MZASAM]

Friends

Extraordinary circumstance like Goldon should be addressed with great attention. The concerned officer is confused about his qualifications, WES

Better he provides all Bachelor, Master, Phd copies of original and the copies of transcripts as I stated earlier. (Also for his wife)

What's the harm in providing all the above instead of providing only Phd?

 

[Andre_Smol]

Friends

Extraordinary circumstance like Goldon should be addressed with great attention. The concerned officer is confused about his qualifications, WES

Better he provides all Bachelor, Master, Phd copies of original and the copies of transcripts as I stated earlier. (Also for his wife)

What's the harm in providing all the above instead of providing only Phd?

Fully agreed.

Since the GCMS notes clearly point towards a refusal of the application, the more evidence he can provide along with a CSE the better.

Once they consider a refusal, it is an uphill battle anyway so no need to take any risks at this point.

 

[goldon]

Friends

Extraordinary circumstance like Goldon should be addressed with great attention. The concerned officer is confused about his qualifications, WES

Better he provides all Bachelor, Master, Phd copies of original and the copies of transcripts as I stated earlier. (Also for his wife)

What's the harm in providing all the above instead of providing only Phd?

I also agree with you.

That's why I provided my Bachelor's ECA in my application, as well as my PhD degree and transcript. But it looks like they got confused somehow and didn't recognize my PhD degree.

As you suggested. I will provide everything for my education, as well as for my wife.

Thanks for your help!

 

[mamaJM]

I also agree with you.

That's why I provided my Bachelor's ECA in my application, as well as my PhD degree and transcript. But it looks like they got confused somehow and didn't recognize my PhD degree.

As you suggested. I will provide everything for my education, as well as for my wife.

Thanks for your help!

If your ECA indicated its honorary, why didn't you sort it out with them before you used it. It appears the ECA guys got confused, since you submitted only bachelors and then PhD, no masters in between. If your diploma or transcript aren't saying honorary, why would they think it is.
I know some schools even in the US that lets into enter a phd program with your bachelors, you will just have extra 2 years on top of the regular phd years.
I think you need to talk to your supervisor if truly your degree was honorary, if it was then the ECA is correct. If not, you will need solid evidence from your university that it's a regular degree and not honorary. That would be faster to collect and submit than waiting for the ECA to get it sorted. You should also inform the ECA guys if your school confirms its not

Good luck!

 

[goldon]

If your ECA indicated its honorary, why didn't you sort it out with them before you used it. It appears the ECA guys got confused, since you submitted only bachelors and then PhD, no masters in between. If your diploma or transcript aren't saying honorary, why would they think it is.
I know some schools even in the US that lets into enter a phd program with your bachelors, you will just have extra 2 years on top of the regular phd years.
I think you need to talk to your supervisor if truly your degree was honorary, if it was then the ECA is correct. If not, you will need solid evidence from your university that it's a regular degree and not honorary. That would be faster to collect and submit than waiting for the ECA to get it sorted. You should also inform the ECA guys if your school confirms its not

Good luck!

Thanks!
My ECA for bachelor degree doesn't mention anything about honorary. My PhD degree certificate didn't show anything related. I will ask my supervisor to write a letter to explain.

 

[mamaJM]

Thanks!
My ECA for bachelor degree doesn't mention anything about honorary. My PhD degree certificate didn't show anything related. I will ask my supervisor to write a letter to explain.

Ok, I am not sure if I am mixing up things. But I thought the notes indicated that you did ECA for your Phd and bachelors, bachelors was ok as bachelors but phd indicated its honorary? Is that the case?
If you didn't do ECA for your phd, and your degree/transcript doesn't indicate that, perhaps the officer is confused as how you have a bsc and then a phd? If you did do ECA for your phd, you need to talk to the ECA guys as to why they are evaluating it as honorary?